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May 28, 2014, 02:48:14 AM
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big red letters. IE is that you? Huh
No, I am not IE.

I supported Libertycoin, but it has descended into this.

I was watching IRC seeing everything from before the incident with IE and after.

I was logged in all day, even when IE, barrabas and everyone else was there.

I'm out of XLB now, as I said in a previous post in this thread.

The linking of that picture is totally out of order.

It is sick.

The stupid idiot couldn't even cut & paste IE out of the picture and post thta, that would have been ok.

But link, quite probably, his FAMILY?

That is way over the line.

Others have talked about "getting lawyers into it all".

Well, the posting of that picture is 100 times worse than any shit that's been threatened here or elsewhere.


Seriously guys, that is fucked up.
posting a pic from a known scammer's public profile is not a crime at all, I dont think it was a good thing to do at all, but I would rather people know the face of the guy who admittedly stole 4500-13000$ than get ripped off by him again
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May 28, 2014, 02:49:05 AM
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So, is XLB dead? Plz be honest as I am considering investment.

plz be honest? Are you serious? "Full Member"?

(Sorry, don`t wont to be offending)

People, calm down, for example Potcoin lost around 50% during the past 24 hours and noone is yelling "game over" there.
It`s all part of the game, time to buy cheap...

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Libertycoin Chinese QQ group is welcome to come to discuss particular number is 196124814 authors Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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May 28, 2014, 02:52:32 AM
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big red letters. IE is that you? Huh
No, I am not IE.

I supported Libertycoin, but it has descended into this.

I was watching IRC seeing everything from before the incident with IE and after.

I was logged in all day, even when IE, barrabas and everyone else was there.

I'm out of XLB now, as I said in a previous post in this thread.

The linking of that picture is totally out of order.

It is sick.

The stupid idiot couldn't even cut & paste IE out of the picture and post thta, that would have been ok.

But link, quite probably, his FAMILY?

That is way over the line.

Others have talked about "getting lawyers into it all".

Well, the posting of that picture is 100 times worse than any shit that's been threatened here or elsewhere.


Seriously guys, that is fucked up.
posting a pic from a known scammer's public profile is not a crime at all, I dont think it was a good thing to do at all, but I would rather people know the face of the guy who admittedly stole 4500-13000$ than get ripped off by him again
Knowing HIS face I don't have an issue with.

But it just shows how dumb people are by coming up with "reasons" to make it acceptable to show an innocent child.

It isn't.

Under any circumstances.

It is indefensible.  So please stop.
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May 28, 2014, 02:53:18 AM
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So, is XLB dead? Plz be honest as I am considering investment.


People, calm down, for example Potcoin lost around 50% during the past 24 hours and noone is yelling "game over" there.
It`s all part of the game, time to buy cheap...


THIS! I genuinely think it has great potential WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT! 

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May 28, 2014, 02:53:40 AM
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After everything that happened today I still can not understand two things:

1- Why this topic is infested Blackcoin Fanboys ?

2 - If "Templar77" is the Lybertycoin DEV and he also built Cinni. Why Rat4 the creator of Blackcoin helped Cinni? It´s very strange for me. Does anyone notice this important detail? Tic ... Tic ... Tic
Huh


Cause they are scammer and blackcoin fanboys. They won't point out the obvious like you said above, but attackt the very man that was making the coin money. It's insane really, IE was going to make a bunch of ungrateful nerdy virgins a lot of money, and they turn there back on them.

Good luck kids, you think your big shots, wait til wall st comes into cryptos, GAME OVER.  
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May 28, 2014, 02:57:53 AM
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After everything that happened today I still can not understand two things:

1- Why this topic is infested Blackcoin Fanboys ?

2 - If "Templar77" is the Lybertycoin DEV and he also built Cinni. Why Rat4 the creator of Blackcoin helped Cinni? It´s very strange for me. Does anyone notice this important detail? Tic ... Tic ... Tic
Huh


Cause they are scammer and blackcoin fanboys. They won't point out the obvious like you said above, but attackt the very man that was making the coin money. It's insane really, IE was going to make a bunch of ungrateful nerdy virgins a lot of money, and they turn there back on them.

Good luck kids, you think your big shots, wait til wall st comes into cryptos, GAME OVER.  
Can u plz explain me .....HOW IS THIS GAME OVER?HuhHuh?

