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April 11, 2017, 09:08:49 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink
hope that will be soon🙄
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April 11, 2017, 09:45:50 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

Why do you think so? They are almost ready to launch their product.

And I don't see any price manipulation. The price goes up and down in a relatively narrow range (comparing to the other pump-dump coins).
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April 11, 2017, 10:51:36 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

Why do you think so? They are almost ready to launch their product.

And I don't see any price manipulation. The price goes up and down in a relatively narrow range (comparing to the other pump-dump coins).

1000 btc buy walls are manipulation for sell high. Now price correction.
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April 11, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

If I was spewing as much BS as you I'd also be wearing a gasmask.
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April 11, 2017, 05:57:37 PM
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Can anybody describe what will be the purpose of MAID token in the SAFE network? Will I be able to earn MAID coins just by providing my computing power? If yes, what will be the rate?

Yes, its quite easy to understand actually:

You can browse SAFE for free. Including downloading files. But to get an account you need some Safecoin. Same to buy a domain or to PUT (upload) data to the network. Prices will be very low as no one needs to build a datacenter to store the data. The rate is variable, it all depends on how many people are providing resources to the network. The idea is to always have 30% free space.

If you want to "Farm" Safecoin you need to run a Vault (you can test this now on TEST 16). You get paid (not currently in testnet) for delivering datachunks to the network from your Vault. if a lot of people do this, the price per mb. will go down. If not enough people do this the price will go up. That way the network will always be in balance. 
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April 11, 2017, 11:19:48 PM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

Why do you think so? They are almost ready to launch their product.

And I don't see any price manipulation. The price goes up and down in a relatively narrow range (comparing to the other pump-dump coins).

They have been almost ready almost all the time ...

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April 12, 2017, 07:02:58 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

If I was spewing as much BS as you I'd also be wearing a gasmask.

Oh my god did I just piss off a fannboy?!

There is definitely manipulation going on in MAID market for quite a long time already. Whether it is by the devs remains a speculation. Everything else I just said is truth. They launched another investment round (hungry for more money). They have been around for almost a decade (longer than Bitcoin). And since they are a profit driven company much like the Ethereum foundation they are most likely doing the same kind of sick anti-freedom shit like reversing transactions to save their investors.

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April 12, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

If I was spewing as much BS as you I'd also be wearing a gasmask.

Oh my god did I just piss off a fannboy?!

There is definitely manipulation going on in MAID market for quite a long time already. Whether it is by the devs remains a speculation. Everything else I just said is truth. They launched another investment round (hungry for more money). They have been around for almost a decade (longer than Bitcoin). And since they are a profit driven company much like the Ethereum foundation they are most likely doing the same kind of sick anti-freedom shit like reversing transactions to save their investors.

Well, this is not your project then I guess  Cheesy

MaidSafe had some small investors before they did a crowdfund in 2014 (I joined that one). They ran out of money in 2016 again, not so strange actually as they had around 10 devs working for them and things took longer. There were some extra coins left from the crowdsale in 2014 (owned by the MaidSafe Foundation) which they used for extra funding. They have to give these coins back 1 day as explained here:

https://blog.maidsafe.net/2016/05/31/maidsafecoin-announcement/

Is this wrong?? I don't think so. The Foundation was started by David Irvine and he gave away his own Maidsafe Stocks to the Foundation. David is an idealistic person and the foundation already helped kids to do some technical stuff etc.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-foundation-introduction/6740

In 2016 they needed extra money because they didn't want to have funding trouble all the time. The MAID owners (like me) didn't had any dilution as there were no new coin created. Actually, there haven't been any new MAID created since 2014. The 19 million coins (from the foundation) did (partly) come to the market but this is only 4% of all coins out there.

So how did MaidSafe got extra money in 2016? well they sold a piece of their company using BankToTheFuture (I joind that crowdfund as well).

Here's the link: https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

So that was 1,5 million dollar. Some of it was in BTC as well which got up in price quite a lot. MAID got up in price as well in 2016 so the team is doing well for the coming periods. They have quite some people work for them now as programmers:

https://github.com/orgs/maidsafe/people


Here's Uber's investments rounds:

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/uber/funding-rounds

I count 16 of them in around 6 years  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  MaidSafe only did like 3 of them in 12 years.

