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October 24, 2016, 07:29:06 AM
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Technical question:

How does RingCT enable multisig?

Is multisig also live on testnet?

Pardon me if this has already been answered on SE.


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October 24, 2016, 09:54:04 AM
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Technical question:

How does RingCT enable multisig?

It looks like magic to me... https://shnoe.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/mrl-0008_april28.pdf

Is multisig also live on testnet?

Pardon me if this has already been answered on SE.

Multisig is not implemented yet. Don't expect it to be released in less than a year. At least with the manpower currently available. Let us just hope this changes for the better.
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October 24, 2016, 01:41:01 PM
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Sold all my Monero in preparation for ZCash. will buy back once bottom is reached.
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October 24, 2016, 01:49:52 PM
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Technical question:

How does RingCT enable multisig?

It looks like magic to me... https://shnoe.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/mrl-0008_april28.pdf

Is multisig also live on testnet?

Pardon me if this has already been answered on SE.

Multisig is not implemented yet. Don't expect it to be released in less than a year. At least with the manpower currently available. Let us just hope this changes for the better.

Thanks for the link to the cryptomagic.

At what point in the RingCT rollout would an FFS proposal for more manpower speed up multisig implementation?


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October 24, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
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BTW, what is the story behind the name "monero"?
Who came up with it?

-sf-

Esperanto

Aaah, very interesting. Smiley
I was wondering if it's from an actual language or just a new word creation.

A reason more to like this coin.

-sf-
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October 24, 2016, 04:17:02 PM
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is pepe blind?

He just downloaded and ran the windows wallet, but can't figure out where the blockchain is stored?

Where can he find it?

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October 24, 2016, 04:23:04 PM
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is pepe blind?

He just downloaded and ran the windows wallet, but can't figure out where the blockchain is stored?

Where can he find it?

Ok, pepe figured it out:

http://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1146/where-is-the-blockchain-saved-in-windows

thanks pepe

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October 24, 2016, 04:23:40 PM
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is pepe blind?

He just downloaded and ran the windows wallet, but can't figure out where the blockchain is stored?

Where can he find it?
When you start the daemon, it tells you that information.
In our case...
Loading blockchain from folder C:\ProgramData\bitmonero

EDIT: Too late, pepe is smart  Cheesy
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October 24, 2016, 05:27:31 PM
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EDIT: Too late, pepe is smart  Cheesy

Pepe keeps digging.

He gets lots of errors of this sort:



Is this something to worry about?

EDIT: Sorry, fresh account doesn't let pepe post pictures in their full glory yet. But soon.

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October 24, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
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who cares about a GUI? XMR is clearly on bear mode and will be for the next months

Exactly XMR is an absolute beast of a coin and cannot be stopped.
Just look at that trade movement !  Cool

 
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October 24, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
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Pepe wonders,

is there a protocol documentation for monero, similar to what bitcoin has here?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation

In particular the structure of messages (getblocks, inv, version, etc...).

Pepe wants to eavesdrop on that node chatter.  Smiley

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October 24, 2016, 05:50:08 PM
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EDIT: Too late, pepe is smart  Cheesy

Pepe keeps digging.

He gets lots of errors of this sort:



Is this something to worry about?

EDIT: Sorry, fresh account doesn't let pepe post pictures in their full glory yet. But soon.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.msg16610453#msg16610453
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October 24, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
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"A Beginner’s Guide to Monero (Buying, Trading, Mining)" - by 99Bitcoins

https://99bitcoins.com/beginners-guide-to-monero/



"PyMoneroWallet: The Python library for the Monero wallet"

https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/86978/the-python-library-for-the-monero-wallet-pymonerowallet



"MoneroDirect.com public Beta Test begins"

https://MoneroDirect.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/594q89/monerodirectcom_public_beta_test_begins/

Privacy matters, use Monero - A true untraceable cryptocurrency
Why Monero matters? http://weuse.cash/2016/03/05/bitcoiners-hedge-your-position/
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October 24, 2016, 06:06:25 PM
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Thank you. Still syncing.

How big is monero's blockchain right now?

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Last edit: October 24, 2016, 07:50:33 PM by pepethefrog
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Pepe wonders,

is there a protocol documentation for monero, similar to what bitcoin has here?

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation

In particular the structure of messages (getblocks, inv, version, etc...).

Pepe wants to eavesdrop on that node chatter.  Smiley

Furthermore, Pepe struggles to dissect the blockchain structure of monero.
He's currently looking at data.mdb with his HEX-Editor and there is no ressemblance to bitcoin blockchain at all.

Is there a description of the datastructure of monero's blockchain somewhere?
What database format is used here?

Pepe would love if someone technically adept could point him in the right direction.

EDIT: Ok, Pepe found this link here: https://getmonero.org/knowledge-base/developer-guides/ but this is pretty limited to JSON and RPC stuff.
Pepe is not an amateur.
Is there more low-level material somewhere?
Pepe would hate to have to read C++ code (since he is mainly an expert in PePe++), but if he has to, he will.

Bipcoin: bip1W2nq2vhM4f6kaHSsVD5J1LdRb1M3mCqftwq6erpEeKzsj8Kjrxy5xUs9VAtF233nNzcMQN2ZQfJ fvi2WensZ5tGJv2ysY8
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October 24, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
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Hm, interesting.

So Pepe learns that monero uses LMDB and BerkeleyDB for the storage of its blockchain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Memory-Mapped_Database

Pepe will put on his MAGA cap and get to work now!

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October 24, 2016, 08:14:45 PM
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It's about 8GB.
It will take many hours if you syncing on a mechanical disk drive. An SSD will reduce dramatically this time.
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October 24, 2016, 08:34:01 PM
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It's about 8GB.
It will take many hours if you syncing on a mechanical disk drive. An SSD will reduce dramatically this time.

Thanks. Pepe is patient.
Blocks are coming in, while Pepe studies the specifics of monero.

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October 24, 2016, 09:23:11 PM
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Is there a secure node I can connect with to check my balance with simplewallet in the meanwhile?

Point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, using the following commands:

(linux / unix-type)
./monero-wallet-cli --daemon-host node.moneroworld.com

(windows)
monero-wallet-cli.exe --daemon-host node.moneroworld.com


Some background:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/50gzro/add_your_vps_node_to_moneroworlds_network_of_open/

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October 24, 2016, 09:57:09 PM
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At what point in the RingCT rollout would an FFS proposal for more manpower speed up multisig implementation?

Well someone else was wondering the same thing and made a detailed post in the Monero forum about this just yesterday.  There is a reply by fluffypony.

https://forum.getmonero.org/6/ideas/86987/multisig
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