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June 06, 2014, 04:14:42 AM
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Nothing violent or threatening ... then bring on the force of the US-law-enforcement on him

Wait wut Huh I don't get it. Which one of those two things is true?

You know the pitchforkgrabbing mob sayings: "Kill him", "track him down and send a few guys to break some of his bones!".

I don't want any of that to happen, just legal enforcement. Thats no threatening right?

I suppose there is a distinction in the sense that the mob would just kill you while the cops would give you the choice of being killed or locked in some dungeon with a bunch of horny homosexual neanderthals. more choice is always better but i wouldnt color it in terms of violence vs not violence or threat vs non threat.

I am no expert for financial crime law but do you really think he would serve jail time for such a thing? I was thinking in terms of restitution + big fine+ online shaming and killing his credibility associated with his real name.

Well idk but fraudsters deserve what they get so dont worry about it. +1 for the mob and leg breaking if he really defrauded people.

Turns out it was most likely a "she" and "asian"...

Still want to sick the government dogs on her?

Oh, so we should just automatically go easy on her because she has a vagina?... Sorry, but I don't fall for the rampant sexist propaganda that circles almost all cultures.  If we're going to claim that women deserve equal treatment (I'm assuming we do), then that has to be universal and apply to everything including consequences.  

Edit: Also, I don't think we should be physically violent with anyone, man or women.

i certainly never said that. it was purely a question resulting from my legitimate curiosity about whether the vagina effected his position. ironically the point of the question your comment is in reference to was probably very similar to your question its self.

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June 06, 2014, 04:26:02 AM
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Nothing violent or threatening ... then bring on the force of the US-law-enforcement on him

Wait wut Huh I don't get it. Which one of those two things is true?

You know the pitchforkgrabbing mob sayings: "Kill him", "track him down and send a few guys to break some of his bones!".

I don't want any of that to happen, just legal enforcement. Thats no threatening right?

I suppose there is a distinction in the sense that the mob would just kill you while the cops would give you the choice of being killed or locked in some dungeon with a bunch of horny homosexual neanderthals. more choice is always better but i wouldnt color it in terms of violence vs not violence or threat vs non threat.

I am no expert for financial crime law but do you really think he would serve jail time for such a thing? I was thinking in terms of restitution + big fine+ online shaming and killing his credibility associated with his real name.

Well idk but fraudsters deserve what they get so dont worry about it. +1 for the mob and leg breaking if he really defrauded people.

Turns out it was most likely a "she" and "asian"...

Still want to sick the government dogs on her?

Oh, so we should just automatically go easy on her because she has a vagina?... Sorry, but I don't fall for the rampant sexist propaganda that circles almost all cultures.  If we're going to claim that women deserve equal treatment (I'm assuming we do), then that has to be universal and apply to everything including consequences.  

Edit: Also, I don't think we should be physically violent with anyone, man or women.

i certainly never said that. it was purely a question resulting from my legitimate curiosity about whether the vagina effected his position. ironically the point of the question your comment is in reference to was probably very similar to your question its self.

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June 06, 2014, 05:02:12 AM
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Da fuck is going on? What attack. My NXT better be safe. Can someone explain in non technical terms how this attack effects NXT?

Long story short, stay away from clones of NXT, and only use the original NXT. It has plenty of room to grow, there is no reason to be extra greedy trying clones, they will always suck, especially if you use the same pass.
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June 06, 2014, 07:25:09 AM
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Turns out it was most likely a "she" and "asian"...

Where did you find that?

Is she finally tracked down??

She or He, this individual is definitely SCUM.
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June 06, 2014, 07:36:40 AM
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Mintpal adding Nxt!

I know I know, not this again  Grin Here is the short history so everyone is up to speed.

A few months ago, Nxt won a vote to get added to Mintpal with some people using donating BTC for votes. Mintpal tried and for whatever reason, couldn't add Nxt so they refunded the money. So nice guys  Grin and that's where it ended.


Something happened today that got their attention (  Cheesy  ) and they tweeted Fatih87SK and Berzerk asking if they wanted Nxt to be listed. But on the condition a 1 BTC payment to cover implementation costs. Naturally, this annoyed some and others didn't mind.

It was too contentious for community funding so the 1 BTC was crowd sourced from the pockets of Nxters who believe it is a good idea. The Nxt is being exchanged as I type and will be sent very soon. I saw in all the discussion they could have Nxt set up in two days so we could have it by Sunday.