Your claim about MaidSafe devs (Huh) manipulating the price doesn't really make sense. How would they do that? And why? They've had 19 million extra coins, which they sold (slowly) to keep the company running. If they dumped them they would've hurt themselves. Nowadays, how could they manipulate?? To double today's volume in MAID you need at least 1 million dollar. And we see days with even around 4 million dollar of volume. So if you see little pumps and dumps it's probably some other groups trying whatever. Quite risky if you ask me, you could dump a load of coins to the market to "buy lower" but who says the market gets back to where it was before you dumped your coins? Same the other way around, you could try to "buy up the price" but for how long would it hold??

Overall I'm happy MaidSafe has enough money to keep this thing going. Great thing about this project being run by a company is that it's 1 CEO with a vision who hires people. Far different from a lot of other crypto projects that see a fast rotation of people and ego's.    
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April 12, 2017, 11:53:23 AM
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Judging by the way MAID devs manipulate the price and always seem to be hungy for more IPO funds and investments while unable to launch their invention for a decade already I can bet that they will implement Proof-of-Vitalik conesnus algorithm for their imaginary SAFE Coin, after which the community is forced to spawn their own MAID Classic. You heard it here first  Wink

If I was spewing as much BS as you I'd also be wearing a gasmask.

Oh my god did I just piss off a fannboy?!

There is definitely manipulation going on in MAID market for quite a long time already. Whether it is by the devs remains a speculation. Everything else I just said is truth. They launched another investment round (hungry for more money). They have been around for almost a decade (longer than Bitcoin). And since they are a profit driven company much like the Ethereum foundation they are most likely doing the same kind of sick anti-freedom shit like reversing transactions to save their investors.

Well, this is not your project then I guess  Cheesy

MaidSafe had some small investors before they did a crowdfund in 2014 (I joined that one). They ran out of money in 2016 again, not so strange actually as they had around 10 devs working for them and things took longer. There were some extra coins left from the crowdsale in 2014 (owned by the MaidSafe Foundation) which they used for extra funding. They have to give these coins back 1 day as explained here:

https://blog.maidsafe.net/2016/05/31/maidsafecoin-announcement/

Is this wrong?? I don't think so. The Foundation was started by David Irvine and he gave away his own Maidsafe Stocks to the Foundation. David is an idealistic person and the foundation already helped kids to do some technical stuff etc.

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-foundation-introduction/6740

In 2016 they needed extra money because they didn't want to have funding trouble all the time. The MAID owners (like me) didn't had any dilution as there were no new coin created. Actually, there haven't been any new MAID created since 2014. The 19 million coins (from the foundation) did (partly) come to the market but this is only 4% of all coins out there.

So how did MaidSafe got extra money in 2016? well they sold a piece of their company using BankToTheFuture (I joind that crowdfund as well).

Here's the link: https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

So that was 1,5 million dollar. Some of it was in BTC as well which got up in price quite a lot. MAID got up in price as well in 2016 so the team is doing well for the coming periods. They have quite some people work for them now as programmers:

https://github.com/orgs/maidsafe/people


Here's Uber's investments rounds:

https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/uber/funding-rounds

I count 16 of them in around 6 years  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  MaidSafe only did like 3 of them in 12 years.

Your claim about MaidSafe devs (Huh) manipulating the price doesn't really make sense. How would they do that? And why? They've had 19 million extra coins, which they sold (slowly) to keep the company running. If they dumped them they would've hurt themselves. Nowadays, how could they manipulate?? To double today's volume in MAID you need at least 1 million dollar. And we see days with even around 4 million dollar of volume. So if you see little pumps and dumps it's probably some other groups trying whatever. Quite risky if you ask me, you could dump a load of coins to the market to "buy lower" but who says the market gets back to where it was before you dumped your coins? Same the other way around, you could try to "buy up the price" but for how long would it hold??

Overall I'm happy MaidSafe has enough money to keep this thing going. Great thing about this project being run by a company is that it's 1 CEO with a vision who hires people. Far different from a lot of other crypto projects that see a fast rotation of people and ego's.    


You mean last crowdfunding in Banktofuture because fund run out again? I doubt maidsafe will be completed if last round fund runs out again. Maybe a vaporware??

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April 12, 2017, 11:59:12 AM
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Great topic about how to setup a Vault. Very handy if you think about Farming Safecoin in the near future...

https://safenetforum.org/t/how-to-set-up-a-vault-from-home/13186

Enjoy!@!

