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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4641875 times)
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May 23, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
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@Darkota : LOL. Not much confident in DRK anymore if you have to spread such lies? or are you just boderline idiotic ? U should sell your DRK for any Cryptonote coin before the market realise that DRK doesnt even protect your privacy as most masternodes are centralized within amazon servers. Seriously sell fast. You technology is has been and you guys are in a bubble. Get your profit and leave before its too late!
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May 23, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
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The dev of Darkcoin implemented a Much much more advanced CoinJoin than maxwell did.. You cannot compare the two. The darksend/masternode system is as anonymous as Ring Signatues.

Monero offers: Ring Signatures copied from Bytecoin

Darkcoin offers: Masternodes that act as an incentive to uphold the network AND allow anonymous payments, and Darkcoin will also have Ring Signatures and I2P in a few months. Plus, Darkcoin will be the first to do so, it's already the first to implement advanced CoinJoin tech in a coin plus it's the first coin to have the x11 algo, which is much more asic resistant than Litecoin.

Monero is a copy/clone of Bytecoin and offers nothing innovative besides stealing work from another coin(Bytecoin). This coin has no future sorry to say. Anyone who disagrees is either a huge stakeholder in monero or a troll. There's no iff's about it, Copycat clones with no innovation like Monero never go far.

As I type this..There are  other Bytecoin clone's out with Monero such as HoneyPenny, Quazarcoin, and FantomCoin, and Bytecoin which Monero was forked/cloned/copied from, what makes Monero special? Nothing.

I know you're a major Darkcoin advocate and I don't mind you being into Darkcoin, but the lies you spread are borderline fraud.

- Monero offers the Bytecoin tech without the pre-mine, also MRO developers are leading all miner and client speed improvements over Bytecoin. They really are now in the lead.

- The community agrees with this, that is why MRO hashrate is currently higher than all other CryptoNote coins combined.

- Darksend is not a good improvement, great minds in Bitcoin IRC talked about how it's not all that great. It has centralisation issues, trust issues, attack issues.

- Ring sig in Monero cannot be compared to Darkcoin, Darkcoin is mere puff in comparison.
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May 23, 2014, 06:17:23 PM
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What's the difference between monero and darkcoin?

Monero is simply a fully decentralised anonymous transaction CryptoCoin. Darkcoin requires centralised (rich get richer) nodes to perform CoinJoin anonymity.

The creator of CoinJoin (a core Bitcoin developer) has said CoinJoin is in every way inferior to Monero tech.

So simply put, Darkcoin is a weak attempt to implement an inferior technology. However it's being pumped 24 hours a day as the Bitcoin killer and the followers believe the Darkcoin lead developer to be the next Satoshi.

They actually believe Darkcoin is the final CryptoCoin. I would urge caution.

Monero, Bitcoin and even Ethereum and not the final CryptoCoin, far from it.

Are you part of the Monero Core Team? If so, you are sure misinformed.

The dev of Darkcoin implemented a Much much more advanced CoinJoin than maxwell did.. You cannot compare the two. The darksend/masternode system is as anonymous as Ring Signatues.

Monero offers: Ring Signatures copied from Bytecoin

Darkcoin offers: Masternodes that act as an incentive to uphold the network AND allow anonymous payments, and Darkcoin will also have Ring Signatures and I2P in a few months. Plus, Darkcoin will be the first to do so, it's already the first to implement advanced CoinJoin tech in a coin plus it's the first coin to have the x11 algo, which is much more asic resistant than Litecoin.

Monero is a copy/clone of Bytecoin and offers nothing innovative besides stealing work from another coin(Bytecoin). This coin has no future sorry to say. Anyone who disagrees is either a huge stakeholder in monero or a troll. There's no iff's about it, Copycat clones with no innovation like Monero never go far.

As I type this..There are  other Bytecoin clone's out with Monero such as HoneyPenny, Quazarcoin, and FantomCoin, and Bytecoin which Monero was forked/cloned/copied from, what makes Monero special? Nothing.

Pls stop lying, i have the suspicion, that all Darkcoin people who are posting in this thread talking bad about the coin and are lying.
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May 23, 2014, 06:18:10 PM
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I know you're a major Darkcoin advocate and I don't mind you being into Darkcoin, but the lies you spread are borderline fraud.
- Monero offers the Bytecoin tech without the pre-mine, also MRO developers are leading all miner and client speed improvements over Bytecoin. They really are now in the lead.
- The community agrees with this, that is why MRO hashrate is currently higher than all other CryptoNote coins combined.
- Darksend is not a good improvement, great minds in Bitcoin IRC talked about how it's not all that great. It has centralisation issues, trust issues, attack issues.
- Ring sig in Monero cannot be compared to Darkcoin, Darkcoin is mere puff in comparison.

These guys are just trying to protect their assets and spead arbitrary rhetoric. The majority of the Darkcoin community has no clue how it all works on bothsides, so they will beleive what is written, so it is in the best interest for them to jump over here and say these things. No one has highjacked their thread in an attempt to make it fall, this will happen on its own. At the end of the day, a good handful of people only see its trading cost and really could careless about everything associated.
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May 23, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
Last edit: May 23, 2014, 06:37:09 PM by aminorex
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For those who care, I have decided to increase my MRO allocation.