Full thread and keep up with the story here >>>> https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/mintpal-and-nxt/100


Two new exchanges in less than a week, not bad going  Grin
another good news.
This would've been valuable insider information if it was kept secret.  Grin

Transparency is good. If we did that CfB wouldn't be angry with us, he wouldn't shout, he would just be very disappointed

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June 06, 2014, 07:37:03 AM
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From the NXT wiki:

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Note: Until you send some Nxt from your account, it will be protected only by 64-bit entropy. As soon as one outgoing transaction is made your account will receive a public key and it will be protected by 256-bit entropy, much more secure. As a result, we recommend issuing a transaction (by sending Nxt, registering an alias, or sending a message) as soon as possible after Nxt is deposited into your account for the first time.

So my understanding is that because passphrases are 256-bit but the IDs that they map to are 64-bit, there are more possible combinations of passphrases than IDs, and so multiple passphrases will map to a single ID. By broadcasting a transaction to the network, this somehow registers your passphrase as the owner of that particular ID and nobody else can use it from that point on. My question is this: Is there any particular reason why they chose to make IDs 64-bit but passphrases 256-bit? Why not just make IDs 256-bit in order to bypass this step and keep all accounts secure from the very beginning?
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June 06, 2014, 07:39:39 AM
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My guess readability and usability (much more possibility for errors in longer number, especially since there was no checksum or the like)
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June 06, 2014, 07:48:09 AM
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From the NXT wiki:

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Note: Until you send some Nxt from your account, it will be protected only by 64-bit entropy. As soon as one outgoing transaction is made your account will receive a public key and it will be protected by 256-bit entropy, much more secure. As a result, we recommend issuing a transaction (by sending Nxt, registering an alias, or sending a message) as soon as possible after Nxt is deposited into your account for the first time.

So my understanding is that because passphrases are 256-bit but the IDs that they map to are 64-bit, there are more possible combinations of passphrases than IDs, and so multiple passphrases will map to a single ID. By broadcasting a transaction to the network, this somehow registers your passphrase as the owner of that particular ID and nobody else can use it from that point on. My question is this: Is there any particular reason why they chose to make IDs 64-bit but passphrases 256-bit? Why not just make IDs 256-bit in order to bypass this step and keep all accounts secure from the very beginning?

My understanding is it's exactly that. Long passphrase, short addresses = possibility of collisions.
Sending a transaction registers your public key, not your private key, with the network. This means no one who inputs a private key that happens to map to your address can use your account.
I imagine addresses are short for convenience. There's no need to have a long address. And private keys can be any length.
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June 06, 2014, 08:15:15 AM
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Hi guys,

just made my first NXT account. Could somebody please send me some to test? Thanks!

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June 06, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
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Hi guys,

just made my first NXT account. Could somebody please send me some to test? Thanks!

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Welcome! I just transferred a few NXT! Have fun! (Buy more at http://dgex.com/index.htm?2254 of get them free, ref. links)
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June 06, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
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http://www.nxtreporting.com

Check out that site! It is epic! EPIC!

WOW...just WOW!

NXT really is on the way to the moon and never coming back!
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June 06, 2014, 09:03:22 AM
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great coin. like it Grin
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June 06, 2014, 09:32:26 AM
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I'm helping put together a short "Getting Started with NXT" film. Obviously getting some NXT is pretty key to this. As well as the NXTRA faucet, I want to provide a list of reliable exchanges - bear in mind this will be many people's first experience of NXT, and if it's a bad one they won't come back. Additionally, if we omit certain exchanges (cough, Cryptsy, cough) from the film we can tell them we'll include them when they get their act together.
I'm looking for the 3 or 4 best exchanges. So far I'm thinking of including:
BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?
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June 06, 2014, 09:37:56 AM
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Hi Nxt-People
The Nxt ecosystem has a shiny brandnew service: NxtReporting.com is a beautiful, easy to use web service. Its main purpose is to track the profitability of your complete Nxt Asset Exchange Portfolio. Yes, exactly: For every asset you possess, you can see if you made a profit or a loss with it. You can track exactly when you bought how much of it, when you sold it and what were the best trades. Additionally, it works as a complete blockbrowser with graphs of the last trades and a lot of info. And all of that by simply entering your account number. No registering, no login needed, for free!

=How can you help to further improve NxtReporting.com and increase the overall value of Nxt=
* test, use, and enjoy NxtReporting: go to NxtReporting.com, enter your Nxt account number, have fun.
* spread the word about NxtReporting: tweet about it, retweet about it, blog about it, post about it, tell your friends, neighbors and grand parents about it.
* Give feedback to us: possible improvements, feature requests, bug reports. Every feedback is appreciated!

