[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[smooth]

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

There are very few comments, and little to nothing the way of design documents or notes, so either nearly all of these were removed from the tree (though "programmatically" is just a theory -- they could also have been removed by hand) or the code was never properly documented in the first place (ugh).

As further evidence for the latter, there are some modules that have been identified as being from other open source libraries with the attributions and comments removed, but again it is still possible those comments were removed but the rest of the code was never commented.

[newb4now]

Everyone please join
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

and

https://forum.getmonero.org

Better organization of information and less trolling

[fluffypony]

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

Also when they used our payment_id / RPC code and merged it back to their repo they stripped out all our explanatory comments.

[Hueristic]

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

There are very few comments, and little to nothing the way of design documents or notes, so either nearly all of these were removed from the tree (though "programmatically" is just a theory -- they could also have been removed by hand) or the code was never properly documented in the first place (ugh).

As further evidence for the latter, there are some modules that have been identified as being from other open source libraries with the attributions and comments removed, but again it is still possible those comments were removed but the rest of the code was never commented.

Have those modules comments been reinstated?

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

Also when they used our payment_id / RPC code and merged it back to their repo they stripped out all our explanatory comments.

Well thats a HUGE red flag! Is there a way to permanently point this out on github for others to note?

[nioc]

Everyone please join
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

and

https://forum.getmonero.org

Better organization of information and less trolling

Except that I can't reply in any threads on https://forum.getmonero.org

I used to be able to.  I can start threads, which I have to let it be known I am having issues.  Now waiting, it's all I can do.

[luigi1111]

Everyone please join
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

and

https://forum.getmonero.org

Better organization of information and less trolling

Except that I can't reply in any threads on https://forum.getmonero.org

I used to be able to.  I can start threads, which I have to let it be known I am having issues.  Now waiting, it's all I can do.

I see your thread there; since you can't respond there, I'll ask here:

Have you tried a new user account or different PC? Those seem the most obvious isolation ideas.

[nioc]

Everyone please join
http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/

and

https://forum.getmonero.org

Better organization of information and less trolling

Except that I can't reply in any threads on https://forum.getmonero.org

I used to be able to.  I can start threads, which I have to let it be known I am having issues.  Now waiting, it's all I can do.

I see your thread there; since you can't respond there, I'll ask here:

Have you tried a new user account or different PC? Those seem the most obvious isolation ideas.

Thanks for the suggestions.  Neither worked.

I had already tried 3 different browsers.

[marcetin]

New Monero crowd funded nodes are up!

https://bitnodes.net/node/104-255-33-226/
https://bitnodes.net/node/194-135-90-69/
https://bitnodes.net/node/23-227-190-223/

Cheers!

[medusa13]

how big is the network really?
i can see numbers from 8 mh/s to 14 mh/s.

can't we estimate it better? (or you, becasue i cant )

like saying difficulty 900'000'000 means there are like 20'000 gtx 960 equivalents or whatever

[smooth]

how big is the network really?
i can see numbers from 8 mh/s to 14 mh/s.

can't we estimate it better? (or you, becasue i cant )

like saying difficulty 900'000'000 means there are like 20'000 gtx 960 equivalents or whatever

The difficulty or some interpolated version of the difficulty is really the best estimate. The hash rate estimate is the difficulty estimate divided by 60.

So at a difficulty of 900M the hash rate estimate would be 15M. Let's say a midrange GPU is 500 H/s so that would be 30 000 GPUs.

[smooth]

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

There are very few comments, and little to nothing the way of design documents or notes, so either nearly all of these were removed from the tree (though "programmatically" is just a theory -- they could also have been removed by hand) or the code was never properly documented in the first place (ugh).

As further evidence for the latter, there are some modules that have been identified as being from other open source libraries with the attributions and comments removed, but again it is still possible those comments were removed but the rest of the code was never commented.

Have those modules comments been reinstated?

Getting more of the common code to directly use existing (and actively maintained) open source libraries is definitely an ongoing goal. It isn't exactly the highest priority because, well, it works the way it is and there are other priorities (and limited resources).

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

Also when they used our payment_id / RPC code and merged it back to their repo they stripped out all our explanatory comments.

Well thats a HUGE red flag! Is there a way to permanently point this out on github for others to note?

I think fluffypony pointed out the exact incident with github commits on one of the old trolling threads.

[iCEBREAKER]

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

There are very few comments, and little to nothing the way of design documents or notes, so either nearly all of these were removed from the tree (though "programmatically" is just a theory -- they could also have been removed by hand) or the code was never properly documented in the first place (ugh).

As further evidence for the latter, there are some modules that have been identified as being from other open source libraries with the attributions and comments removed, but again it is still possible those comments were removed but the rest of the code was never commented.

Have those modules comments been reinstated?

The original code apparently had nearly all the comments programmatically stripped out. (I have no idea how well commented it was before they were stripped, of course.)

What is the evidence that nearly all the comments were programmatically stripped out?

Also when they used our payment_id / RPC code and merged it back to their repo they stripped out all our explanatory comments.

Well thats a HUGE red flag! Is there a way to permanently point this out on github for others to note?

There may be licensing/attribution issues with borrowed and stripped code.  But IDK if github will do anything about it.

[MoneroMooo]

There may be licensing/attribution issues with borrowed and stripped code.  But IDK if github will do anything about it.

I wouldn't really want github to get in the business of deciding what gets censored or not. How would they determine if a claim is valid ? What if both projects took code from a third one which they don't know about, for instance ? Besides, only the attribution/copyright thing is wrong. Removing comments is perfectly fine, as long as the copyright notice is retained.

[binaryFate]

Is anybody working on a faucet?

[dEBRUYNE]

Is anybody working on a faucet?

Yeah, shitaifan2013 stated that he is working on that in cooperation with SafeDice if I recall correctly.

Edit:

MM time?

It's been a very busy week for Monero.

I demand a new MoneroWorld Weekly Digest!

Here I'll start:

- part time core dev crowdfunding nearly done  

-Chinese translation funded  

-Arabic and many other translations Soon(tm)  

-Peter Todd says nice thing about Monero, trolls Dash, absolutely epic butthurt ensues  

-NoodleDoodle issues massive commit bringing DB to RAM performance levels or better  

-RPIE announces his company will start the process of buying One Million Moneroj  

-8/8 is declared Lucky Monero Day in China  

-Jay-Z films new rap video sitting in hot tub filled with cryptonic coins, champagne, and groupies  

-Putin announces he will only sell gas/oil/vodka for XMR  

-Monero Bears still understandably terrified of shorting, even given 0% loans  

3 little additions

- a finnish company is planning to get more exposure to monero (edit: just saw that you already mentiioned this)

- a faucet is going to launch within the next few weeks

- 2 newly corwdfunded xmr nodes via bitnodes.net(https://bitnodes.net/status/) are up

have a good start in this new week gang!

Nice recap. I think I missed the faucet news. Where was that?

so far I've only dropped the hint on the faucet launch one or two times.   maybe that wasnt on here but on getmonero.org.

[americanpegasus]

Speaking of dice sites, who's gonna be the next Voorhees?  Who will make the goto dice/gambling site for Monero?  
  
I was actually seeing a push from some of the more creative alt coiners to create slot machines and virtual scratch off tickets with cryptocurrency.  If they were provably fair, this could be lucrative.  
  
I know maybe I'm opening up the floodgates for spam here, but can someone summarize all major Monero gambling sites in a single post?

[saddambitcoin]

Speaking of dice sites, who's gonna be the next Voorhees?  Who will make the goto dice/gambling site for Monero? 
 
I was actually seeing a push from some of the more creative alt coiners to create slot machines and virtual scratch off tickets with cryptocurrency.  If they were probably fair, this could be lucrative. 
 
I know maybe I'm opening up the floodgates for spam here, but can someone summarize all major Monero gambling sites in a single post?

I think SafeDice is the only other site accepting Monero.

In general dice left a bad taste in our mouths after Bobbax ran with the XMR. Were you around for that? Cryptocoins-Dice exit scam.

[smooth]

Speaking of dice sites, who's gonna be the next Voorhees?  Who will make the goto dice/gambling site for Monero? 
 
I was actually seeing a push from some of the more creative alt coiners to create slot machines and virtual scratch off tickets with cryptocurrency.  If they were probably fair, this could be lucrative. 
 
I know maybe I'm opening up the floodgates for spam here, but can someone summarize all major Monero gambling sites in a single post?

I think SafeDice is the only other site accepting Monero.

In general dice left a bad taste in our mouths after Bobbax ran with the XMR. Were you around for that? Cryptocoins-Dice exit scam.

What Voorhees did is not run an exit scam, and he made a lot more than Bobbax did. Something to consider.

[americanpegasus]

What Voorhees did is not run an exit scam, and he made a lot more than Bobbax did. Something to consider.

 
  
And is a famous and respected force in bitcoin now as a consequence.  
  
People underestimate the value of things constantly, including trust and reputation.  Vorhees made a nice purse from his dice website, but look what happened next.  He proved to the world that he had integrity and his *personal* value was rewarded when he was able to leverage it as collateral to startup 21 Inc.  
  
At the end of the day, if you scam 100 bitcoins from people and run you are just a player in another type of rat race.  Value is created around us every day, and value is only determined by the opinions of others.  Vorhees could have made off with a massive chunk and retired a millionaire, though one who needed to watch his back for the rest of his life.  
  
Instead?  He will likely be one of the richest men in the world one day at his current pace, a billionaire many times over.    
  
I'm looking forward to joining him on that list.

[iCEBREAKER]

Speaking of dice sites, who's gonna be the next Voorhees?  Who will make the goto dice/gambling site for Monero?  
  
I was actually seeing a push from some of the more creative alt coiners to create slot machines and virtual scratch off tickets with cryptocurrency.  If they were provably fair, this could be lucrative.  
  
I know maybe I'm opening up the floodgates for spam here, but can someone summarize all major Monero gambling sites in a single post?

What about making a web/wallet front-end for the nifty #Monero IRC gambling bot thingy?  That entity is trusted AFAIK.

S.DICE is an MPEX asset, which is another reason to create an equivalent ("RPEX"  ) in Monero-space.

Crypto Kingdom will need such a provably fair backend for its many casinos and gentlemanly gaming parlours.  I'd lend the hell out of my stash to a suitable Tacoshi Dice start-up.  

And then there's poker.  The next Seal With Clubs should use Monero to avoid Micon-type imperial entanglements....