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[dEBRUYNE]

I've noticed that the bitmonerod on Windows that I just compiled yesterday wants to start downloading the lmdb blockchain from scratch, even when I already have an up-to-date lmdb blockchain copy, synced using a previously compiled version of bitmonerod from around May 5th. What changes since then are forcing a fresh download of the blockchain?

This pull request probably, see the comments -> https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/364

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[smooth]

I've noticed that the bitmonerod on Windows that I just compiled yesterday wants to start downloading the lmdb blockchain from scratch, even when I already have an up-to-date lmdb blockchain copy, synced using a previously compiled version of bitmonerod from around May 5th. What changes since then are forcing a fresh download of the blockchain?

This pull request probably, see the comments -> https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/364

You should rebuild your DB after that update, but I don't remember seeing anything that makes the code do it by itself. So this still seems like bit of a mystery to me why it is happening.

[Globb0]

there is a new mixxive

https://www.mixcloud.com/Vanderi/monero-mixxives-5-2015/

smart,

I just moved and I now have my decks and records unpacked from the shed. woo hooo 

[odysseas10]

Looks like some people are questioning Bitcoins fixed blocks and considering adaptive blocks instead. No mention of Monero so far in the conversation, could be a good opportunity for one of our devs to show off one of Monero's best characteristics!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hpbxm/could_the_block_size_be_dynamic_like_the/

[smooth]

Looks like some people are questioning Bitcoins fixed blocks and considering adaptive blocks instead. No mention of Monero so far in the conversation, could be a good opportunity for one of our devs to show off one of Monero's best characteristics!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hpbxm/could_the_block_size_be_dynamic_like_the/

And get banned for mentioning another coin on /r/Bitcoin?

[odysseas10]

I don't have the technical knowledge to explain the adaptive block size myself - and I understand that you may not think it worthwhile/worth the risk of being banned (if that is indeed a risk). But I do not think that a mention of monero's adaptive block size would be OT on such a thread, particularly at a time when the Bitcoin community is finding itself in such a bind regarding block size. I would have thought that possible solutions to the problem, or at least feasible alternatives, would be welcome. I may be wrong though.

[sandor111]

there is a new mixxive

https://www.mixcloud.com/Vanderi/monero-mixxives-5-2015/

Awesome, nice tunes!

[luigi1111]

I've noticed that the bitmonerod on Windows that I just compiled yesterday wants to start downloading the lmdb blockchain from scratch, even when I already have an up-to-date lmdb blockchain copy, synced using a previously compiled version of bitmonerod from around May 5th. What changes since then are forcing a fresh download of the blockchain?

This pull request probably, see the comments -> https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/pull/364

You should rebuild your DB after that update, but I don't remember seeing anything that makes the code do it by itself. So this still seems like bit of a mystery to me why it is happening.

The commit is this one I think: https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/e5d2680094ee15889934fe28901e4e133cda56f2

[dEBRUYNE]

Looks like some people are questioning Bitcoins fixed blocks and considering adaptive blocks instead. No mention of Monero so far in the conversation, could be a good opportunity for one of our devs to show off one of Monero's best characteristics!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hpbxm/could_the_block_size_be_dynamic_like_the/

And get banned for mentioning another coin on /r/Bitcoin?

Posted it anyway, see -> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hpbxm/could_the_block_size_be_dynamic_like_the/cu9j1t1

I sympathize with the child there. Freedom of speech is only ever a good thing when I am free to say whatever the fuck I want, and others can only say whatever the fuck pleases my ears. Smooth must not be allowed to express his opinion by means of post/trust/rating/whatever! Oh ... Wait ... I see what you did there 

Guess you were spotted very early on, off you go back on ignore little Inquisitive Troll^(TM).
Please stop posting off-topic nonsense on this thread.

I haven't followed developments as closely as I would like, do we have any up-to-date community built binaries so I could try out the DB version on my Windows box? I know of the cautionary notes and caveats, just wondering if anyone has published binaries yet.

I think luigi1111 has, you could send him a PM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=171499) or try to contact him on IRC. Most of the time he's present in either #monero or #monero-dev.

[fluffypony]

I sympathize with the child there. Freedom of speech is only ever a good thing when I am free to say whatever the fuck I want, and others can only say whatever the fuck pleases my ears. Smooth must not be allowed to express his opinion by means of post/trust/rating/whatever! Oh ... Wait ... I see what you did there 

Guess you were spotted very early on, off you go back on ignore little Inquisitive Troll^(TM).
Please stop posting off-topic nonsense on this thread.

I haven't followed developments as closely as I would like, do we have any up-to-date community built binaries so I could try out the DB version on my Windows box? I know of the cautionary notes and caveats, just wondering if anyone has published binaries yet.

