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i think one reason for the dropping price is that rev2 isn't really finished and problems are still fixed.
for the next release a closed group of beta testers should be testing the release before it is released to iron out the rough edges.
i think the release should also be in a state where it's possible to release clients for linux/mac/win at the same time.
i appreciate atcsecure's work and his fast fixes but i think most of the problem that arrised in the last week could have been fixed before the software was released by a closed group of beta testers.
I disagree. I don't think the price-decline has anything to do with it. I also think that this forum IS the closed group of beta testers. We are the beta testers and we should provide Dan with feedback. i don't think this is a closed group as everyone can read this thread and post on it. every software has bugs but the worst bugs should be fixed before it is released. we are still missing clients for mac and linux and this is something that shouldn't happen when a new revision is released imo Due to the nature of this code, I need real-world testing to identify any bugs and finalize the release as it is impossible to account for every use-case scenario, this has been my model since day #1... i didn't know that there was/is a closed group of testers, but a release that includes a linux/mac client is important imo, at least as long as XC isn't opensource
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atcsecure
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September 21, 2014, 08:22:15 PM |
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i think one reason for the dropping price is that rev2 isn't really finished and problems are still fixed.
for the next release a closed group of beta testers should be testing the release before it is released to iron out the rough edges.
i think the release should also be in a state where it's possible to release clients for linux/mac/win at the same time.
i appreciate atcsecure's work and his fast fixes but i think most of the problem that arrised in the last week could have been fixed before the software was released by a closed group of beta testers.
I disagree. I don't think the price-decline has anything to do with it. I also think that this forum IS the closed group of beta testers. We are the beta testers and we should provide Dan with feedback. i don't think this is a closed group as everyone can read this thread and post on it. every software has bugs but the worst bugs should be fixed before it is released. we are still missing clients for mac and linux and this is something that shouldn't happen when a new revision is released imo Due to the nature of this code, I need real-world testing to identify any bugs and finalize the release as it is impossible to account for every use-case scenario, this has been my model since day #1... i didn't know that there was/is a closed group of testers, but a release that includes a linux/mac client is important imo, at least as long as XC isn't opensource I agree, and the original plan was to have those out this weekend, but until this final issue is resolved that is on hold
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cryptico
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September 21, 2014, 08:25:03 PM |
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Thx Always on point.. I did not know that there was a close group of testers before the release either.. and I think that seeing the scope of this tek hick ups are to be expected in the beginning.
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atcsecure
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September 21, 2014, 08:58:59 PM |
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Thx Always on point.. I did not know that there was a close group of testers before the release either.. and I think that seeing the scope of this tek hick ups are to be expected in the beginning.
There is NO OTHER coin that takes privacy to this level, the decentralized trustless solution is far more complex than anything else available today - Your not just mixing with a single xnode, your mixing across an adhoc mesh network of xnodes[both autonodes and real users] at the same time.. So the complexities of the system have brought up some issues, which are being resolved in the next update Dan
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Mountaingoat
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September 21, 2014, 09:05:56 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me?
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atcsecure
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September 21, 2014, 09:22:00 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan
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September 21, 2014, 09:27:03 PM |
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This pertains to Dan's comments above: Some info on today's release, just for clarity:
- We will release the "coinjoin killer", with which we finalise XC's privacy tech, on schedule.
- As with all prior releases of new tech, you can expect updates after the release as we get feedback from you all. Testing in the wild is integral to any successful software. If you encounter an issue, let us know.
We were clear on release day that what's happening now is part of the plan. All is on track. Anyone who thinks that there's some kind of problem has misunderstood how XC is bringing its tech to maturity. For the record, every big release has been the first time a piece of tech is made public, not the finished product. After the release we fine-tune things. It's as simple as that. When we launch publicly things will need to work 100%. Before at day, XC is in development, and this is how releases will work.
