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[mishax1]

BKEX exchange trades OMNI and USDT and can easily add MAID to trading, if anyone wants to reach out to them, that would be great.

https://www.bkex.com/coinapply/intro


So does Bitfinex.

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[davidpbrown]

An exchange that wants to be credible, will offer the better tokens on their own initiative. It's in their interest. Too many scams wanting money up front to sponsor their learning the abcs.

[realdantreccia]

The problem with price lies within the protocol and all of its spawned children. Maybe a "bug" is the best way to put it from the earliest of all these clones from Bitcoin Block 0/1 or the misunderstood unit of account BTC and its (purposely) miscalculated divisible:non-divisible spawn. The key is INJECTION in the end. What's locked to some may be what is freely tradeable within a single wallet to another (a company maybe). Either way it's not MAID to me just because most exchanges see it that way. As the original protocol MasterCoin was renamed later to Omni Protocol or "OmniLayer" whatever, a ticker is just a ticker. And a pre-sale on one network doesn't mean that the eventual swap coin and its test network makes the token from the pre-sale part of that test network either. In fact if it was done on the Bitcoin blockchain mainnet then yes, its part of that - but no guarantees that the MasterCoin protocol, tweaked, renamed since can even recognize the total amount of Property 31 if its tokens have become unreadable on the blocks they've traveled to since/the addresses they've become a part of/the block explorers presenting conflicting information against one another/extensions and further protocols interfering with the Bitcoin network/original MasterCoin protocol/and so on and so on. For me I keep it simple. Read the MasterCoin protocol from its first draft to its comprehensive spec before the sale on the "Exodus Address" and realize there were no physical "tokens" here called MasterCoins - but that there would be protcol nodes/software that could scan the Bitcoin blocks and realize what accounts were credited as buying from the Exodus Address and then they could use the software on their client side to see their balance and other Smart Properties. Perhaps its BTC units that are dumb tokens and they mess everything up. Omniwallet.org shows BTC on production net as Property ID 0, whereas omniexplorer.info doesn't show it on Production. We need to think of the abstraction here as planned as well as not universally readable or re-writable. What's written is written. Exodus began this protocol and its changed its name since whoopie - that's not what I am talking about. Namecoin could be at the heart of fixing this for the block chain just like changing a DNS domain address with hot links still up breaks things on web documents/API - if you change the name back you can keep those links the same and the document may be correctly cited or make sense to a human who is reading it later on. But when it comes to automated processes and nodes and CONSENSUS then the issue comes with a root/core bug type problem to allow "Chaos" (controlled chaos btw) and further extensions or "layers" that interfere and conflict with the base protocol by exploiting what devs already know.

In the end focus on learning about why MasterCoin became "The Second Bitcoin Whitepaper" as its bitcointalk.org forum member has in his signature (you can search for it) - but here is a site he later made to help rewind your memory.

https://sites.google.com/site/2ndbtcwpaper/home?authuser=0

And also remember - its not MAID or even "Coinmarketcap" information that matters. It's whatever backup system is logging all these values whether they be satoshi/bits/BTC/tokens - the name doesn't matter so long as there is a universal unit of account in the ledger accounting for every gap and purposeful f-up in code that makes what we see as price still just another incorrect valuation for the entire network envisioned in the end. You could say we are still in the pre-launch phase for the true network, or we are just somewhere in the middle. But stick with the raw data and forget about the current price - what matters in the end is the data you don't see but you realize where the gaps are because you can view things from the MasterCoin/OmniLayer/Omni(protocol) side or the Bitcoin transaction/BTC transaction unit side (Blockchain.com etc). It's all there.

If anyone real is here and this isn't just all MMRPG type dev talk then I hope I can make it blunt and help you figure it out.

Create your wallet at omniwallet.org > backup yadda yadda. Buy "MAID" on altilly.com (its easy and it once had DVC/LTC DVC/ETH DVC/USDT DVC/BTC and I think one more trading pair but it was bought since then and delisted my projects units of account for devcoins "DVC"). It seems steep to buy "MAID" (which altilly classifies on its /asset/ directory with all MaidSafeCoin specs they want to share as an Omni Token asset) after paying fees in BTC to get an account funded there (or USDT or ETH both the Ethereum tokens so network fees steep as well) and then pay 15.00000000 "MAID" when withdrawing to your omniwallet.org created Bitcoin address. But do it. You may double your withdrawal if you're lucky when you view it on the omniwallet.org side - and then you may realize why the normal swap sites are limiting your USD to $1000 to trade for "MAID" like simpleswap dot io or have delisted like Changelly, or have raised trading fees on your normal "reliable" exchange where you get MAID like Bittrex has.

You're best off doing the route I just explained and hodling. Sure it takes more conviction and more care to handle all the keys and registrations but if you wanna do it right think about the entire Bitcoin network being in pre-launch/beta testing and an asset swap as a 1:1 or 2:1 deal relative to a price in an asset that is ever appreciating rather than fiat via BTC units. You'll see. We all will see. Good luck.