I have two suggestions for this thread:

1) minimize replies to trolls.  just point them at a faq.  oops no good faq yet.

2) split mining related topics into another thread.


Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 23, 2014, 06:20:42 PM
Last edit: May 23, 2014, 07:27:34 PM by sorryforthat
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I still will sell small amounts when price gets extreme to reduce overall cost basis, make no mistake,

I have followed your guidance this far and it has treated me well, not from a sell standpoint but as someone who is here for the long term. What would you consider a good price to sell to reduce over all cost basis?


I agree with there needing to be a mining thread if not an overall how-to support type thread, to limit the uneeded questions that are repeaded so often.
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May 23, 2014, 06:22:44 PM
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The dev of Darkcoin implemented a Much much more advanced CoinJoin than maxwell did.. You cannot compare the two. The darksend/masternode system is as anonymous as Ring Signatues.


The Darkcoin dev himself says Ring Signatures are more anonymous. Which is why he wanted to implement them in Darkcoin.

His words were pretty much, he will be implementing ring signatures, which will substantially improve anonymity.

It's pretty sad you bash MRO every day in here. You make yourself look quite the embarassment. Would you like us to post in your topic constantly bashing Darkcoin's weaknesses?
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May 23, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
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New thread for Speculation and stuff to unclutter the main thread


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622708
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May 23, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
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I just joined the club

I've slowly been buying (up to 500 Monero)

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May 23, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
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something is going on, price will go up in the next 12 hours over 0.01  Wink
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May 23, 2014, 07:00:32 PM
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Anyone looking to invest in Monero, I suggest looking at Boolberry first. I know the name is kind of silly, but the developer actually implements real changes to the coin, unlike Monero. Monero's biggest achievement (optimized miner) is laughable. Also, Monero has an extremely fast reward curve, 86% in 4 years. Boolberry corrects this.
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May 23, 2014, 07:07:37 PM
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Anyone looking to invest in Monero, I suggest looking at Boolberry first. I know the name is kind of silly, but the developer actually implements real changes to the coin, unlike Monero. Monero's biggest achievement (optimized miner) is laughable. Also, Monero has an extremely fast reward curve, 86% in 4 years. Boolberry corrects this.

Thread hijacking is not cool. With all due respect to the BBR work, you don't see us going over there and telling people why they should drop BBR because the slightly more conservative approach of Monero is better for a coin to maintain a high level of users confidence and value.

Please show us the same respect.

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May 23, 2014, 07:08:44 PM
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how do I transfer coin into polo?

can you guys give me an example? please.
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May 23, 2014, 07:09:17 PM
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The windows 32 binary does not work and is corrupt when you try to extract the zip file.

Can someone please sort.
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May 23, 2014, 07:15:08 PM
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something is going on, price will go up in the next 12 hours over 0.01  Wink

Bittrex is adding support for cryptonote coins.
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May 23, 2014, 07:15:59 PM
Last edit: May 23, 2014, 07:34:29 PM by Taxidermista
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It was 0 in all my atempts.

I've just transfered 1 coin and it worked. So aparently I had to split in ONE-COIN transaction whatever I need to transfer to the exchange. This is insane...  Shocked
you don't have to do that. People are transfering thousands of coins in one transaction without problem. You can try transfer a random amount to another address of yours to see if the problem still occur.

Yes, same error.

By any chance those who transfer thousand of coins are small miners? Do they get those thousands of coins throught hundreds of thousands of little transactions from pools to their wallets? Because that's how I get my 2 coins. My pool made almost a hundred transactions to send me those 2 coins.

Literally people can transfer any amount within one transaction, there is no limit. I don't know what's your problem but it should be local.

Yes, there is a size limit. If your coins have a lot of little inputs it's easy to reach that limit.

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May 23, 2014, 07:27:35 PM
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Is there any way to transfer MRO from exchange to exchange directly?
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May 23, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
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1) minimize replies to trolls.  just point them at a faq.  oops no good faq yet.
First draft of a collaborative FAQ. Please add your questions and feel free to rephase.

Monero: the first crytocurrency to bring bank secrecy and net neutrality to the blockchain.HyperStake: pushing the limits of staking.
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May 23, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
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By any chance those who transfer thousand of coins are small miners? Do they get those thousands of coins throught hundreds of thousands of little transactions from pools to their wallets? Because that's how I get my 2 coins. My pool made almost a hundred transactions to send me those 2 coins.

The easiest way to deal with this is to clean up your coins by transferring them to another wallet. So create a second wallet and as you get the tiny coins from the exchange, transfer them to the second wallet in bigger units of say 0.1 or 0.2 (just guessing at the appropriate size here). Then you won't have any trouble sending transactions of 1-2 coins from the second wallet, because those will only use 10 inputs or so, not hundreds.
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May 23, 2014, 08:03:08 PM
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Just wanted to repost this as it has been a big topic in the past and speaks on the roots of Monero


I have some news to tell you. Do you remember I told you about the buddy who mined BCN last autumn? I didn't take his words for granted and was a bit pushy so he showed me a working deep web service that accepts BCN.
That's something for education: you can order a paper from payed library for BTC/BCN

http://q5eia6ev7svh2xlp.onion/index.php

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