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May 31, 2014, 03:27:28 PM Last edit: May 31, 2014, 03:46:51 PM by Boomslang |
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Taking investing advice from a newbie account is just plain stupid.
Agreed! I am not advising anyone to invest in anything. That is your own risk. Do your research and invest accordingly. Decisions need to be made following some key principles though - principles that have been around for hundreds of years and is the foundation on which all monetary trade is conducted. Post #6197When things go a bit wrong, in order to protect the future, damage limitation is required. Post #6034 #6035When you have a public forum, you must not let people post disgraceful comments or send despicable emails. Post #6090Knowledge and understanding, controlled media output, decency, honesty, awareness, trust - all of these need to be taken into consideration when deciding where to invest. Boomslang, I'm sure I could annoy you with some truth, but I'm not going to preach to you. You seem sure of yourself as to what people shouldn't do. How sure are you about what people should do? If your just using your time, now, for the well being of us, why don't you give something positive and tell people what they should do. So, what should we do? Where should we invest?
Before you start throwing your money around hoping for a quick buck, gain knowledge and insight as to what you are investing in first. I nearly lost a lot of money on Libertycoin, but time invested in educating myself saved me. Until you are prepared for the highs and lows, it is probably best to invest your money in tangible things - food, clothing, education and your health. There are greater rewards from paying for a meal for your friends than shouting "I Pwned you" in an FPS.
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May 31, 2014, 03:50:28 PM |
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The people you're trying to protect need direction. The protection is in the direction. I asked you where should we invest and you say you're not advising anyone to invest in anything. However, you are advising people to not invest in something. So, you are giving investment advice. There's a lot of risk in every investment. If people always played it safe they would never invest or do anything for that matter. And without doing anything, how safe would they be? So if you want to be a leader, lead people in a direction. If you don't want to be a leader then just let them walk off the cliff. They will at least learn something. There is also a possibility, however slim it may be, that you are wrong, and they will make a lot of money. Who knows, if not you? Conclusion: if you won't direct, I guess they'll have to find there own direction, but don't block the path.
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May 31, 2014, 04:01:17 PM |
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Just because someone directs you away from a known danger, it doesnt mean it is their responsibility to lead you to riches.
You should just be thankful that he isn't just letting you walk blindly into ruin.
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acseric
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May 31, 2014, 04:07:44 PM |
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I think if boomslang knew about a better option, he would tell you. The problem is, that cryptocurrencies are more like lottery tickets than investments. Throwing all of your money into 1 ticket isnt the best strategy. Perhaps buying a bunch of different tickets (coins) is a better way to go. Or, look to the people (the developers, community, etc) to give you confidence. The community here is great, but the developer is not. look for a great community with a good developer. That is a safer bet.
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May 31, 2014, 04:09:06 PM |
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May 31, 2014, 04:13:57 PM |
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The people you're trying to protect need direction. The protection is in the direction. I asked you where should we invest and you say you're not advising anyone to invest in anything. However, you are advising people to not invest in something. So, you are giving investment advice. There's a lot of risk in every investment. If people always played it safe they would never invest or do anything for that matter. And without doing anything, how safe would they be? So if you want to be a leader, lead people in a direction. If you don't want to be a leader then just let them walk off the cliff. They will at least learn something. There is also a possibility, however slim it may be, that you are wrong, and they will make a lot of money. Who knows, if not you? Conclusion: if you won't direct, I guess they'll have to find there own direction, but don't block the path.
No I am not. My posts were responses to official statements by the devs or outraged responses to mindless, viscious posts. I tried to stop the damage. I tried to bring decency back to Libertycoin. I tried to explain to people what it really means when large proportions of a monetary system are held in deposit accounts and is not in circulation, hoping for a price rise that cannot come until circulation occurs. It is in the hands of the devs to manage the output and direction of Libertycoin, not the community, not fudders, not fanboyz and not rational investors. The one person who was trying to do this management is no longer involved. However, up until his exit, everything was positive about Libertycoin and people put their money into it. After the split, the management of media and forum output was non-existant. The explosion of filth, hatred, malicious posts, death threats, threats of rape and murder were not controlled. I am taking no-ones side. Imagine the affect on prices if a major company's management imploded in public. They do their in-fighting in private as they know that public outrage can irrecoverably damage both a brand and the people involved with it. Why do you think such things as NDA's exist? (Non-Disclosure Agreements). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
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mistersushi
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May 31, 2014, 04:17:06 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
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May 31, 2014, 04:17:45 PM |
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This is exactly what boomslang was talking about. You sure P0wnd him, playa!
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mistersushi
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May 31, 2014, 04:19:28 PM |
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This is exactly what boomslang was talking about. You sure P0wnd him, playa! Boomslang is another blowhard who needs a tic-tac real bad.
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May 31, 2014, 04:20:53 PM |
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It is in the hands of the devs to manage the output and direction of Libertycoin, not the community, not fudders, not fanboyz and not rational investors. The one person who was trying to do this management is no longer involved.
