[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[silencesilence]

what are the bad news and why the price has collapsed 

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[fluffypony]

what are the bad news and why the price has collapsed 

Our glorious leader, the honourable Admiral Foo Foo, has died during a combat mission in the outer rim of the western spiral arm of the galaxy. The market reflects our collective sadness.

Seriously, though, it's this ongoing nonsense - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789978.msg8910466#msg8910466

[samaricanin]

FUD again,nothing new

[krawallmining]

Every panic seller needs to remember how the team managed the last two attacks.
When the next months will go well, I think one can be very sure (as far is this is possible) about the technical reliability of this coin. I'm confident.

Price will go up and down...

[sucksyd]

Every panic seller needs to remember how the team managed the last two attacks.
When the next months will go well, I think one can be very sure (as far is this is possible) about the technical reliability of this coin. I'm confident.

Price will go up and down...

but it declines by 20 percent

[chicken65]

Im LOL at all you soon to be bagholders.. Dont you get it? The coin code is flawed. No fighting facts here. If I were you guys I'd be selling all my xmr and hopping into safe bets like btc and stealthcoin.

Its, as simple as that.

I did just that and picked up stealth.

Some would say Im a weak hand
nah, I just go where the profit is

[farfiman]

Im LOL at all you soon to be bagholders.. Dont you get it? The coin code is flawed. No fighting facts here. If I were you guys I'd be selling all my xmr and hopping into safe bets like btc and stealthcoin.

Its, as simple as that.

I did just that and picked up stealth.

Some would say Im a weak hand
nah, I just go where the profit is

sure you are...  both of you were in stealthcoin long before this unfolded...go fud somewhere else.

[krawallmining]

but it declines by 20 percent

Supposed to happen when big panic selling starts.
In three weeks it may be much higher again.

[papa_lazzarou]

any way to setup a miner proxy to solo mine?

I think this is what you are looking for

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735738.msg8310952#msg8310952

[rpietila]

Every panic seller needs to remember how the team managed the last two attacks.
When the next months will go well, I think one can be very sure (as far is this is possible) about the technical reliability of this coin. I'm confident.

Price will go up and down...

Before the threat to attack the coin, the price was relatively calm (48 hours in 340-390, average 364). When the threat came, the price tanked to 281, which was a 22% fall in a few minutes. For those who don't remember the Bitcoin weekly 20-30% flashcrashes in for example March 2013, that may seem like dramatic, in fact it is not. But it is something that has not happened with Monero in the recent history, if ever.

If you take 360 or 364 as the baseline price from which to calculate the attack odds, the current market evaluation can be read from the following table:

Code:

price	kill%
360	0 %
342	5 %
324	10 %
306	15 %
288	20 %
270	25 %
252	30 %
etc	...

If you check the price, and conclude the market has priced the risk wrongly, you should take action. Another approach is to try to swingtrade, but this leaves you holding the bag if the coinkiller attack materializes.

Just selling, without doing the math, is good if and only if you absolutely cannot take any risk that it dies. Because if it does, you can buy back at a loss. (There will be others wanting to buy back also in that situation.)

Just buying because it is cheap, without doing the math, is good if and only if you are prepared to lose 100% of the investment in less than 3 days, no matter how low the risk of this actually happening is perceived to be.

Happy trading! Also my options are operational, with skyhigh implied volatility of course.

[dEBRUYNE]

Every panic seller needs to remember how the team managed the last two attacks.
When the next months will go well, I think one can be very sure (as far is this is possible) about the technical reliability of this coin. I'm confident.

Price will go up and down...

Before the threat to attack the coin, the price was relatively calm (48 hours in 340-390, average 364). When the threat came, the price tanked to 281, which was a 22% fall in a few minutes. For those who don't remember the Bitcoin weekly 20-30% flashcrashes in for example March 2013, that may seem like dramatic, in fact it is not. But it is something that has not happened with Monero in the recent history, if ever.

If you take 360 or 364 as the baseline price from which to calculate the attack odds, the current market evaluation can be read from the following table:

Code:

price	kill%
360	0 %
342	5 %
324	10 %
306	15 %
288	20 %
270	25 %
252	30 %
etc	...

If you check the price, and conclude the market has priced the risk wrongly, you should take action. Another approach is to try to swingtrade, but this leaves you holding the bag if the coinkiller attack materializes.

Just selling, without doing the math, is good if and only if you absolutely cannot take any risk that it dies. Because if it does, you can buy back at a loss. (There will be others wanting to buy back also in that situation.)

Just buying because it is cheap, without doing the math, is good if and only if you are prepared to lose 100% of the investment in less than 3 days, no matter how low the risk of this actually happening is perceived to be.

Happy trading! Also my options are operational, with skyhigh implied volatility of course.

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

[rpietila]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

[Bobsurplus]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off.

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.

Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

[Anon136]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off.

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.

Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

Why don’t we just reserve judgement until after the cards have fallen.

[Bobsurplus]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off.

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.

Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

Why don’t we just wait until after the cards fall to pass judgement.

What?? Why wait? Seems like the general consensus by the people who are way smarter then I is that XMR is dead and the code is flawed.  It's like buying a new car and finding out its a lemon. Its never gonna be good again. It will be problems after problems. There's no "fixing" this code. It was flawed from the start anyway as cryptonotes already had the major issue of blockchain bloat.

My question is how long till you realize what coin out there has the answer to true anon without all the bloat.

[Jeff8247]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Answer the question. Have you sold any of your stash?

[Bobsurplus]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Answer the question. Have you sold any of your stash?

Hell motherfucking yeah he did. That goes without saying. This guy is a money-maker and he aint going to be left holding the bag. NOPE, that will be all you guys who buy into his bullshit ans try to wait it out for a "month".
 
P.s That's like a year in the crypto world.

[Anon136]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off.

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.

Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

Why don’t we just wait until after the cards fall to pass judgement.

What?? Why wait? Seems like the general consensus by the people who are way smarter then I is that XMR is dead and the code is flawed.  It's like buying a new car and finding out its a lemon. Its never gonna be good again. It will be problems after problems. There's no "fixing" this code. It was flawed from the start anyway as cryptonotes already had the major issue of blockchain bloat.

My question is how long till you realize what coin out there has the answer to true anon without all the bloat.

Ok ill entertain you. What is this alternative that satisfies both the unlinkability and untracability requirements? I dont have time to read into all of the altcoins out there but of what i have read all of the other supposed "anonymous" coins either just coinjoin, which is a wholly unsatisfactory "solution", or they leave all of their activity plain as day for anyone to analyse on the blockchain but call it "anonymous" because they run network traffic through tor. Show me something that isn’t subject to either of these criticisms and i will look into it.

*edit* please reply quickly i have to leave soon

[Triffin]

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else..
Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.
Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

If BCX is to be believed ..
We'll all know within 72 hours ..
Wed am should tell the tale ..  

Triff ..

[generalizethis]

What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?

I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events.

I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month

As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish.

Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off.

You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep.

Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead!

Someone with a investment thread should be just telling their investors what coins to buy, not actively attacking a coin, right? So what's your motive? You have a coin you're trying to sell and you see Monero as its natural enemy.  So you wait until there's a rumor of an attack on this coin and you  start making posts to try and lure people away and to whatever coin you are most invested in, but as a bonus, you seize the moment to trash another  investor who people listen to and trust because you have unresolved jealousy issues.

Tell me if I got anything wrong.