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May 30, 2014, 07:29:38 PM |
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It is a requirement to have a testnet block explorer especially when you are staking the whole entire coin on the promise of being anonymous.
To simply show a screenshot of "Unknown", and then have the dev refuse to show the explorer transaction is alarmingly scary.
I agree with this, regardless of whether this coin is genuine or not I am planning to dump all my coins somewhere between 400-500k then either buy back at a lower price or stay in BTC until I see some more evidence. I am fed up of the screenshots, lets get some real evidence here.
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atcsecure
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May 30, 2014, 07:30:02 PM |
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Definitely something fishy going on. As you can see the two addresses DO exist in the testnet, yet the transaction ID has magically disapeared after the post earlier. Though its possible the new tests are being conducted on a seperate `copied` blockchain from the original testnet, if this is true then I apologise for this post. And Im not trying to spread fud as I own 30k XC myself.
03:22:14  validateaddress mwcaGKQNeJGuaan2m1YQHfSoYJQV3ykiu5
03:22:14  { "isvalid" : true, "address" : "mwcaGKQNeJGuaan2m1YQHfSoYJQV3ykiu5", "ismine" : false }
03:22:49  validateaddress moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD
03:22:49  { "isvalid" : true, "address" : "moRnEx9drbUXfzmpWUTj2woMkv1mSTbAYD", "ismine" : false }
NO there is only 1 block chain or a fork
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evtrmm
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May 30, 2014, 07:30:50 PM |
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How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer? Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up. Let's just do it.
Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results" they need more than more if you give they more. It is a requirement to have a testnet block explorer especially when you are staking the whole entire coin on the promise of being anonymous. To simply show a screenshot of "Unknown", and then have the dev refuse to show the explorer transaction is alarmingly scary. Pretty sure nobody refused anything.
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Grifftech
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May 30, 2014, 07:31:26 PM |
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Can we get a block explorer for the testnet so we can shut these fucking idiots up already.
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atcsecure
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May 30, 2014, 07:31:57 PM |
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first thing, we all know this is not a finished product. period. it has been stated as such. Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you: I did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here. no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished. Troll on. So that picture is showing that this wallet was chosen for this mixed transaction This release is a only a test - as the plan was to fix up some key items and release in 3-4 weeks
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May 30, 2014, 07:32:55 PM |
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Can we get a block explorer for the testnet so we can shut these fucking idiots up already.
+1. i am fed up with those fucktards. sorry to break the rules. fucking idiots just slow down everything in schedule!
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evtrmm
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May 30, 2014, 07:33:41 PM |
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It is a requirement to have a testnet block explorer especially when you are staking the whole entire coin on the promise of being anonymous.
To simply show a screenshot of "Unknown", and then have the dev refuse to show the explorer transaction is alarmingly scary.
I agree with this, regardless of whether this coin is genuine or not I am planning to dump all my coins somewhere between 400-500k then either buy back at a lower price or stay in BTC until I see some more evidence. I am fed up of the screenshots, lets get some real evidence here. feel free. http://xc-official.com/release/make sure you run it with the .bat file setgenerate true. or we can teamview. Im in. gotta pick up my daughter in about 15 though, so hurry....
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Grifftech
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May 30, 2014, 07:33:46 PM |
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first thing, we all know this is not a finished product. period. it has been stated as such. Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you: http://bammine.com/images/node.JPGI did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here. no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished. Troll on. So that picture is showing that this wallet was chosen for this mixed transaction This release is a only a test - as the plan was to fix up some key items and release in 3-4 weeks All this has done has given the FUDers more fuel for the next 3-4 weeks now. Nothing should be released without hard evidence to substantiate the said functionality.
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atcsecure
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May 30, 2014, 07:34:19 PM |
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this must be fud - that can't be true, if it is, it will be so easyto patch the wallet and comment out the sending, in conclusion i'll recieve the coins from the one whos mixing but i will not send them to the destination and keep them -> easy stealing ...
the protocol will handle this, it won't be "Easy stealing" and yes there are bugs ,this is a test release
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atcsecure
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May 30, 2014, 07:35:43 PM |
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first thing, we all know this is not a finished product. period. it has been stated as such. Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you: I did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here. no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished. Troll on. So that picture is showing that this wallet was chosen for this mixed transaction This release is a only a test - as the plan was to fix up some key items and release in 3-4 weeks All this has done has given the FUDers more fuel for the next 3-4 weeks now. Nothing should be released without hard evidence to substantiate the said functionality. Seems no matter what - that there will be FUD...
