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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-20-2017/13397

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April 24, 2017, 09:33:49 AM
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Hi Zeeman,

Thanks for all your updates !
Question: If you would have to give an estimation based on your knowledge and experience of the MAIDSAFE project, when do you roughly think the SAFE network will be launched ?

Thanks  Cool

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April 24, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
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Hi Zeeman,

Thanks for all your updates !
Question: If you would have to give an estimation based on your knowledge and experience of the MAIDSAFE project, when do you roughly think the SAFE network will be launched ?

Thanks  Cool

Nobody really knows. Test-Safecoin maybe this year, but full Safecoin and Farming 2018 I guess. It all depends on coming Alpha's. The great news is that (the tests for) Alpha 2 will be very cool. We'll move from a Launcher and proxy-settings and a Demo_app to just 1 browser with Apps. So when MaidSafe launches Alpha 2 it's: "Here's our SAFE Browser, enjoy our network". External devs are getting really excited and try to speed up things:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-20-2017/13397/22

MaidsSafe Asia (or MaidSafe solutions as they are called now) is providing funds for external devs to speed things up:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-asia-app-competitions/13406

The only reason that they are doing this now is because finally the whole API, NodeJS, DOM API and Mutable Data are coming together. In short: devs can finally start to build apps on the Safenetwork. There are ideas for 1 appstore in the browser as well:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-asia-app-competitions/13406/2

I think Alpha 2 is quite important for that reason because from now on SAFE can really start to see it's own ecosystem. Mutable Data allows for wallets and coins as well. This is the short term roadmap:



Shout out to all App Developers: If you like to build web_apps on a fully encrypted system now's the time to jump into SAFE.  

All last dev updates are here:

https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates




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April 25, 2017, 06:50:37 AM
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Can anyone give me some external link where maidsafe coin is explain in "normal" language? ☺


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April 25, 2017, 04:28:57 PM
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Hi Zeeman,

Thanks for all your updates !
Question: If you would have to give an estimation based on your knowledge and experience of the MAIDSAFE project, when do you roughly think the SAFE network will be launched ?

Thanks  Cool

Nobody really knows. Test-Safecoin maybe this year, but full Safecoin and Farming 2018 I guess. It all depends on coming Alpha's. The great news is that (the tests for) Alpha 2 will be very cool. We'll move from a Launcher and proxy-settings and a Demo_app to just 1 browser with Apps. So when MaidSafe launches Alpha 2 it's: "Here's our SAFE Browser, enjoy our network". External devs are getting really excited and try to speed up things:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-20-2017/13397/22

MaidsSafe Asia (or MaidSafe solutions as they are called now) is providing funds for external devs to speed things up:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-asia-app-competitions/13406

The only reason that they are doing this now is because finally the whole API, NodeJS, DOM API and Mutable Data are coming together. In short: devs can finally start to build apps on the Safenetwork. There are ideas for 1 appstore in the browser as well:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-asia-app-competitions/13406/2

I think Alpha 2 is quite important for that reason because from now on SAFE can really start to see it's own ecosystem. Mutable Data allows for wallets and coins as well. This is the short term roadmap:



Shout out to all App Developers: If you like to build web_apps on a fully encrypted system now's the time to jump into SAFE.  

All last dev updates are here:

https://safenetforum.org/c/development/updates



Wow, sounds really good ! Thanks for the explanation  Cool
So basically Alpha 2 can already be considered somewhat of a shadow launch.
Very excited to see/ hear what it will bring !

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April 27, 2017, 01:53:57 PM
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Price goes up as well. Nice   Wink
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April 27, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-27-2017/13468


devs that are interested to locally run the browser and build apps should look here:


https://github.com/wgallo3/MockRoutingPack


This uses "mock routing" which simulates a network. It's a community member effort and gives external devs an early shot at building apps for SAFE. Your app should work on Alpha 2 once it goes live.

Enjoy!@!

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April 27, 2017, 07:41:01 PM
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-27-2017/13468


devs that are interested to locally run the browser and build apps should look here:


https://github.com/wgallo3/MockRoutingPack


This uses "mock routing" which simulates a network. It's a community member effort and gives external devs an early shot at building apps for SAFE. Your app should work on Alpha 2 once it goes live.

Enjoy!@!



Great update. Hopefully Decorum project can soon be able to use this API

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April 28, 2017, 05:09:39 PM
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Looks good but why price is so high? This is still very early stage.

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April 29, 2017, 12:05:28 PM
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Looks good but why price is so high? This is still very early stage.

So you think this is high? Check the price in a few weeks  Tongue.
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April 29, 2017, 03:17:31 PM
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Looks good but why price is so high? This is still very early stage.
The price is still very low my friend

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April 29, 2017, 09:35:02 PM
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The SAFE Network, which bills itself as "the new decentralized internet" (heh), actually promises much of what Richard's idea does, except instead of using the unused computing power from connected smartphones, it does so from PCs.

The SAFE Network's only in alpha testing right now, but it's inching closer towards a public release. And while it's only for Windows/Mac/Linux, the company has plans for mobile in the future. Speaking to TechCrunch last year, Maidsafe founder David Irvine said the vault, which is a core feature, "wouldn't be good enough for people to just run from a mobile phone." Additionally, tapping into a phone's unused processing power would be a major battery suck; it'd need to be plugged into an outlet or connected to a battery pack most of the time to be useful.

Experts predict over 1B market cap before final release of the project.