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September 21, 2014, 09:29:10 PM |
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I've been reading up on XC and it looks solid - I bought my first 200 XC yesterday and today (woohoo!). One thing I haven't been able to figure out: if I accumulate 1000 XC and create an Xmixer, will I lose my ability to stake and only collect Xmixer fees? Or can I both stake and act as an Xmixer? If I have to choose between running an Xmixer or stake, which do y'all think is more profitable? Thanks XCers (goats ?)! at the moment staking is more profitable until the mixers fees are fined tuned...anyway yep you will have to choose one or the other for the moment That answers my question - thanks! The goat thing started as a joke and actually still is a joke, but I think because I have been with XC(and my name is Mountaingoat) for a while now and goats are just funny in general people started using them as the official unnoficial mascot of XC. Here is the post I made about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630547.msg8864030#msg8864030I am not a part of the XC team btw. Goats are indeed funny - I fully support the goat logo i think a goat has no connections to XC at all and wouldn't be a good decision branding wise. one better animal than a goat would be a cameleon, as it is hard to spot like the private transactions. That is true, but the only funny thing they have going for them is their wacky eyes. But we want to create a system that attracts investors and not childs so it doesn't have to be funny imo +1 Jokes aside. please keep this thread professional goat and XC image don't go well together. XC is serious business, not meant to be a joke.
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September 21, 2014, 09:33:19 PM |
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Thx Always on point.. I did not know that there was a close group of testers before the release either.. and I think that seeing the scope of this tek hick ups are to be expected in the beginning.
There is NO OTHER coin that takes privacy to this level, the decentralized trustless solution is far more complex than anything else available today - Your not just mixing with a single xnode, your mixing across an adhoc mesh network of xnodes[both autonodes and real users] at the same time.. So the complexities of the system have brought up some issues, which are being resolved in the next update Dan Your doing great work, Dan!! As a software developer myself, I can remotely imagine how difficult this piece of code must be you're working on. (especially debugging problems, since it has to work for the hole network and sometimes needs testing in 'the wild') So take your time.
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Mountaingoat
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September 21, 2014, 09:35:41 PM |
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I deleted an address from my address book and all my addresses disappeared besides the ones that I own and have some XC in them. It also removed an address that I made but had no XC in it.
I restarted the wallet to see if it was fixed and it was, but I still think this needs to be fixed in a future release.
After further investigation it seemed to be a one time thing, so it must have been me.
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Mountaingoat
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September 21, 2014, 10:03:22 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata.
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atcsecure
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September 21, 2014, 10:13:11 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. By default you, don't need one with XCurrency. You can create one and just put "maxconnections=64" no quotes
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September 21, 2014, 10:17:21 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. You have to create a config file. It isn't there originally. Here's a good guide on how to create a config file and what you can put in it. https://litecoin.info/Litecoin.confThis guide is for Litecoin, but it works similarly for all other alts that use the QT client. In the config file, you can specify some standard setting that you want your QT client to use. That's what it's for. You can create one from notepad and save it as a .conf file (select * all files when saving and save with .conf behind the file name)
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Mountaingoat
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September 21, 2014, 10:21:47 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. By default you, don't need one with XCurrency. You can create one and just put "maxconnections=64" no quotes Thanks. Did you read my PM btw?
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atcsecure
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September 21, 2014, 10:33:19 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. By default you, don't need one with XCurrency. You can create one and just put "maxconnections=64" no quotes Thanks. Did you read my PM btw? Yes, those items were added to the list, thank you :-)
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Mountaingoat
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September 21, 2014, 10:36:53 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. By default you, don't need one with XCurrency. You can create one and just put "maxconnections=64" no quotes Thanks. Did you read my PM btw? Yes, those items were added to the list, thank you :-) Oke, no problem.
