[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[zythos]

Sorry guys . Can't vote yet. Still a newbie. As soon as i get my promotion that's the first thing that i will do.

[taylortyler]

There's no source code or white paper?

[FoldingTime]

Dan's seen both my router's ports open and my firewall exceptions to not only the program but also ports specific to the program. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you say it doesn't work for you either due to being on a university network? Regardless, it doesn't work for everyone and whether all the bugs are suppose to be out by 2.5 or 3.0, it should still be something to focus attention on for mass adoption. Hell, if it doesn't work on university networks, a large portion of the demographic (18-35) interested in crypto could have issues.

If it was human error, then it should have been something extremely easy to fix on any number of the remote sessions Dan and I had. The end result is private transfers do not go out to the network/nodes but regular incoming/outgoing is fine. Whether it does nothing due to having it set as unlock for staking only and entering passphrase on sends or unlocking completely before initiating and getting the error 101, it doesn't work. Dan said it definitely shouldn't be doing the 101 error.

To truly say it's working should mean works for everyone. 99% is not 100%, especially as more and more users are downloading wallets and wanting to try out features. Any regular Joe should be able to download the wallet and send anon transfers and that simply isn't the case in its current state.

Thanks

Even bitcoin-qt won't sync on a university network due to the firewall. I never found a way around that although I tried pretty hard - with a real live version of Dan. I imagine there would be issues with encryption and tor as well. (I'm afraid 18-35 year olds may have to pay for their own internet). I should add that depending on your network it may automatically flag peer-to-peer stuff as suspicious unless you add an exception. You should probably check. (Anyway I wouldn't class getting your crypto to work over university networks as regular Joe level.)

Edit: on the other hand if Dan can get the XC wallet to work automatically behind university firewalls - which maybe he can - then that would be big bonus.

I wonder if we can make a regular http port 80 type block sync where it just download the blockchain regularly without using any special RPC type call?  It won't necessarily work for private transaction immediately nor XChat, but at least you can get the latest blockchain info?

That might work so you could at least have the wallet functioning regardless of firewalls. That would be a big plus - I was imagining for the private stuff to behave like firefox when it adds exceptions - i.e. it figures out there's a firewall blocking it and brings up an option to add an exception. No idea if this is possible generally even - it would have to be able to access the relevant info about your system.      

Unless...  private transaction when it's multipath, can be packaged as non blockchain data that can be sent out through port 80 to nodes that other XNodes wallets can then download and relay it out as RPC?!??   Then... all wallets can be used regardless of if it's behind a firewall.   Of course, you will need XNodes that are not behind firewall to get those encrypted non RPC data and relay those out as RPC?    So, non firewalled XNode wallets can always help out those that are behind firewall  (non http port 80 blocked of course).

This sounds like a good solution, however, I would opt to go out on 443 as that would usually be open if 80 is open.  Tunnelling out on 443 is usually a good way to bypass firewalls.

[CryptoGretzky]

Dan's seen both my router's ports open and my firewall exceptions to not only the program but also ports specific to the program. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you say it doesn't work for you either due to being on a university network? Regardless, it doesn't work for everyone and whether all the bugs are suppose to be out by 2.5 or 3.0, it should still be something to focus attention on for mass adoption. Hell, if it doesn't work on university networks, a large portion of the demographic (18-35) interested in crypto could have issues.

If it was human error, then it should have been something extremely easy to fix on any number of the remote sessions Dan and I had. The end result is private transfers do not go out to the network/nodes but regular incoming/outgoing is fine. Whether it does nothing due to having it set as unlock for staking only and entering passphrase on sends or unlocking completely before initiating and getting the error 101, it doesn't work. Dan said it definitely shouldn't be doing the 101 error.

To truly say it's working should mean works for everyone. 99% is not 100%, especially as more and more users are downloading wallets and wanting to try out features. Any regular Joe should be able to download the wallet and send anon transfers and that simply isn't the case in its current state.

Thanks

Even bitcoin-qt won't sync on a university network due to the firewall. I never found a way around that although I tried pretty hard - with a real live version of Dan. I imagine there would be issues with encryption and tor as well. (I'm afraid 18-35 year olds may have to pay for their own internet). I should add that depending on your network it may automatically flag peer-to-peer stuff as suspicious unless you add an exception. You should probably check. (Anyway I wouldn't class getting your crypto to work over university networks as regular Joe level.)

Edit: on the other hand if Dan can get the XC wallet to work automatically behind university firewalls - which maybe he can - then that would be big bonus.

I wonder if we can make a regular http port 80 type block sync where it just download the blockchain regularly without using any special RPC type call?  It won't necessarily work for private transaction immediately nor XChat, but at least you can get the latest blockchain info?

That might work so you could at least have the wallet functioning regardless of firewalls. That would be a big plus - I was imagining for the private stuff to behave like firefox when it adds exceptions - i.e. it figures out there's a firewall blocking it and brings up an option to add an exception. No idea if this is possible generally even - it would have to be able to access the relevant info about your system.      

Unless...  private transaction when it's multipath, can be packaged as non blockchain data that can be sent out through port 80 to nodes that other XNodes wallets can then download and relay it out as RPC?!??   Then... all wallets can be used regardless of if it's behind a firewall.   Of course, you will need XNodes that are not behind firewall to get those encrypted non RPC data and relay those out as RPC?    So, non firewalled XNode wallets can always help out those that are behind firewall  (non http port 80 blocked of course).

This sounds like a good solution, however, I would opt to go out on 443 as that would usually be open if 80 is open.  Tunnelling out on 443 is usually a good way to bypass firewalls.

Ok, maybe I shouldn't have said port 80 for announcing a transaction, but all the common ports that usually won't be blocked, as long as we can send out that encrypted packet to the nodes.