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May 03, 2017, 02:02:55 PM
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Looks good but why price is so high? This is still very early stage.
The price is still very low my friend
I agree, few months ago some Indian was complaining about MAID not growing, at the time NEM was slightly below. Now even stupid Augur is worth more despite SAFE's huge potential.
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May 03, 2017, 08:56:30 PM
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Whats to stop me from renting a server on say AWS and just offering up that space for resources once farming becomes available?

Clearly I am a nub, this may or may not have already been answered, I'm assuming It has buttttttt I figured I would ask anyway.

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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-march-9-2017/12774

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Our current thinking is that once we have confirmed the stability of the soon to be launched Test 15 (some may have expected 12d), this will become Alpha 2. The Alpha 2 network will supersede all existing networks.


So nearly 2 months later, any guesses on when Alpha 2 will be?
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-march-9-2017/12774

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Our current thinking is that once we have confirmed the stability of the soon to be launched Test 15 (some may have expected 12d), this will become Alpha 2. The Alpha 2 network will supersede all existing networks.


So nearly 2 months later, any guesses on when Alpha 2 will be?


Alpha was about running Vaults from home. We tested it and it worked fine in TEST 16. So actually TEST 16 wasn't any different from what Alpha 2 was supposed to be. Some attacker abused the fact that several features like Safecoin aren't implemented yet, so the network was attacked which caused trouble and data loss:

https://forum.safedev.org/t/spam-prevention/583

Instead of fixing these issues and release Alpha 2 after all the devs decided to currently remove the idea of Vaults from home. This is because external devs are waiting for a long time now to start building Apps. So MaidSafe decided to make Alpha 2 about Mutable Data and APIs for external devs to build Apps:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-13-2017/13288


So half the team is working on implementing Disjoint Groups and updates and Datachains (which prevent spam attacks) while the other half is working on providing APIs with Mutable Data. This will bring the first coin implementations (not safecoin yet) to the network, next to chats, forums, mail and loads more for external devs to build.


And before the "new" Alpha 2 we'll see another testnet in which everyone can test the features. I don't think it will be released tonight but who knows. I see a lot of updates on their github but they want to test for themselves as well.

So it's taking quite some time, the old "Alpha 2" was about to be released, but an attacker couldn't resist to slow down the development process. That's ok though, the new Alpha 2 will be way more cooler as it's providing tools to really start the ecosystem.


New update tonight, will share it here.  

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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-march-9-2017/12774

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Our current thinking is that once we have confirmed the stability of the soon to be launched Test 15 (some may have expected 12d), this will become Alpha 2. The Alpha 2 network will supersede all existing networks.


So nearly 2 months later, any guesses on when Alpha 2 will be?


Alpha was about running Vaults from home. We tested it and it worked fine in TEST 16. So actually TEST 16 wasn't any different from what Alpha 2 was supposed to be. Some attacker abused the fact that several features like Safecoin aren't implemented yet, so the network was attacked which caused trouble and data loss:

https://forum.safedev.org/t/spam-prevention/583

Instead of fixing these issues and release Alpha 2 after all the devs decided to currently remove the idea of Vaults from home. This is because external devs are waiting for a long time now to start building Apps. So MaidSafe decided to make Alpha 2 about Mutable Data and APIs for external devs to build Apps:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-13-2017/13288


So half the team is working on implementing Disjoint Groups and updates and Datachains (which prevent spam attacks) while the other half is working on providing APIs with Mutable Data. This will bring the first coin implementations (not safecoin yet) to the network, next to chats, forums, mail and loads more for external devs to build.


And before the "new" Alpha 2 we'll see another testnet in which everyone can test the features. I don't think it will be released tonight but who knows. I see a lot of updates on their github but they want to test for themselves as well.

So it's taking quite some time, the old "Alpha 2" was about to be released, but an attacker couldn't resist to slow down the development process. That's ok though, the new Alpha 2 will be way more cooler as it's providing tools to really start the ecosystem.


New update tonight, will share it here.  



Thanks. I had looked at some of the dev updates but wasn't clear to me, however I think I was pretty much able to follow your reply...

So hopefully by next week we'll see the last testnet & if that goes ok they will release it as 'Alpha 2' so 2-3 weeks till Alpha 2 ideally.
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-may-4-2017/13527


Great update, devs can now run local network with the SAFE Browser and Authenticator against mock routing. This means they can start to build Apps while MaidSafe keeps working on
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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-may-4-2017/13527


Great update, devs can now run local network with the SAFE Browser and Authenticator against mock routing. This means they can start to build Apps while MaidSafe keeps working on
other layers.



So does this mean we can now "get in" so to speak, or if we missed the first run we still have to wait till Alpha 2? Or am I totally lost?

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https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-may-4-2017/13527


Great update, devs can now run local network with the SAFE Browser and Authenticator against mock routing. This means they can start to build Apps while MaidSafe keeps working on
other layers.



So does this mean we can now "get in" so to speak, or if we missed the first run we still have to wait till Alpha 2? Or am I totally lost?


There used to be a Launcher with Demo_app and and a bunch of proxy-settings to connect to Alpha 1. Same for the testnets.

MaidSafe is moving away from all these different Apps, the idea is to just provide the SAFE Browser which connects you to the network. Web_apps in that browser allow you to create an account etc.

We are now at a level where external devs can build Apps that run in this browser with a local mock_network. So they can test the APIs and build applications to test locally.

The moment MaidSafe releases Alpha 2 it will be all over their twitter, website and forum. That's the moment they say: Here's our official release, it connects you to our SAFE Network. But we are not there yet, external devs are now asked to test out the SAFE Browser with their own apps and see where they get stuck.


So in the coming weeks somewhere they will officially release Alpha 2. It will be the second official release as we've already seen Alpha 1.


Hope that clears things up a bit.

 
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