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[Draft]
Official Statement regarding the event occurred today and the future of Libertycoin

What happened?
This morning (CST), one of our members changed the password of the Bitcointalk account. A few hours after that, we got a message from Iconic Expert threatening to fork Libertycoin and start a new thread because we had changed the password. Obviously, that sounded nuts. After that, he joined the IRC channel where I (Templar77) already had been for a few hours. He said he was trying to work for Libertycoin but I was always in his way. I asked him what was the problem, but he never answered that. I even told him that I still wanted to collaborate with him, but he said he was done with Libertycoin and he left.
After that, the price plumbed to from 12k satoshi to 5k satoshi.

How Iconic Expert got involved in Libertycoin
We gave him access to the Bitcointalk account almost a week ago. His task was to ‘promote’ Libertycoin. When we received him we were not well informed of what he had done in the Blackcoin community.
All the week when he was involved our thread was flooded with attacks against him. In the beginning, we didn’t give much importance to those posts for we thought it was coming from trolls, but days passed and the attacks against him never stopped, so we decided to investigate more about him.

Iconic Expert
Christopher Bouzy, aka Iconic Expert, received Blackcoin donations to ‘make’ an event in Wall Street, but then he cancelled it and never gave back the money to the people. Basically, he said he was leaving Blackcoin and launching his own coin, but never returned the money.
We have confirmed so far that he uses other ‘proxy’ accounts, like Barabbas, to post in Bitcointalk and Twitter.

The price fall
So what has changed in Libertycoin? Nothing, Libertycoin is the same coin that was yesterday, and the day before, so there is really no reason for a reduction in the price. Libertycoin is now stronger because we got rid of a known scammer.
We obviously do not have all the answers for what caused the price fall, but we can say it is very likely that Iconic Expert dumping all his coins and all the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) he caused with his ‘proxy’ accounts.
Iconic Expert bough in probably around 1,000 – 2,000 satoshi so he probably had a big amount of coins.

Anonymity
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (past)
As you might now, we offered a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB to implement any kind of anonymity in the Libertycoin protocol. Almost a week ago, Tranzium and others started developing it. A standalone version was set up here: http://cosmiclottery.com/libertycoin/
Around two days ago, we received an email from the team working on that implementation saying they could not finish the work because they were struggling to implement it into the wallet/daemon, so we keep waiting for them and finish it while finding someone else to do the job.
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (today)
Today Polzki contacted us with a possible solution. He says he knows the CEO of a programming company in China, so they can help us develop a new and innovative anonymity function for the Libertycoin protocol.
The website of the company: http://www.synv.com/
At 1:50 pm (China) he will be talking to the CEO of the company.
The CEO is his friend so he might make us a huge discount for it, but we will also support him with the bounty we raised if it is needed.
They will use Tranzium's code, so they won't start from zero.


The development team
From now, loljosh, Polzki and I (Templar77) will have predominant roll in the development of this coin.
I personally don’t have anything to hide; I say this because Iconic Expert things he can attack me publishing my personal information.
My personal Information is easily acquired because I as I mentioned I have nothing to hide. My name is Carlos from Mexico and I am a Economics and Political Science student but I am also a self-taught person in programming. It’s just information that you can easily google.

Proof-of-ownership
I own 312,000 Libertycoins which I bought with my own money in various moments, some of them even when XLB was trading at 600 satoshi. I have moved 300,000 coins to the address below:
LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
I show you that so you know how much I believe in this coin. I’m not planning to ‘dump’ any time soon. I’ll keep the coins in that address, and I don’t plan to move them for I’m a terrible trader.

Scam accusations
In recent days, a thread was made saying Libertycoin is a scam coin, but that, of couse, lacks of any logic or fundament.
-Libertycoin was pre-announced almost two days it was launched, so it was not ‘ninja-launched’.
-Libertycoin didn’t have a single premined block.
-Libertycoin was mined for four days.
-The network reached almost 80 Gh/s which means thousands of miners when mining.

I own a miner with 200 Kh/s so if I own Libertycoin is because I bought them. I have the right to buy any coin I want and make use of it in any way. I this case I invested in Libertycoin because I believe in it as a long term investment. I have provided you my address, so you can ‘monitor’ it if you like.

