[ANN][CRYPT] CryptCoin x11 + PoS | P2P Anonymity | 0% Premine | Commander

[Bobsurplus]

This thread: full of FUDs

Starting with the very first post!

So true!

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[jacoo]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

Investing in CRYPT is much much better business then your 5:1

ok 50:1

Willing to bet now???

Nah - you better buy more CRYPT instead of gambling

[AlexGR]

It seems to me that bad guys behind others coins like DRK and BC want to destroy this amazing coin.  

Screw dark and BC but at least DRK has been honestly trying and just hyping with BS and deleting any analysis of their concept like crypt coin has done (http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptCoin/comments/28e8be/security_analysis_of_cryptcoins_cryptcast_feature/)

Do you have any link to the analysis of their (DRK) concept?

To the best of my knowledge:

Dark uses modified coinjoin with game theory addition.

Plain coinjoin with blind signatures is problematic in DOS scenarios as the attacker can't be punished and the transactions halt forever (that was the first DarkSend implementation back in February). It's also problematic in that inputs / outputs can be co-related as recently evidenced.

DarkSend uses non-blind signing (the node knows what is being transacted) to solve the DoS issue (attacker penalized by losing transaction collateral) but it represents a regression (probably temporary) in terms of anonymity. To solve the mapping-the-transactions issue, two layers have been proposed.

1) make the nodes expensive to acquire, otherwise a bad actor could flood the network with his nodes and map everything (1000 DRK requirement to buy a node). As more nodes are acquired price goes up and creates a positive feedback loop that escalates the price even more. Thus the bad actor will the require immense capital to acquire the vast majority of the nodes.

2) multiple DarkSends through the nodes. In this way even if a bad actor controls 40% of the network nodes, 5 darksends reduce the problem to 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 x 0.4 = 1% to get a mapped transaction. IF you do it 10 times even more.

As for (2) an anonymity upgrade plans to replace the necessity for multiple darksends (undisclosed details)

To solve the issue of coinjoin input-output matching, DRK uses a homogenizing denomination pool of 10 coins where all inputs are 10. The plan was to use multiple denomination pools (1-10-100-1000 etc) but there is a problem encountered in the need to send more coins. Imagine if you want to send 600 coins and you need to input 1000 coins. So the denomination pools will be redesigned to account for that issue or dealt with another way.

Problems pending for fix are

a) Change can still be linked for common ownership. This is planned to be fixed in upcoming RCs (denominated change or something like that)
b) Strong IP obfuscation has to be merged (I2P) otherwise network broadcasts betray the user anyway
c) The 10 DRK limit of the denominating pool has to be lifted but at the same time preserve homogeneity of input or find an alternate way to deal with input/output matching.
d) Masternode payments (they get 20% of the mining income for providing the anonymity service / mixing) are glitching and presenting fork issues
e) A way to conceal who is transacting what must be found so that the Masternode doesn't know as a way to eliminate the need for multiple DarkSends which would bloat the blockchain.
f) Traffic on the network will have to increase when everything is done, so that mixing can occur - otherwise with no DarkSends there can be no mixing.
g) The code has to be reviewed by third parties to fix outstanding issues or security holes (later RCs)

Wow, thanks for your detailed answer. I will study this for sure. Where did you get such large amount of implementation details?

Let's just say I've read ~2000 pages of the DRK thread (I've been following DRK since late January).

[Shkembe]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

I've never said that. I don't believe it too. But I'll keep my 9k Crypt waiting for better price.  

[Bobsurplus]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

Investing in CRYPT is much much better business then your 5:1

ok 50:1

Willing to bet now???

Nah - you better buy more CRYPT instead of gambling

Nah bro, buying crypt is like throwing my btc away! I still cant believe nobody is willing to bet my 50:1 odds on btc-e listing crypt.. what happened to all the shills that were proclaiming crypt on btc-e tonight???

WHERE ARE THEY???

[Wasda]

Anyone who cant see that crypt is on a downwards trend is blind. I'm also willing to bet a fair amount of BTC that btc-e wont be adding crypt anytime soon let alone this evening.

SO I ASK, WHERE ARE ALL THE CONFIDENT PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THE BTC-E FUD, SHOW YOURSELVES AND PUT YOUR BTC WHEN YOUR MOUTH IS!

I would put my BTC...but made decision to buy more CRYPT instead  

I'll give you 5:1 odds!

I'm just trying to point out here how impossible it would be for crypt to be added to btc-e. Everyone here, who's been here more then a few months should know this by now!

Investing in CRYPT is much much better business then your 5:1

ok 50:1

Willing to bet now???