Front end/Back door/Back end/Front door/Base layer/Top Level/Block height/Forward blocks. It doesn't matter, they all have to reach consensus at some time. You still have opportunity but units of this property are clearly limited. Java is incredible. Also if you look at the start of Coinmarketcap on bitcointalk.org (your "n00bs" forum) you would know that the site was formed by community requests but relied on third party block explorers for critical accounting info and would pull the coin/asset off its live site immediately if the block explorer went offline. They also didn't allow "Ripple" (assuming v1) to have a listed presence on their marketcapitalizations because community people were pissed about the figuring of $ and total circulating ripples vs Bitcoin (100% premined/generated Ripples vs. Bitcoins being slowly mined). You do the math.

You should all just run a node and play with the software. It'll help you learn. then make your own investment.

[Gash]

An exchange that wants to be credible, will offer the better tokens on their own initiative. It's in their interest. Too many scams wanting money up front to sponsor their learning the abcs.

This is virtually the same as ripple-cripple cartel. They got the company which sells SAFE token to fund its operations. Essentially what garlington had done before it backfired on him. Its a no surprise that these guys are rushing to drum up all sorts of dodgy enterprises amid bitcoin price surge. Once the price has decoupled from 20-25K territory there will be a crop of ICO and rookery out there. The mission like always is to trap noobs.

[davidpbrown]

Do not use: Altilly Exchange! # hacked

"The Altilly Exchange platform has been attacked via unauthorised access and user funds have been stolen."
https://altilly.com/

"The servers the Altilly Exchange platform utilised were provided by an independent hosting provider."

Copy-paste amateurs think using third party hosting is secure. Beware noobs!

[davidpbrown]

Happy New Year .. 2020 is behind us now.. hoping for 2021 to be better.

Safe Network has been progressing well regardless with a move out of office that was timely.

https://safenetforum.org/t/happy-new-year-when-it-comes/33294

A great wee team that really has pulled together, not always easy, of course, debates and questions, but never personal and never (extremely rarely) in private. The team’s open and speaks in the open, and that is what holds it all together.

So here we are 2021, we can see the logic, it makes sense. We can understand how the beast works and now want to give it a real run.

Latest update at https://safenetforum.org/t/testnet-changelog-december-24th-2020/33243

"next official update is expected to be on Thursday, 7th January 2021."
https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates/19

[adamvp]

Did anyone here have their MAID tokens on OpenLedger and have them locked up?

I'm still trying to regain access to them, but OpenLedger seems to have closed shop (temporarily?) and gone away.

I have some assets stucked in OpenLedger and few weeks ago I got such mail:

Hello previous OL DEX OPEN asset holder,

On behalf of OpenLedger ApS, I would like to first say how sorry I am for the situation, it is however the way it is and it is my aim to solve this matter soonest possible to the satisfaction of all parties involved.

First we would like to confirm your email and contact details have been received, your account has been checked and OPEN assets amount has been entered into our files for further use in future.

We are able to confirm that the amount listed as OPEN assets is expected to be refunded in full as the respective value on external blockchains. Time for this settlement is expected to take place within the next 6-12 months from the time of handing in the necessary information, any exact time we are not able to disclose at least for the time being.

In order to settle the amount in question we will need you to be ready to pass KYC, more details about this process will be told upon return e-mail confirming the first step in the process.

Very important! make sure to have access to your account with the respective assets and create a wallet backup.

1) Very important!

 

If you have registered initially using account and password or used a bin file with password, go directly to bitshares wallet (https://wallet.bitshares.org/) and test logging into the wallet using your credentials account name and password or bin file and password.

 

2) Send 1 BTS to confirm ownership but also to acknowledge to have read this e-mail!

 

Already now (or after reading this email) send then 1 BTS to BitShares network account ccedkbts from your own BitShares wallet account and write your contact email (preferably the current one) in the memo field. This action will be considered as pre-confirmation of refunding as well as used later as proof of your current access to funds. It is therefore suggested you send the 1 BTS from the account after you have finalized procedure in above point 1)

 

Together with the next email including KYC details we will send you more details of procedure and conditions of refunding.


Yours sincerely

 

Ronny Boesing

OpenLedger ApS

So I think you have to follow mentioned steps (if it is not already too late)..

[davidpbrown]

So I think you have to

Everything about that stinks of a scam.
KYC by email. Openledger itself. BisShares devs always were cowboyz - jumping from one project to the next.
Do not buy third party wrapped coins. OpenLedger was never relative to this project.
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More about Safe Network at https://safenetwork.tech/

If you want to support this project, you have good reason to.. but get it right..