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September 21, 2014, 10:57:27 PM |
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According to portcheckers.com, port 32348 is open and my Windows Firewall allows the XC app. Not sure if there is anything else I should be checking.... If you are on Windows can you try the following command in a cmd box? netstat -an | find "32348"It will show all in & out connections your wallet has. example from my own setup: (192.168.0.49 is my local ip) TCP 192.168.0.49:32348 178.221.54.98:62146 ESTABLISHED this is a connection to my wallet from the outside and this are some outgoing connections to other Xnode/Xmixers TCP 192.168.0.49:50000 81.82.165.203:32348 ESTABLISHED TCP 192.168.0.49:50079 78.108.54.193:32348 ESTABLISHED if you see no connections and only a line like this: TCP 0.0.0.0:32348 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING then you still have a firewall or nat problem Thanks for the additional check I can do! Unfortunately, I am still unable to send a private transaction (and therefore be a XMixer) even though it seems like port 32348 is working: After running "netstat -an | find "32348" i get one listening incoming connection: 0.0.0.0:32348 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING and 7 established outgoing connections: 192.168.1.8:58755 104.131.208.92:32348 ESTABLISHED 192.168.1.8:58757 101.131.207.232:32348 ESTABLISHED etc, etc. and a [::]:32348 [::]:0 LISTENING Anyone have any suggestions on what I'm missing/doing wrong? Thanks! ps. I'm connecting my laptop to a wireless hub that then goes to my ISP router. My internet connection only shows 1 router in my path to the internet though....
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cryptico
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September 21, 2014, 10:57:40 PM |
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I seem to not get more than 8 connections for some reason, how do I fix this?
Can anybody help me? If your using UNPNP then I believe this is the default setting, you can use -maxconnections=64 via startup (in your ,.conf file just use maxconnections=64) and configure your router to forward the port to your wallet IP address Dan Where can I find my config file? it isn't in my appdata. By default you, don't need one with XCurrency. You can create one and just put "maxconnections=64" no quotes Thanks. Did you read my PM btw? Yes, those items were added to the list, thank you :-) Oke, no problem. ahahah you got him mountain
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September 21, 2014, 11:42:18 PM |
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According to portcheckers.com, port 32348 is open and my Windows Firewall allows the XC app. Not sure if there is anything else I should be checking.... If you are on Windows can you try the following command in a cmd box? netstat -an | find "32348"It will show all in & out connections your wallet has. example from my own setup: (192.168.0.49 is my local ip) TCP 192.168.0.49:32348 178.221.54.98:62146 ESTABLISHED this is a connection to my wallet from the outside and this are some outgoing connections to other Xnode/Xmixers TCP 192.168.0.49:50000 81.82.165.203:32348 ESTABLISHED TCP 192.168.0.49:50079 78.108.54.193:32348 ESTABLISHED if you see no connections and only a line like this: TCP 0.0.0.0:32348 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING then you still have a firewall or nat problem Thanks for the additional check I can do! Unfortunately, I am still unable to send a private transaction (and therefore be a XMixer) even though it seems like port 32348 is working: After running "netstat -an | find "32348" i get one listening incoming connection: 0.0.0.0:32348 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING and 7 established outgoing connections: 192.168.1.8:58755 104.131.208.92:32348 ESTABLISHED 192.168.1.8:58757 101.131.207.232:32348 ESTABLISHED etc, etc. and a [::]:32348 [::]:0 LISTENING Anyone have any suggestions on what I'm missing/doing wrong? Thanks! ps. I'm connecting my laptop to a wireless hub that then goes to my ISP router. My internet connection only shows 1 router in my path to the internet though.... Think your router config is not ok, there should be at least one connection like: 192.168.1.8:32348 <other ip>:<50K port> edit: #1: did you tell your router to forward connections on the public port to your local ip-address? #2: a laptop over wifi can can get a new ip-adress on reboot after some time, maybe disable dhcp and go for a fixed local address
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September 21, 2014, 11:52:17 PM |
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Think your router config is not ok, there should be at least one connection like: 192.168.1.8:32348 <other ip>:<50K port>
I just ran netstat -an | find "32348" again and it looks like I got some of those: 192.168.1.8:32348 82.173.183.83:57349 ESTABLISHED 192.168.1.8:32348 another random IP:54190 ESTABLISHED 192.168.1.8:32348 another random IP:53454 ESTABLISHED I think it might be something with that wireless hub thing I got, but not sure what.... edit: I've made sure the local IP address in the port forwarding rule on my router page still applies to my laptop.
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