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cryptico
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May 30, 2014, 07:36:26 PM |
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first thing, we all know this is not a finished product. period. it has been stated as such. Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you: I did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here. no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished. Troll on. So that picture is showing that this wallet was chosen for this mixed transaction This release is a only a test - as the plan was to fix up some key items and release in 3-4 weeks ATC price will plummet pretty badly if you keep this position... can you please articulate a bit more? Im fully invested in this coin and the last thing I want is people walking away scared dumping everything.
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JakeThePanda
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May 30, 2014, 07:36:32 PM |
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How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer? Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up. Let's just do it.
Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results" they need more than more if you give they more. It is a requirement to have a testnet block explorer especially when you are staking the whole entire coin on the promise of being anonymous. To simply show a screenshot of "Unknown", and then have the dev refuse to show the explorer transaction is alarmingly scary. Don't do that. You had me believing you were actually genuine for a second. Nobody refused anything. Now you look sketchy.
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cryptodruti
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May 30, 2014, 07:37:12 PM |
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so much manipulation, all those tiny sell orders are there to cause people to sell low.. whales real 20 btc buy order just got placed at 200k
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Grifftech
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May 30, 2014, 07:40:33 PM |
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first thing, we all know this is not a finished product. period. it has been stated as such.
Now the question of making a decentralized anon wallet was in question, so I give you:
I did not initiate this transaction, yet I saw it come through on my laptop here.
no matter what is said, The fact is that the developer is still here, he continues working on the project, and we are FAR from finished.
Troll on.
So that picture is showing that this wallet was chosen for this mixed transaction This release is a only a test - as the plan was to fix up some key items and release in 3-4 weeks All this has done has given the FUDers more fuel for the next 3-4 weeks now. Nothing should be released without hard evidence to substantiate the said functionality. Seems no matter what - that there will be FUD... Agreed, but let's not give them anything else they can spread FUD about. The troll box on Polo is "fake anon this", "copy and paste unknown" etc etc. Your intentions are good, you want people to see progress and that you are really working on something great. But they are just tearing apart what little is being handed out. Wait till you have something big and we can jam it down their fucking throats and watch them choke on their own bile.
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May 30, 2014, 07:40:58 PM |
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TC is the worse thing to happen to default, needs to open his eyes and not jump to conclusions, not everyone lies!!! Anyway as promised I have left, pass word changed to long random which I will forget like that plonker who ruined a perfectly fine account.
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atcsecure
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May 30, 2014, 07:41:34 PM |
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what is the question? User A wants to send to user B, instead the coins go to the XNODE - split across several transactions - that is what your seeing -
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megges
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May 30, 2014, 07:41:58 PM |
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this must be fud - that can't be true, if it is, it will be so easyto patch the wallet and comment out the sending, in conclusion i'll recieve the coins from the one whos mixing but i will not send them to the destination and keep them -> easy stealing ...
the protocol will handle this, it won't be "Easy stealing" and yes there are bugs ,this is a test release thanks for the answer - the first i ever get *thumbsup* so i will be waiting how this turns out, many people (like myself) will be trying to crack it, if it flows trough the own wallet that seems to be intresting, not saying it can't be secured, but i highly doubt it will be 100% trustless and secure if the coins are going trough a personal wallet.
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Grifftech
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May 30, 2014, 07:42:39 PM |
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what is the question? User A wants to send to user B, instead the coins go to the XNODE - split across several transactions - that is what your seeing - How did he then say all it does is replace it with "Unknown" out of that image?
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Propulsion
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May 30, 2014, 07:43:06 PM |
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Don't do that. You had me believing you were actually genuine for a second. Nobody refused anything. Now you look sketchy.
Fair enough. To post a screenshot of "Unknown" as proof is "sketchy" by itself. What raised alarms for me was when the dev responded "the data is already there." If there is only one testnet blockchain, it should be trivial for someone to create an Abe explorer for the testnet chain. This will either credit the anonymity or discredit it. Until then, it's easy to dispute if it's genuine or not.
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