MAID is the current cryptocurrency for this project https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/maidsafecoin/

[davidpbrown]

from https://safenetforum.org/t/bamboogarden-fund-now-accepting-first-batch-of-proposals/34177
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BambooGarden Fund Now Accepting First Batch of Proposals

** NOW OPEN FOR APPLICATIONS **

With the BambooGarden Fund committee now in place,
we are excited to invite applications for funding in the following areas only:

    Formal documentation
    We believe the project would benefit hugely from having our algorithms formally documented. Perhaps a technical writer or the like who has experience writing formal algorithms and papers would be able to offer value here. Having these formal documents in place helps onboard developers who are getting involved, while also helping external auditors who we would at some point be asking to check our code for security flaws, bugs, etc.
    Additional CRDT expertise
    Additional consensus expertise
    Additional networking expertise

These initial areas have been identified as a priority by MaidSafe and agreed with the committee. We would like to restrict applications to these specific areas for now to help funnel the applications at a steady rate for the volunteer fund committee members, while also helping us compare and assess applications for the same or similar projects.

We look forward to receiving applications to the fund, however, these must be supplemented by a cohesive and exhaustive plan in order to be seriously considered.

To apply, you can fill out this online form, or if you prefer you can email your plan and application to bgf@maidsafe.net

If you submit via email, please include a summary of your idea and how it helps achieve the fund’s goals, a detailed plan on how you intend to implement this idea, and the expected costs of this proposal that you would like the fund to cover.

We would also love to see short video presentations, maximum 10 minutes, included as part of applications. A video presentation would help the committee evaluate these applications so we encourage them where possible, but they are not mandatory. Applicants may also make these videos widely available on the forum, if they wish, but we understand some may not want their ideas made public.

We anticipate that funds will be paid out for successful applications either on final delivery, or on reaching agreed milestones on the way towards delivery, with evidence required that those milestones have been met.

Each application will be evaluated not only on whether it meets the fund’s purposes, but also on whether it provides value for money.

While we cannot guarantee we will accept every application, we do encourage as many as possible.

For full details on this fund, it’s purposes, and how it is being managed, please see the original BambooGarden Fund announcement post.

We look forward to receiving your applications and working with you to bring the Safe Network closer.

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Latest updates at https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates/19

More about Safe Network at https://safenetwork.tech/

MAID is the current cryptocurrency for this project https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/maidsafecoin/

[arjuna BTC]

Maidsafe just launched Fleming Testnet v5 for safenetworktech
Come join & discover all the latest enhancements here: https://safenetforum.org/t/fleming-testnet-v5-release-offline/34779

[davidpbrown]

David Irvine interviewed on Declare Your Independence, with Ernest Hancock - Radio

Audio: http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/Media-Files/687-0511095701-2021-05-11-Hour-1-3-David-Irvine---Paul-Rosenberg.mp3

Transcription: https://txt.fyi/-/21143/ecd90fd5/

 

[davidpbrown]

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[doseofeth]

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[mishax1]

So I had a verified account on Bittrex, and then this happens.. (they force everyone to redo their verifications again so they disabled withdrawals and canceled all existing open orders)

Where can we trade Maid besides this horrible Bittrex or the scam Hitbtc exchange?

[davidpbrown]

Perhaps query on the forum at https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafecoin-maid-price-trading-topic-part-2/32970

[mishax1]

I don't have an account there.

[davidpbrown]

updated: November 2021
https://primer.safenetwork.org/

 

[broadhurst]

So I had a verified account on Bittrex, and then this happens.. (they force everyone to redo their verifications again so they disabled withdrawals and canceled all existing open orders)

Where can we trade Maid besides this horrible Bittrex or the scam Hitbtc exchange?

Wow, after all these years Maidsafe is still not available at any decent exchange..this is one of the reasons i sold in 2019, I see Maidsafe is languishing at number 330 in the league, it treats its investors with no respect. This project will forever be an experiment and has been left behind because of its arrogance in its quest to create an alternative internet. Thank god for my btc.

[mishax1]

So I had a verified account on Bittrex, and then this happens.. (they force everyone to redo their verifications again so they disabled withdrawals and canceled all existing open orders)

Where can we trade Maid besides this horrible Bittrex or the scam Hitbtc exchange?

My 6y old Bittrex verified account is still restricted by the way, can't withdraw, can't trade.

They don't provide any answers, their legal team does not respond to emails.

Don't leave your Maid on Bittrex, you have been warned.

[davidpbrown]

Wow, after all these years Maidsafe is still not available at any decent exchange..this is one of the reasons i sold in 2019, I see Maidsafe is languishing at number 330 in the league, it treats its investors with no respect. This project will forever be an experiment and has been left behind because of its arrogance in its quest to create an alternative internet. Thank god for my btc.

It is frustrating that exchanges are still playing the short game and fleecing noobs.

Your posts speaks volumes for the ignorance of both exchanges and so many users.. chasing money rather than utility.

You think you're better off holding BTC than supporting one of the few decent projects around?.. pity the fool.

The devs on this project are among the best and the support they command is valued well enough - that they don't pander to those whose only interest in the next pump and dump, only evidences that they are respecting the long term investments. There's always some noob who disagrees and wants insta-gratification - childlike methinks.. and there are so many other copy coins out there to choose if you disagree.

 

Still, thinks for bumping the thread.. I don't know, if this forum is still useful for engaging those on the bleeding edge but the forum is over here for those wanting more of the latest updates -> https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates/19