The future
As I mentioned above I believe in Libertycoin as a long term investment, for that reason I have the following projects planned.
Liberty Labs
In a couple of days, I will be registering my startup that will be dedicated to create and offer services for Libertycoin and Bitcoin, especially in Latin America.
Liberator operation
I am planning to set up ATMs in Mexico City using the machines from http://projectskyhook.com . This ATMs will work both for Bitcoin and Libertycoin. This ‘operation’ should bring a lot of attention from the media for these will first ATMs in Mexico City, and Libertycoin will be one of the few altcoins that have this kind of infrastructure.
In the future, I could ‘deploy’ more ATMs in other countries such as Panama and Argentina.
Exchange
The other thing I’ve been working for months, is to create a Bitcoin/FIAT exchange for Mexico. I have got all the legal stuff done but the ‘platform’ is still under developments and should be launching in less than 3 months. I’m planning to add Libertycoin to this project as well.

My vision of cryptocurrency and Libertycoin
Many people may have problems with my ideology/vision of cryptocurrencies. I describe myself as a Libertarian and maybe a crypto anarchist. I believe in total decentralization, so I usually struggle with the concept of ‘dev tem’ taking care of absolutely everything in a coin.
I hate when people blame the ‘dev team’ for a given price in the market. It’s not the job of a dev to care about the price. If the price falls is not our fault or our job to make it rise. That’s just pump and dump coins behavior. I cannot type sudo apt-get price $1 and make the price rise. It’s a free market. If you want a coin’s price to rise you have to work for it and not just depend on the ‘dev team’.


Many people struggle with idea:
I do not thing that what people call ‘innovation’ is needed for a coin to succeed. It only needs hard work, a good name, time and a good community.
Litecoin is the proof of that. It is just a copy of Tenebrix and Fairbrix with no innovations at all and yet it stands as the second biggest cryptocurrency.
We can say the same for Dogecoin, Zetacoin, Feathercoin, and many others.
Even Blackcoin is just a copy of Novacoin with just simple tweaks. It provides no innovation at all.
Darkcoin is another good example, it was not the first anonymous coin and they don’t even delivered what they promised: a decentralized anon feature. It’s totally centralized.
In my opinion, name is king. With a name like ‘Libertycoin’ we should be able to have more success than coins like Darkcoin. ‘Real life’ businesses will never say “Darkcoin acceted here’. They will rather prefer more friendly names.
We will implement anonymity because the community asked for it, but I don’t believe it’s primordial for Libertycoin to succed.


Templar77



I believe you and still believing in libertycoin
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May 28, 2014, 02:59:35 AM
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STOP WITH EVERYTHING ABOUT IE ITS DONE AND OVER WITH. LIBERTYCOIN , we gotta talk about it sometime.

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May 28, 2014, 03:01:11 AM
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Patient less follower of XLB should leave this thread.
All useless followers DUMP their coins.

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May 28, 2014, 03:06:19 AM
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Libertycoin Chinese QQ group is welcome to come to discuss particular number is 196124814 authors Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Please add the group to discuss Wink
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May 28, 2014, 03:08:49 AM
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Patient less follower of XLB should leave this thread.
All useless followers DUMP their coins.

XLB to dead
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May 28, 2014, 03:12:38 AM
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Honestly nothing changed about the coin except one nut case went crazy and had 1000 followers..

Unless it was 100% based on him and the full thing was pumped by him.. It may recover a bit in time..

Really depending on the community and the devs to decide..
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May 28, 2014, 03:13:59 AM
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Come back ie,we need you. I buy xlb at 14000
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May 28, 2014, 03:18:02 AM
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Libertycoin Chinese QQ group is welcome to come to discuss particular number is 196124814 authors Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Please add the group to discuss Wink
Welcome the arrival
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May 28, 2014, 03:26:25 AM
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To my troll friends from BC. Your ever burning hate consumes you and it shows. Get over it, BC is my past. Following me around a forum is not going to bring you closure, it just shows how needy you are for resolution. Each time you hold and use your BC cards you are holding something I created and it pisses you off. I will always be a part of BC whether you like it or not so the joke is on you


Trolls for XLB. People were only here supporting this coin because I was here, period. When I left, they all left. This coin is dead and anyone buying XLB is either stupid and/or greedy. There will not be a comeback or a resurrection because the dev never intended for this coin to succeed. We were ALL scammed including me, and now I will move on.