Libertycoin is an open source project and centralization is against crypto's principles. I do not recall Satoshi Nakamoto managing the direction of Bitcoin. Let me change your sentence to how I see it: It is not in the hands of the devs to manage the output and direction of Libertycoin, it's in the hands of the community.
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May 31, 2014, 04:21:01 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both.
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May 31, 2014, 04:24:26 PM |
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It is in the hands of the devs to manage the output and direction of Libertycoin, not the community, not fudders, not fanboyz and not rational investors. The one person who was trying to do this management is no longer involved.
Libertycoin is an open source project and centralization is against crypto's principles. I do not recall Satoshi Nakamoto managing the direction of Bitcoin. Let me change your sentence to how I see it: It is not in the hands of the devs to manage the output and direction of Libertycoin, it's in the hands of the community.The problem with that statement is that 99% of the community is incapable of improving the code and technology of the coin. That is what the developer is supposed to do (or at least facilitate) The community can promote, and do all of the other stuff. there are hundreds of Open Source coins with no strong developers (cut and pasted from other open source coins) In order to succeed, coins need both a strong community and a strong developer. Without both, there is only failure.
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May 31, 2014, 04:26:15 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both. Like I said, bringing him on was a mistake. They were momentarily conned by a con-artist. In a year it won't matter.
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May 31, 2014, 04:31:22 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both. Like I said, bringing him on was a mistake. They were momentarily conned by a con-artist. In a year it won't matter. They handled that removal in an incompetent manner. They have handled questions and concerns with heavy handed censorship. They have been uneven and contradictory with their communication. They have hidden behind the concept of liberty - a concept that has been used throughout history to both inflame passions for good and to take advantage of those whose passions are inflamed by the word.
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May 31, 2014, 04:39:10 PM |
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Ah nice fit Published bad here EXCHANGE start dumping
What do you want? After pressure from cheap to buy?
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May 31, 2014, 04:40:40 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both. Like I said, bringing him on was a mistake. They were momentarily conned by a con-artist. In a year it won't matter. They handled that removal in an incompetent manner. They have handled questions and concerns with heavy handed censorship. They have been uneven and contradictory with their communication. They have hidden behind the concept of liberty - a concept that has been used throughout history to both inflame passions for good and to take advantage of those whose passions are inflamed by the word. If i made some coin i would also made heavy cencurship..this forum has became just filled like blsh like you doing now..ok you posted about IE so DOES NOT NEED TO REPEAT IT IN 1424124124 POSTS. Insted off doing something good this forum has became tools for day traiders ..they sell and come here to post apocalypse so that all othere to sell..when they buy then their gone until they sell again
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May 31, 2014, 04:43:31 PM |
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The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both. Like I said, bringing him on was a mistake. They were momentarily conned by a con-artist. In a year it won't matter. They handled that removal in an incompetent manner. They have handled questions and concerns with heavy handed censorship. They have been uneven and contradictory with their communication. They have hidden behind the concept of liberty - a concept that has been used throughout history to both inflame passions for good and to take advantage of those whose passions are inflamed by the word. How would you have handled the removal? The one doing the most heavy-handed censorship was IE--who of course, later cried when his useless spam was deleted. I think the communication could be a little better, but I don't understand why some people need so much hand-holding. People need to learn to think and discern for themselves. Obvious bullshitters and blowhards are obvious.
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May 31, 2014, 04:45:39 PM |
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Ah nice fit Published bad here EXCHANGE start dumping
What do you want? After pressure from cheap to buy?
The dev's mistake was bringing on IE in the first place. The guy is a liar, a swindler, and a fraud. The only reputation that was ruined was his and those of his fanboy shills.
The dev knew what IE was, and brought him in anyway (it was public knowlege - if he didnt know, he was negligent or didnt care) IE, IE's people and the general community were all the victims of the Developer. Sure, you can be happy that a known scammer got his due (IE), but you can then look to the developer and his actions since then and judge him accordingly. The way it looks from the outside is that he is either incompetent or malicious or both. Like I said, bringing him on was a mistake. They were momentarily conned by a con-artist. In a year it won't matter. They handled that removal in an incompetent manner. They have handled questions and concerns with heavy handed censorship. They have been uneven and contradictory with their communication. They have hidden behind the concept of liberty - a concept that has been used throughout history to both inflame passions for good and to take advantage of those whose passions are inflamed by the word. If i made some coin i would also made heavy cencurship..this forum has became just filled like blsh like you doing now..ok you posted about IE so DOES NOT NEED TO REPEAT IT IN 1424124124 POSTS. Insted off doing something good this forum has became tools for day traiders ..they sell and come here to post apocalypse so that all othere to sell..when they buy then their gone until they sell again I think you guys nailed it!
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May 31, 2014, 04:48:08 PM |
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Boomslang, Well all of your negativity has worked. Congratulations. The value of the coin has plummeted again. You protected the people on that one. Now anyone invested has lost value again. Thank you.
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May 31, 2014, 04:52:43 PM |
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Boomslang, Well all of your negativity has worked. Congratulations. The value of the coin has plummeted again. You protected the people on that one. Now anyone invested has lost value again. Thank you.
Why are you encouraging him? His self-esteem probably just shot through the roof.
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