Nah - you better buy more CRYPT instead of gambling

Nah bro, buying crypt is like throwing my btc away! I still cant believe nobody is willing to bet my 50:1 odds on btc-e listing crypt.. what happened to all the shills that were proclaiming crypt on btc-e tonight???

WHERE ARE THEY???

what are you betting on ?

[Bobsurplus]

I bet that btc-e wont be adding crypt in the next 24 hours.

50:1 odds

[Wasda]

I bet that btc-e wont be adding crypt in the next 24 hours.

50:1 odds

I honestly don't think a decision will be made within 24hours. however, just a matter of time... But you sound so sure that BTC-e will not add the coin.. so why does it matter if 1day or 1week ? or even 1 month ? you said never ever.. ?

[litebtc]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

I will LOL so much when CRYPT will be on BTC-E knowing that there was a guy Bob who was eager to bet his family and house on the premise that CRYPT will never be listed on BTC-E  ....You will make my day , sir!

[Bobsurplus]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

I will LOL so much when CRYPT will be on BTC-E knowing that there was a guy Bob who was eager to bet his family and house on the premise that CRYPT will never be listed on BTC-E  ....You will make my day , sir!

I'll tattoo the logo for crypt on my body if it ever lands on btc-e

and to the poster above, I'll extend the bet.. how long you you like me to extend it by?

[3ham3]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

I will LOL so much when CRYPT will be on BTC-E knowing that there was a guy Bob who was eager to bet his family and house on the premise that CRYPT will never be listed on BTC-E  ....You will make my day , sir!

I'm amazed people think btc-e will accept this coin after all the bs that happened with it.

[Wasda]

So much for all these twat waffles on here claiming that it will be on there

What makes you think BTC-e would give any information to "twat waffles" like you?

What makes you think they would add a shit new coin like crypt and ignore older more established coins like darkcoin or doge.

You are a SHEEP!

Doge?!
Are you kidding?! What exactly offers dogecoin, what is new and what opportunities gives it to the community?

I'll take it that your primary language is not English, Doge has a community like no other, they have got more press then any crypto aside from bitcoin and have a a 30M market cap.

What the fuck does crypt have... a non working, non viewable anon feature which may come sooner or later. LMAO!

Tell me more about the coin not about the community...it seems that the primary language of it's author isn't English.

I wont be telling you anymore. All I can say is CRYPT will NEVER be on BTC-E. NEVER!

I will LOL so much when CRYPT will be on BTC-E knowing that there was a guy Bob who was eager to bet his family and house on the premise that CRYPT will never be listed on BTC-E  ....You will make my day , sir!

I'll tattoo the logo for crypt on my body if it ever lands on btc-e

and to the poster above, I'll extend the bet.. how long you you like me to extend it by?

To be fair, I'm willing to bet you within 1 week from today (I'm less-ing my chance , although i could say 1month.. but then it wouldnt be so fair with your 50:1 odss. and we all know how hard to get a coin on btce.)

I'm willing to accept your bet right now if we both send money to escrow. let me know.

[GamingUnleashed]

I can tell you now
#DOGE will never be on BTC-E
because they only acept 3 char Coins

#DRK will never be on BTC-e
because of the hidden Instamine block

And the reson for offering CPT as payment instead of BTC

worst case senario

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144158.0

no one wants to see 100 BTC destryed

[Uran0s]

Who cares about btc-e ? lol

[Wasda]

Who cares about btc-e ? lol

I really could care less if it gets on btc-e or not.. but I just couldn't pass on to such a sweet odds 50:1 ?? are you kidding me ?.. it's really like 50/50 chances here for a 50/1 odds fk

[pbremen01]

Who cares about btc-e ? lol

I really could care less if it gets on btc-e or not.. but I just couldn't pass on to such a sweet odds 50:1 ?? are you kidding me ?.. it's really like 50/50 chances here

50/50 chances for coming on btc-e? Do you think that 90 BTC bribe is enough after this fiasco?

[Wasda]

Who cares about btc-e ? lol

I really could care less if it gets on btc-e or not.. but I just couldn't pass on to such a sweet odds 50:1 ?? are you kidding me ?.. it's really like 50/50 chances here

50/50 chances for coming on btc-e? Do you think that 90 BTC bribe is enough after this fiasco?

I don't give a fuck

[raffern]

When the new anon wallet is released people will buy again. I will hold till then and take profit instead of selling for a ridiculous loss. I still have faith no matter what people write in here negative about it. There were also no hidden blocks and that's been proved by cryptofox himself and people are still buying so that's good enough for me 

[Bitcycle]

Who cares about btc-e ? lol

The only interesting thing btc-e brings to the table is possible CPT/USD.  Another place to trade CPT/BTC is uninteresting.

[Slipknot79]

And the ship goes down, you better be ready.