[_evolution_]

It depends on the firewall settings. If it does not allow incoming connections on 80 / 443, then what's the point?! (Usually firewalls are set to allow only outgoing connections.)

[CryptoGretzky]

It depends on the firewall settings. If it does not allow incoming connections on 80 / 443, then what's the point?! (Usually firewalls are set to allow only outgoing connections.)

If you are behind a firewalled campus, then of
course you can't be a relay XNode.   That's where you need to
make a http request or post to a node to request for relay.

[braxx]

some spam for another coin

pls don't post any spam from another coin here

[SpringfieldM1A]

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-08/07/content_18269150.htm

"Users of instant messaging tools, including WeChat, must in future register with their real names and unlicensed public accounts are banned from publishing or forwarding political news, China's top cyber watchdog ordered on Thursday"

Market the heck out of Xchat, now

I retweet everything from XC official, but maybe some of our Chinese users could promote Xchat as well

[dadon]

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-08/07/content_18269150.htm

"Users of instant messaging tools, including WeChat, must in future register with their real names and unlicensed public accounts are banned from publishing or forwarding political news, China's top cyber watchdog ordered on Thursday"

Market the heck out of Xchat, now

I retweet everything from XC official, but maybe some of our Chinese users could promote Xchat as well

That could be huge for us if approached the right way!!
Thanks all for voting as well were moving up nicely, if you haven't voted, here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568166.0

[Astroxjr]

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-08/07/content_18269150.htm

"Users of instant messaging tools, including WeChat, must in future register with their real names and unlicensed public accounts are banned from publishing or forwarding political news, China's top cyber watchdog ordered on Thursday"

Market the heck out of Xchat, now

I retweet everything from XC official, but maybe some of our Chinese users could promote Xchat as well

That could be huge for us if approached the right way!!
Thanks all for voting as well were moving up nicely, if you haven't voted, here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568166.0

done

[policymaker]

who was our "official" chinese guy in here? who helped with translations, etc? He should be given more projects for sure

[SpringfieldM1A]

who was our "official" chinese guy in here? who helped with translations, etc? He should be given more projects for sure

I think it was Foreal, he posted the op in our Chinese thread here on btctalk.

[Lyricz]

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-08/07/content_18269150.htm

"Users of instant messaging tools, including WeChat, must in future register with their real names and unlicensed public accounts are banned from publishing or forwarding political news, China's top cyber watchdog ordered on Thursday"

Market the heck out of Xchat, now

I retweet everything from XC official, but maybe some of our Chinese users could promote Xchat as well

That could be huge for us if approached the right way!!
Thanks all for voting as well were moving up nicely, if you haven't voted, here is the link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568166.0

Can´t vote ;-/
-but sold a few XCR to by more XCs 

[infinitechaos]

Trying to send synechist a message and getting error message 'message encryption failed'.

No issues here.  Been chatting with multiple people.   Are you using RC3?

On what operating system? The issue can be reproduced on OS X only. Here are my details:

{
    "version" : "v0.9.2.47h.XCurrency-2.47",
    "protocolversion" : 71030,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "blocks" : 84742,
    "moneysupply" : 5522632.98602700,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 5205.79639598,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1405241968,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "unlocked_until" : 0,
    "errors" : ""
}

Hey, sorry, I was without internet for a couple days.

Yes, I am also running OSX, the latest version.

Has this been addressed yet? I saw someone else a page or two ago said they got theirs to work after getting this message.

[_evolution_]

Trying to send synechist a message and getting error message 'message encryption failed'.

No issues here.  Been chatting with multiple people.   Are you using RC3?

On what operating system? The issue can be reproduced on OS X only. Here are my details:

{
    "version" : "v0.9.2.47h.XCurrency-2.47",
    "protocolversion" : 71030,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "blocks" : 84742,
    "moneysupply" : 5522632.98602700,
    "connections" : 6,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 5205.79639598,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1405241968,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "unlocked_until" : 0,
    "errors" : ""
}

Hey, sorry, I was without internet for a couple days.

Yes, I am also running OSX, the latest version.

Has this been addressed yet? I saw someone else a page or two ago said they got theirs to work after getting this message.

I don't think the issue is fixed, still getting "message encryption failed" on OS X. I was wondering if CryptoGretzky is running XChat on OS X without issues.

[infinitechaos]

I don't think the issue is fixed, still getting "message encryption failed" on OS X. I was wondering if CryptoGretzky is running XChat on OS X without issues.

OK, this guy seems to have a working OSX wallet. Then again, my wallet works, it's just the XChat feature where I get this error message.

Well at least one fix happened. I now have a working OSX wallet, but I wasn't complaining about that every five minutes. Yes, it is still buggy, and yes I'm a patient adult.

[_evolution_]

I don't think the issue is fixed, still getting "message encryption failed" on OS X. I was wondering if CryptoGretzky is running XChat on OS X without issues.

OK, this guy seems to have a working OSX wallet. Then again, my wallet works, it's just the XChat feature where I get this error message.

Well at least one fix happened. I now have a working OSX wallet, but I wasn't complaining about that every five minutes. Yes, it is still buggy, and yes I'm a patient adult.

About OS X: I've never seen issues with the wallet itself, only the XChat but that's not a big concern, the tor stick works just fine.

[synechist]

Coinbuzz article on XChat!

 
http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/08/10/new-secure-chat-client-based-bitcoin-blockchain-xchat/



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[Teka]

Some of you raised some suggestions for the store so we decided to accept litecoin and bitcoin.

[PowderMonkey]

I would think that once the XC app is released for mobile devices, the issue with sending/receiving private transactions on restricted networks would be a non-issue. 3G, 4G, etc. are non-biased