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Yep I sold my large stash and moved on. Done with this coin cause developer is scammer and also turned on IE and opened the flood gates to the BC foundation losers.
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Last edit: May 28, 2014, 03:37:29 AM by Boomslang
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Honestly nothing changed about the coin except one nut case went crazy and had 1000 followers..

Unless it was 100% based on him and the full thing was pumped by him.. It may recover a bit in time..

Really depending on the community and the devs to decide..
Everything has changed.

The so-called "community" is confusing Liberty with Freedom.  Yes, there is a big difference between them.

Liberty does not mean "do whatever you want".

The concept of Freedom implies unrestricted movement and actions regardless of boundaries, but the concept of Liberty implies restrictions on actions because of boundaries.

Liberty is not Anarchy either.

Anarchy does not mean without rules, but is a philosophy and social system without rulers.

These fundamental differences in the language are critical.

Libertycoin isn't Liberty.  

It has become, in 12 hours, "Anarchycoin", or "Freedomcoin" because the community refuses to acknowledge that boundaries and rules are required for Liberty and Libertycoin to work.

You may as well call it "Wibblecoin" - it means about the same now that Libertycoin has imploded.

Liberty requires control at a personal level which is sorely lacking from many individuals posting in this thread.
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Libertycoin Chinese QQ group is welcome to come to discuss particular number is 196124814 authors Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Please add the group to discuss Wink

welcome
We have come together to put the author's JJ mowed
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what's up with the coin, price is dumping

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what's up with the coin, price is dumping

[Draft]
Official Statement regarding the event occurred today and the future of Libertycoin

What happened?
This morning (CST), one of our members changed the password of the Bitcointalk account. A few hours after that, we got a message from Iconic Expert threatening to fork Libertycoin and start a new thread because we had changed the password. Obviously, that sounded nuts. After that, he joined the IRC channel where I (Templar77) already had been for a few hours. He said he was trying to work for Libertycoin but I was always in his way. I asked him what was the problem, but he never answered that. I even told him that I still wanted to collaborate with him, but he said he was done with Libertycoin and he left.
After that, the price plumbed to from 12k satoshi to 5k satoshi.

How Iconic Expert got involved in Libertycoin
We gave him access to the Bitcointalk account almost a week ago. His task was to ‘promote’ Libertycoin. When we received him we were not well informed of what he had done in the Blackcoin community.
All the week when he was involved our thread was flooded with attacks against him. In the beginning, we didn’t give much importance to those posts for we thought it was coming from trolls, but days passed and the attacks against him never stopped, so we decided to investigate more about him.

Iconic Expert
Christopher Bouzy, aka Iconic Expert, received Blackcoin donations to ‘make’ an event in Wall Street, but then he cancelled it and never gave back the money to the people. Basically, he said he was leaving Blackcoin and launching his own coin, but never returned the money.
We have confirmed so far that he uses other ‘proxy’ accounts, like Barabbas, to post in Bitcointalk and Twitter.

The price fall
So what has changed in Libertycoin? Nothing, Libertycoin is the same coin that was yesterday, and the day before, so there is really no reason for a reduction in the price. Libertycoin is now stronger because we got rid of a known scammer.
We obviously do not have all the answers for what caused the price fall, but we can say it is very likely that Iconic Expert dumping all his coins and all the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) he caused with his ‘proxy’ accounts.
Iconic Expert bough in probably around 1,000 – 2,000 satoshi so he probably had a big amount of coins.

Anonymity
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (past)
As you might now, we offered a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB to implement any kind of anonymity in the Libertycoin protocol. Almost a week ago, Tranzium and others started developing it. A standalone version was set up here: http://cosmiclottery.com/libertycoin/
Around two days ago, we received an email from the team working on that implementation saying they could not finish the work because they were struggling to implement it into the wallet/daemon, so we keep waiting for them and finish it while finding someone else to do the job.
Libertycoin Anonymity Development (today)
Today Polzki contacted us with a possible solution. He says he knows the CEO of a programming company in China, so they can help us develop a new and innovative anonymity function for the Libertycoin protocol.
The website of the company: http://www.synv.com/
At 1:50 pm (China) he will be talking to the CEO of the company.
The CEO is his friend so he might make us a huge discount for it, but we will also support him with the bounty we raised if it is needed.
They will use Tranzium's code, so they won't start from zero.


The development team
From now, loljosh, Polzki and I (Templar77) will have predominant roll in the development of this coin.
I personally don’t have anything to hide; I say this because Iconic Expert things he can attack me publishing my personal information.
My personal Information is easily acquired because I as I mentioned I have nothing to hide. My name is Carlos from Mexico and I am a Economics and Political Science student but I am also a self-taught person in programming. It’s just information that you can easily google.

Proof-of-ownership
I own 312,000 Libertycoins which I bought with my own money in various moments, some of them even when XLB was trading at 600 satoshi. I have moved 300,000 coins to the address below:
LZ2suWZw4RoCVT4amdUJRzu4pLawnfQEjR
I show you that so you know how much I believe in this coin. I’m not planning to ‘dump’ any time soon. I’ll keep the coins in that address, and I don’t plan to move them for I’m a terrible trader.

Scam accusations
In recent days, a thread was made saying Libertycoin is a scam coin, but that, of couse, lacks of any logic or fundament.
-Libertycoin was pre-announced almost two days it was launched, so it was not ‘ninja-launched’.
-Libertycoin didn’t have a single premined block.
-Libertycoin was mined for four days.
-The network reached almost 80 Gh/s which means thousands of miners when mining.

I own a miner with 200 Kh/s so if I own Libertycoin is because I bought them. I have the right to buy any coin I want and make use of it in any way. I this case I invested in Libertycoin because I believe in it as a long term investment. I have provided you my address, so you can ‘monitor’ it if you like.

The future
As I mentioned above I believe in Libertycoin as a long term investment, for that reason I have the following projects planned.
Liberty Labs
In a couple of days, I will be registering my startup that will be dedicated to create and offer services for Libertycoin and Bitcoin, especially in Latin America.
Liberator operation
I am planning to set up ATMs in Mexico City using the machines from http://projectskyhook.com . This ATMs will work both for Bitcoin and Libertycoin. This ‘operation’ should bring a lot of attention from the media for these will first ATMs in Mexico City, and Libertycoin will be one of the few altcoins that have this kind of infrastructure.
In the future, I could ‘deploy’ more ATMs in other countries such as Panama and Argentina.
Exchange
The other thing I’ve been working for months, is to create a Bitcoin/FIAT exchange for Mexico. I have got all the legal stuff done but the ‘platform’ is still under developments and should be launching in less than 3 months. I’m planning to add Libertycoin to this project as well.

My vision of cryptocurrency and Libertycoin
Many people may have problems with my ideology/vision of cryptocurrencies. I describe myself as a Libertarian and maybe a crypto anarchist. I believe in total decentralization, so I usually struggle with the concept of ‘dev tem’ taking care of absolutely everything in a coin.
I hate when people blame the ‘dev team’ for a given price in the market. It’s not the job of a dev to care about the price. If the price falls is not our fault or our job to make it rise. That’s just pump and dump coins behavior. I cannot type sudo apt-get price $1 and make the price rise. It’s a free market. If you want a coin’s price to rise you have to work for it and not just depend on the ‘dev team’.


Many people struggle with idea:
I do not thing that what people call ‘innovation’ is needed for a coin to succeed. It only needs hard work, a good name, time and a good community.
Litecoin is the proof of that. It is just a copy of Tenebrix and Fairbrix with no innovations at all and yet it stands as the second biggest cryptocurrency.
We can say the same for Dogecoin, Zetacoin, Feathercoin, and many others.
Even Blackcoin is just a copy of Novacoin with just simple tweaks. It provides no innovation at all.
Darkcoin is another good example, it was not the first anonymous coin and they don’t even delivered what they promised: a decentralized anon feature. It’s totally centralized.
In my opinion, name is king. With a name like ‘Libertycoin’ we should be able to have more success than coins like Darkcoin. ‘Real life’ businesses will never say “Darkcoin acceted here’. They will rather prefer more friendly names.
We will implement anonymity because the community asked for it, but I don’t believe it’s primordial for Libertycoin to succed.


Templar77



I believe you and still believing in libertycoin
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