This is from last week: https://downloads.getmonero.org/monero.win.x64.v0-9-beta.zip

Exercise the appropriate level of care with it being a beta. We've recently found and solved what we hope to be the only major, breaking database issue (that could have caused major issues if we'd tagged prematurely), but that means that prior LMDB sync ups have to be resynced from scratch or imported from a fresh blockchain.raw export.

[G2M]

I sympathize with the child there. Freedom of speech is only ever a good thing …

You had me. To your point I dont think freedom of speech and trust ratings are comparable. Literally all my posts from years of being in BCT are now tainted. Ive been scammed countless times here and have I ever messed with a trust rating? My God maybe I should have! I am not a scammer and am not part of any "team". I supported a coin which smooth hates - that is my crime. I have done much more good than bad in my years here in BCT and smooth's shitstick is off-the-hook, dude.

Smooth has given neg trust to a few other people that support bcn before, only to remove it after .. get this .. : Private Conversation.

In case you're unsure of what that is:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+private+conversation

.. Should get you started in the right direction.

Your arguing by emotion on a public forum is only gonna piss off both yourself and him more, and just cause ya both to dig in further.

[myagui]

Thanks dEBRUYNE and double-thanks fluffypony.
Trying out the beta now, will report back any issues I might have (or on IRC if it looks lengthy for whatever reason).

[pookielax31]

Thanks dEBRUYNE and double-thanks fluffypony.
Trying out the beta now, will report back any issues I might have (or on IRC if it looks lengthy for whatever reason).

Whats this i here about a new beta?

[pa]

Thanks dEBRUYNE and double-thanks fluffypony.
Trying out the beta now, will report back any issues I might have (or on IRC if it looks lengthy for whatever reason).

Whats this i here about a new beta?

Is there an OS X beta?

[myagui]

fluffypony & co,

Just a quick update to say that I've sync'ed from scratch on my Windows box using the beta binaries, took me about 50 minutes to be fully up-to-date. This is on a relatively recent desktop (about 2 years old, with an SSD), and shoddy Internet access.

The only interesting observation I have at the moment, is that it was much faster to get me a fully sync'ed blockchain, than it is to get simplewallet to perform a full wallet rescan (as when doing a wallet restore). I have no clue if this is due to less parallelization of the simplewallet code, or just the nature & complexity of the work in this instance.

Task Manager tells me that a freshly started bitmonerod, is using about 26MB of RAM, though I figure it might not be fully settled yet.
w00t w00t 

In the next day or two, I'll try out some tiny transfers in-and-out, as well as daemon solo'ing (which I am willing to bet that I'll give up before I've found a block  ).
Big Cheers!

[KeyJockey]

Hey Monero-ites... I have a question RE: MyMonero vs. the offline-wallet generator software.

I made an offline address and then tried to "open" it with the given mnemonic seed words in MyMonero, i.e. I was kinda just testing how all this might work IF some day I wanted to make a safe address, to put some monero on it, and then later (eventually) access it again to move/spend the money.

But the ADDRESSES that resulted were NOT the same!

Is that correct?  How is this supposed to work, exactly?

For sake of illustration since I'm not gonna USE these addresses now, here is what I got:

Offline Generated Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4RoHhjxyryRWU7qvsp2wJ6L4g1eFaqM6YbD 6RX52j4KQ8PfuBk8

MyMonero Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4UcUpNefenD8HSZ7d9XWSXhmELmfCkvRQGT hzNeCUkaJKDd9nTV

MyMonero View Key (Private)
0ce617dbd51845dd6ada2f3b2d040b5deb6dde38f6640f65abc2a36518045802

MyMonero Spend Key (Private)
8c81ca3b40ae5c199ee10819b9c29959dcc4e97242d93cc6119938ea3858c303


Mnemonic Seed Was:
gigantic motherly lordship worry pool karate lopped certain major demonstrate pepper colony jobs people befit merger lending envy lectures sifting puzzled nanny lodge paper certain

So...?  IF I had sent money to that first address WOULD IT have BEEN there at this "second" address?  I suppose I could just test it with a few cents worth, LOL, but seriously this doesn't seem RIGHT.

An address is an address and for normal humans to EVER be able to understand any of this stuff I think at least THAT has to be consistent.

[GingerAle]

Hey Monero-ites... I have a question RE: MyMonero vs. the offline-wallet generator software.

I made an offline address and then tried to "open" it with the given mnemonic seed words in MyMonero, i.e. I was kinda just testing how all this might work IF some day I wanted to make a safe address, to put some monero on it, and then later (eventually) access it again to move/spend the money.

But the ADDRESSES that resulted were NOT the same!

Is that correct?  How is this supposed to work, exactly?