=How we want to further improve NxtReporting.com=
* implementing new features, showing additional information, make nicer and more graphs
* fixing bugs and adding improvements, based on your feedback

NxtReporting.com was created by Dario and me. Dario is the developer of CoinReporting.com, a nice service to track your cryptocurrency portfolio. And me, I am just a simple Nxt enthusiast, who wants Nxt to rule the world Smiley

See the official announcement and thread here:
https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/nxtreporting-com-the-nxt-asset-exchange-portfolio-manager/
Post feature requests, bugs, comments in that thread


TL;DR
Checkout NxtReporting.com, the Nxt Asset Exchange Portfolio Manager with Profitability Tracking. Use it, enjoy it, spread the word about it and give feedback how we can further improve it.

Enjoy Nxt!

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June 06, 2014, 09:47:00 AM
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BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?

The first 2 only, the third one just started with NXT, it's not proven to be reliable yet, specifically for NXT it may have deposit/withdrawal issues, and it takes time to prove it functions ok. Be sure to underline that DGEX features manual withdrawals so people don't freak out if they don't receive them immediately.
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June 06, 2014, 09:48:53 AM
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BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?

The first 2 only, the third one just started with NXT, it's not proven to be reliable yet, specifically for NXT it may have deposit/withdrawal issues, and it takes time to prove it functions ok. Be sure to underline that DGEX features manual withdrawals so people don't freak out if they don't receive them immediately.

Thanks. That's a shame. I'd like to give people some options. Unfortunately BTER is the only exchange as far as I know that runs really smoothly for NXT - and even then I've seen the odd complaint.
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June 06, 2014, 10:10:14 AM
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Mintpal adding Nxt!

I know I know, not this again  Grin Here is the short history so everyone is up to speed.

A few months ago, Nxt won a vote to get added to Mintpal with some people using donating BTC for votes. Mintpal tried and for whatever reason, couldn't add Nxt so they refunded the money. So nice guys  Grin and that's where it ended.


Something happened today that got their attention (  Cheesy  ) and they tweeted Fatih87SK and Berzerk asking if they wanted Nxt to be listed. But on the condition a 1 BTC payment to cover implementation costs. Naturally, this annoyed some and others didn't mind.

It was too contentious for community funding so the 1 BTC was crowd sourced from the pockets of Nxters who believe it is a good idea. The Nxt is being exchanged as I type and will be sent very soon. I saw in all the discussion they could have Nxt set up in two days so we could have it by Sunday.


Full thread and keep up with the story here >>>> https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/mintpal-and-nxt/100


Two new exchanges in less than a week, not bad going  Grin

Let's NO advertise this issue too much ok?

It will be REALLY counterproductive.  Lips sealed
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June 06, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
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BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?

The first 2 only, the third one just started with NXT, it's not proven to be reliable yet, specifically for NXT it may have deposit/withdrawal issues, and it takes time to prove it functions ok. Be sure to underline that DGEX features manual withdrawals so people don't freak out if they don't receive them immediately.
+1

Add Poloniex and Cryptsy?
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June 06, 2014, 11:16:19 AM
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BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?

The first 2 only, the third one just started with NXT, it's not proven to be reliable yet, specifically for NXT it may have deposit/withdrawal issues, and it takes time to prove it functions ok. Be sure to underline that DGEX features manual withdrawals so people don't freak out if they don't receive them immediately.
+1

Add Poloniex and Cryptsy?

NXT is on Cryptsy already!?
I'm voting every day for adding on hitbtc  https://hitbtc.com/vote
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June 06, 2014, 11:28:18 AM
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BTER.com
DGEX.com
btc38.com
One more - any suggestions? Or reasons not to include any of the above?

The first 2 only, the third one just started with NXT, it's not proven to be reliable yet, specifically for NXT it may have deposit/withdrawal issues, and it takes time to prove it functions ok. Be sure to underline that DGEX features manual withdrawals so people don't freak out if they don't receive them immediately.
+1

Add Poloniex and Cryptsy?

NXT is on Cryptsy already!?

I'm voting every day for adding on hitbtc  https://hitbtc.com/vote

Yes. The problem is that's where it stays.
Cryptsy has been plagued with withdrawal problems - every other page in this thread there's another post about it. Not one I'd recommend to newcomers, or anyone until they fix that.
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