I like ur vision though. Sadly vault does not have gui maybe this is because gui is said to be superfluous to a newly made piece of software. Wait lol that headless "wallet" has been around for months no need to explain how it looks. There are no farmers here, only 2-3 veteran members supporting safe because they get paid in bitcoin on daily basis.

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April 12, 2017, 12:16:14 PM
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your explanation seems plausible. I think polo is the biggest scammer in this business. They manipulate their own market. And they make their servers lag on purpose during big crashes.

But MAID, even though it is a really ambitious project, I'm not going to touch it until they deliver. It's quite stupid to buy into hot air. MAID shouldn't even be trading on popular exchanges such as polo, it is exactly the kind of fairy dust that Bitcoin Unlimited BTU futures are.

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your explanation seems plausible. I think polo is the biggest scammer in this business. They manipulate their own market. And they make their servers lag on purpose during big crashes.

But MAID, even though it is a really ambitious project, I'm not going to touch it until they deliver. It's quite stupid to buy into hot air. MAID shouldn't even be trading on popular exchanges such as polo, it is exactly the kind of fairy dust that Bitcoin Unlimited BTU futures are.

I should have learnt from you, I hold maid in 2015, I bought maid from 10k to 5k, and it was dumped to 3k, I sold them and after my sold out, the price went to 30k, what a tragedy I had.

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April 12, 2017, 10:42:25 PM
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your explanation seems plausible. I think polo is the biggest scammer in this business. They manipulate their own market. And they make their servers lag on purpose during big crashes.

But MAID, even though it is a really ambitious project, I'm not going to touch it until they deliver. It's quite stupid to buy into hot air. MAID shouldn't even be trading on popular exchanges such as polo, it is exactly the kind of fairy dust that Bitcoin Unlimited BTU futures are.

I should have learnt from you, I hold maid in 2015, I bought maid from 10k to 5k, and it was dumped to 3k, I sold them and after my sold out, the price went to 30k, what a tragedy I had.
I hold MAID since the ICO! X times profit!

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April 13, 2017, 07:07:42 PM
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Here's the latest dev update:

https://safenetforum.org/t/maidsafe-dev-update-april-13-2017/13288

Alpha 2 (same features as current TEST 16) is skipped for now because some attacker abuses the fact that planned security features (node_ageing, datachains) aren't implemented. They'll switch Alpha 2 and 3. So the features of Alpha 3 (which are loved by external devs) are coming first  Cheesy. this allows external devs to create wallets with the first alt_coins on the network.

I'm actually happy with this move, Alpha 2 had great updates under the hood, but from a users perspective wouldn't had brought anything new next to TEST 16. The now coming Alpha will bring us the SAFE Browser and Authenticator as official releases  Roll Eyes. This means 1 integrated system to easily connect to The SAFE Network.

Alpha 3 after that will bring us the Vaults from home as official release, with the first part of the datachains included.

Enjoy!@!
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April 17, 2017, 12:21:39 PM
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your explanation seems plausible. I think polo is the biggest scammer in this business. They manipulate their own market. And they make their servers lag on purpose during big crashes.

But MAID, even though it is a really ambitious project, I'm not going to touch it until they deliver. It's quite stupid to buy into hot air. MAID shouldn't even be trading on popular exchanges such as polo, it is exactly the kind of fairy dust that Bitcoin Unlimited BTU futures are.
You're right about Polo manipulation. It is enough to look at Easter trading and pumping many of shit coins to understand market manipulation.
Regarding MAID it is your choice to believe in their product or not. I have enough confidence and I like that team is based in Scotland. Scots are very brave nation and I have trust in them.

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April 17, 2017, 03:19:26 PM
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It looks good coin, so that I will able to buy some new coins.
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April 18, 2017, 09:31:24 AM
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Maid is going to reach critical mass , who invested will not be disappointed .

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April 18, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
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Maid is going to reach critical mass , who invested will not be disappointed .

Yep, I used to trade MAID a bit in the past, but I'm not taking that risk anymore.
From here on it's just accumulating and waiting for critical mass  Cool Cool Cool

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April 19, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFgOMFk9Sow
is maid getting stronker?

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Looks like Maid show is about to begin Cool

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