For sake of illustration since I'm not gonna USE these addresses now, here is what I got:

Offline Generated Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4RoHhjxyryRWU7qvsp2wJ6L4g1eFaqM6YbD 6RX52j4KQ8PfuBk8

MyMonero Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4UcUpNefenD8HSZ7d9XWSXhmELmfCkvRQGT hzNeCUkaJKDd9nTV

MyMonero View Key (Private)
0ce617dbd51845dd6ada2f3b2d040b5deb6dde38f6640f65abc2a36518045802

MyMonero Spend Key (Private)
8c81ca3b40ae5c199ee10819b9c29959dcc4e97242d93cc6119938ea3858c303


Mnemonic Seed Was:
gigantic motherly lordship worry pool karate lopped certain major demonstrate pepper colony jobs people befit merger lending envy lectures sifting puzzled nanny lodge paper certain

So...?  IF I had sent money to that first address WOULD IT have BEEN there at this "second" address?  I suppose I could just test it with a few cents worth, LOL, but seriously this doesn't seem RIGHT.

An address is an address and for normal humans to EVER be able to understand any of this stuff I think at least THAT has to be consistent.

Interesting. What I can tell you from my own experience is that an offline generated address (moneromoo's thing) opens fine in simplewallet using the mnemonic seed - same address... you can check my video series.

I would test the bolded above, but I bet that it would only show up at one address. I suspect thar be a bug somewhere.

For the record, I love those gigantic motherly lordships.

[fluffypony]

Thanks dEBRUYNE and double-thanks fluffypony.
Trying out the beta now, will report back any issues I might have (or on IRC if it looks lengthy for whatever reason).

Whats this i here about a new beta?

Is there an OS X beta?

Not yet - we're getting segfaults on older versions of OS X, busy fixing it now. Beta binaries are compiled sorta on-demand when someone is helping to test a specific feature / commit but doesn't have a compile environment.

[fluffypony]

fluffypony & co,

Just a quick update to say that I've sync'ed from scratch on my Windows box using the beta binaries, took me about 50 minutes to be fully up-to-date. This is on a relatively recent desktop (about 2 years old, with an SSD), and shoddy Internet access.

The only interesting observation I have at the moment, is that it was much faster to get me a fully sync'ed blockchain, than it is to get simplewallet to perform a full wallet rescan (as when doing a wallet restore). I have no clue if this is due to less parallelization of the simplewallet code, or just the nature & complexity of the work in this instance.

Task Manager tells me that a freshly started bitmonerod, is using about 26MB of RAM, though I figure it might not be fully settled yet.
w00t w00t 

In the next day or two, I'll try out some tiny transfers in-and-out, as well as daemon solo'ing (which I am willing to bet that I'll give up before I've found a block  ).
Big Cheers!

Bit of both - syncing up only requires tx/block verification, whereas simplewallet actually has to check each transaction for your viewkey. The other problem is that there's no parallelisation in simplewallet, and it chews memory on large wallets (as it keeps the entire cache in-RAM which is silly). We'll be addressing both of those in a future release.

[fluffypony]

Hey Monero-ites... I have a question RE: MyMonero vs. the offline-wallet generator software.

I made an offline address and then tried to "open" it with the given mnemonic seed words in MyMonero, i.e. I was kinda just testing how all this might work IF some day I wanted to make a safe address, to put some monero on it, and then later (eventually) access it again to move/spend the money.

But the ADDRESSES that resulted were NOT the same!

Is that correct?  How is this supposed to work, exactly?

For sake of illustration since I'm not gonna USE these addresses now, here is what I got:

Offline Generated Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4RoHhjxyryRWU7qvsp2wJ6L4g1eFaqM6YbD 6RX52j4KQ8PfuBk8

MyMonero Address:
4AYrGeied2XEbaL3uk3gBK1z95DQrcVwncMr5kXPUd7T4UcUpNefenD8HSZ7d9XWSXhmELmfCkvRQGT hzNeCUkaJKDd9nTV

MyMonero View Key (Private)
0ce617dbd51845dd6ada2f3b2d040b5deb6dde38f6640f65abc2a36518045802

MyMonero Spend Key (Private)
8c81ca3b40ae5c199ee10819b9c29959dcc4e97242d93cc6119938ea3858c303


Mnemonic Seed Was:
gigantic motherly lordship worry pool karate lopped certain major demonstrate pepper colony jobs people befit merger lending envy lectures sifting puzzled nanny lodge paper certain

So...?  IF I had sent money to that first address WOULD IT have BEEN there at this "second" address?  I suppose I could just test it with a few cents worth, LOL, but seriously this doesn't seem RIGHT.

An address is an address and for normal humans to EVER be able to understand any of this stuff I think at least THAT has to be consistent.

That...is...weird.

MyMonero's viewkey is completely wrong, it should be 0a731057880aec5b222887ee5101e5d8b6c0734c30cefb293f512f4c75637009. I'm going to have to figure out what's gone wrong.

Did you use the HTML offline generator, as in this one: https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator ?