[ANN] FIMK: 2.5G POS, extra block rewards, messaging, asset colors, p2p shopping

[Eliphaz Fimk]

It's boring to watch an empire being built brick by brick, yeah? Especially when the builders are so incredibly silent yet effective...

THE FIMKRYPTO MASTERPLAN                               August 31st, 2014
FIMKRYPTO PROJECT TIMELINE, 6-MONTH DEVELOPMENT ROADMAP

September 2014:
- [tech deployed] SMS short message payment gateway
- [tech deployed] mobile invoicing and SMS wallet
- [tech starting] Kryptoradio nationwide transaction broadcast begins
- [tech deployed] EUR asset exchange
- [tech deployed] community incentives automation (forum tipping & fund transfers)

October 2014:
- [operations commence] national basic income begins for opt-in citizens
- [tech starting] merchant gateway service with instant EUR conversion and billing
- [operations commence] merchant incentivization program
- [operations commence] "almost free" strong authentication of FIMK users to 3rd party service providers
 
November 2014
- [operations ongoing] merchant incentivization program
- [tech starting] Kryptoradio portable merchant device
- [tech deployed] Community client release with email and SMS payments
- Krypto FIN ry opening party for members

December 2014
- [operations commence] advertisement campaigns for FIMKrypto and national basic income
- [operations ongoing] merchant incentivization program

January 2015
- [tech starting] FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines

February 2015
- [tech starting] pre-paid FIMK debit cards

March 2015
- power campaign and incentives for converting fiat to FIMK - cash (ATM), EUR / USD (exchanges), Bitcoin / altcoins (exchanges), credit cards (exchanges / association), SMS messages (exchanges / association)

April 2015 -> ~ June 2018
- deployment of any pending services specified above
- maintenance and upgrades of the core services
- coordination for expansion of FIMKrypto domestic adoption through visibility and partnership campaigns
- driving international adoption and integration of other local cryptocurrencies with FIMKrypto system

Krypto FIN ry allocates outlay for each subproject in various phases on the go as required for successful completion. As a non-profit association, Krypto FIN ry is not obliged to produce profit on any particular subproject. (For sustainable development some projects are designed to produce profit.) It is thus expected that selected services are subsidized heavily from the initial donations amount received by the assocation from the FIMKrypto stakeholders.

[Hauberg81]

It's boring to watch an empire being built brick by brick, yeah? Especially when the builders are so incredibly silent yet effective...

THE FIMKRYPTO MASTERPLAN                               August 31st, 2014
FIMKRYPTO PROJECT TIMELINE, 6-MONTH DEVELOPMENT ROADMAP

September 2014:
- [tech deployed] SMS short message payment gateway
- [tech deployed] mobile invoicing and SMS wallet
- [tech starting] Kryptoradio nationwide transaction broadcast begins
- [tech deployed] EUR asset exchange
- [tech deployed] community incentives automation (forum tipping & fund transfers)

October 2014:
- [operations commence] national basic income begins for opt-in citizens
- [tech starting] merchant gateway service with instant EUR conversion and billing
- [operations commence] merchant incentivization program
- [operations commence] "almost free" strong authentication of FIMK users to 3rd party service providers
 
November 2014
- [operations ongoing] merchant incentivization program
- [tech starting] Kryptoradio portable merchant device
- [tech deployed] Community client release with email and SMS payments
- Krypto FIN ry opening party for members

December 2014
- [operations commence] advertisement campaigns for FIMKrypto and national basic income
- [operations ongoing] merchant incentivization program

January 2015
- [tech starting] FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines

February 2015
- [tech starting] pre-paid FIMK debit cards

March 2015
- power campaign and incentives for converting fiat to FIMK - cash (ATM), EUR / USD (exchanges), Bitcoin / altcoins (exchanges), credit cards (exchanges / association), SMS messages (exchanges / association)

April 2015 -> ~ June 2018
- deployment of any pending services specified above
- maintenance and upgrades of the core services
- coordination for expansion of FIMKrypto domestic adoption through visibility and partnership campaigns
- driving international adoption and integration of other local cryptocurrencies with FIMKrypto system

Krypto FIN ry allocates outlay for each subproject in various phases on the go as required for successful completion. As a non-profit association, Krypto FIN ry is not obliged to produce profit on any particular subproject. (For sustainable development some projects are designed to produce profit.) It is thus expected that selected services are subsidized heavily from the initial donations amount received by the assocation from the FIMKrypto stakeholders.

good developers need nxt , fimk has no chance. boring.i give every good developer the chance of 500k Nxt.
We want YOU.

[dance]

good developers need nxt , fimk has no chance. boring.i give every good developer the chance of 500k Nxt.
We want YOU.

Good crypto-currency needs two things: good technology base and good distribution.
NXT is a step in first direction, FIMK - is an attempt in second.

Because crypto-currency as an entity has to be open-source, every technology could be freely copy-pasted. Distribution - is a work which must be done each time.

[BlackFor3st]

Nxt is great but has a really big problem on the NXT AE: There very much scams or projects that go badly because there is no accountability. I think it's not easy to prevent problems like that, but FimK should try to make it better.

At this moment FimK is the most interesting crypto currency for me.
Big Thanks to the hardworking and intelligent Devs!

[PilotofBTC]

Nxt is great but has a really big problem on the NXT AE: There very much scams or projects that go badly because there is no accountability. I think it's not easy to prevent problems like that, but FimK should try to make it better.

What would you suggest? I'm sure there are scam assets in XCP, XCH, USD, BTC, everywhere.

The decentralized aspect of the blockchain certainly means buyer beware.

If you want a regulated exchange there are plenty of those in the world.

[BlackFor3st]

If you want a regulated exchange there are plenty of those in the world.

I am sure there are a lot of unregulated exchange in the world too

What would you suggest? I'm sure there are scam assets in XCP, XCH, USD, BTC, everywhere.

Yes i think that`s right. Scams will not only be a Problem for FimK. But that doesn't help.

Maybe a system can be created, that decreases the risk. For example: 
It's only allowed to create and sell assets if x % of the whole value of the assets are paid to an escrow-system. Or if the asset-creator has not enough Fimk, he can give his ID to the escrow-system. So the asset-buyers are much more safe. After a certain time the Fimk will be paid back to the asset-creator or his ID will be deleted.
If persons want money from strangers and have no evil intent, then they should not have problems with a system like these.

[Eliphaz Fimk]

The account identification procedures launched in a couple of weeks will tackle some of the AE trustworthiness issue.

The association requires government issued electronic id from all accounts eligible to the basic income. These accounts can then be used for strong authentication after they're marked as identified. Asset issuers can release assets from authenticated accounts. If they choose to make their id data public, its validity can be technically confirmed from the blockchain. If they choose not to make it public, in any case the association will have access to the id data in cases of fraud investigation etc.

The strong identification feature is optional, thus people can still operate their FIMK accounts, issue assets etc. from unidentified accounts. Serious, legal businesses will however have a strong incentive to use identified account. Unfortunately this feature is only available to people with their id data in the Finnish electronic databases (most people residing in Finland and some foreigners).

Decentralized escrow has been in the FIMK initial blueprint and will likely be implemented in the future when some more planned features of the NXT core become available to make this task more feasible.

[PilotofBTC]

Does anyone have any contact with dgex? I still get all kinds of error messages when I log in and or try to get a FIMK deposit address.

[BlackFor3st]

Does anyone have any contact with dgex? I still get all kinds of error messages when I log in and or try to get a FIMK deposit address.

It's still not possible to deposit FIMK to DGEX.
Graviton (DGEX CEO) works very slow! Maybe you have the best chances to connect him at this place: https://nextcoin.org/

[josegines]

Does anyone have any contact with dgex? I still get all kinds of error messages when I log in and or try to get a FIMK deposit address.

It's still not possible to deposit FIMK to DGEX.
Graviton (DGEX CEO) works very slow! Maybe you have the best chances to connect him at this place: https://nextcoin.org/

I have the same problem, cannot deposit FIMK to Dgex and the AE is not a solution because the liquidity is minimal. It is clear that the exchange is not the priority number 1 of the dev. It is not possible to say that we should not be patient, we do not have an exchange to buy or to sell Fimkripto: when will we have it?

[PilotofBTC]

Does anyone have any contact with dgex? I still get all kinds of error messages when I log in and or try to get a FIMK deposit address.

It's still not possible to deposit FIMK to DGEX.
Graviton (DGEX CEO) works very slow! Maybe you have the best chances to connect him at this place: https://nextcoin.org/

I have the same problem, cannot deposit FIMK to Dgex and the AE is not a solution because the liquidity is minimal. It is clear that the exchange is not the priority number 1 of the dev. It is not possible to say that we should not be patient, we do not have an exchange to buy or to sell Fimkripto: when will we have it?

OK, glad it's not me. I certainly don't want to sell. I'm happy holding at this point. But, seeing all the empty blocks is a bit sad. I think part of it is due to the lack of liquidity and exchanges. People won't use the coin, if they can't get their hands on it.

[qora dan]

Its maybe a bit harsh saying it but it almost feels like the "FIMK community" was only acknowledged by devs before and immediately after the record IPO and now its almost as if we are told to just go away and leave them to it. I think its dangerous to ignore what people are asking for. Good example is Dgex. Everyone wanted the Graviton to evolve but he just would not listen and kept on trying to do things his way and I am sad to say its going to take a miracle to get Dgex to be a competitive exchange again. No one knows about FIMK because its not listed so even if the devs create something amazing who is going to know about it.

[lovely89]

Its maybe a bit harsh saying it but it almost feels like the "FIMK community" was only acknowledged by devs before and immediately after the record IPO and now its almost as if we are told to just go away and leave them to it. I think its dangerous to ignore what people are asking for. Good example is Dgex. Everyone wanted the Graviton to evolve but he just would not listen and kept on trying to do things his way and I am sad to say its going to take a miracle to get Dgex to be a competitive exchange again. No one knows about FIMK because its not listed so even if the devs create something amazing who is going to know about it.

Graviton had been working on this new exchange for a long time. He was due to implement it when the theft happened. This was just a set back and I'm sure he'll come back more competitive than ever.

[abctc]

..  cannot deposit FIMK to Dgex and the AE is not a solution because the liquidity is minimal.

- liquidity is minimal because this coin is not interesting for investors. Not because the lack of exchanges.

[McHammer]

just found this thread for the first time
where to BUY?

[josegines]

..  cannot deposit FIMK to Dgex and the AE is not a solution because the liquidity is minimal.

- liquidity is minimal because this coin is not interesting for investors. Not because the lack of exchanges.

No, I think they're wrong, you can't talk of lack of interest of the investors when we are not a complete exchange, what we have is an exchange, Dgex, where you cannot send FIM and AE in NXT called that is used by many investors less than they use BTC.

If we had a full exchange in BTC we could comment on the interest of investors.

Even some AE of jl777, Atomic, freemarket ... are exchanged in Bter since the first day.

How is it possible that FIM do not also after so many weeks?

[dance]

just found this thread for the first time
where to BUY?

on dgex, nxt AE (Asset id: 12404894802398759379), or fim AE (Asset Id:  2339799191405258101, btc assets could be bought here: http://fimkassetification.tk/)

[abctc]

where to BUY?

- you can also buy FIM (for NXT) at p2p exchange (like localbitcoins) https://nxtex.net/

At Nxt Asset Exchange you can buy up to 70 000 FIM ...

Open Sell Orders
Account                              Quantity   Price   Total
NXT-YLSS-TMTM-DU2A-55PED        70.3   30   2109
NXT-WR9W-RPQW-8ZJ7-6U2D7          1   33   33
NXT-8T4Z-6NRS-PBGB-6UWU9   18.104   35   633.64

... at 30 NXT/1000FIM, which translates to 0.00000240 BTC/FIM, which is 37% less then at DGex !

In order to trade FIM at Nxt AE just use 1000FIM Gateway.

[josegines]

where to BUY?

- you can also buy FIM (for NXT) at p2p exchange (like localbitcoins) https://nxtex.net/

At Nxt Asset Exchange you can buy up to 70 000 FIM ...

Open Sell Orders
Account                              Quantity   Price   Total
NXT-YLSS-TMTM-DU2A-55PED        70.3   30   2109
NXT-WR9W-RPQW-8ZJ7-6U2D7          1   33   33
NXT-8T4Z-6NRS-PBGB-6UWU9   18.104   35   633.64

... at 30 NXT/1000FIM, which translates to 0.00000240 BTC/FIM, which is 37% less then at DGex !

In order to trade FIM at Nxt AE just use 1000FIM Gateway.

It is appreciated that des support to the community by providing a FIM AE, but the right thing to do is see the demand, not supply, And we can see that:
1st position of demand: 1 x 25 25 NXT
2nd position of demand: 28.25 x 20 565 NXT
3rd position of demand: 200 x 14  2800 NXT
4th position of demand: 300 x 13 3900 NXT
5th position of demand: 10.0011 x 11 2000.22 NXT

that is to say, there are a total of 9290 NXT in demand, What is equivalent to 0.7432 BTC

all the demand does not reach 1 BTC, obviously the liquidity is minimal, that is why it is fair that you know those who want to buy that AE.

The AE are a brilliant invention, but are very new and by experience i know that those who succeed are those who have a support of the promoter or other investors. It is clear that this AE of FIM, it does not.

If someone would like to sell 100 1000FIM now, the price would not 30 NXT/FIM (0.00000240 BTC/FIM ), but :

1x25 28.25x20 70.75x14 = 1580.5 NXT

that gives us an average price of 1580 / 100 = 15.80

15.80 NXT NXT/ 1000 FIM is contracting to 0.00000126 BTC/NXT

Again, thank you for supporting the community FIM, but let us be careful with the information that we, is not the same offer that demand.

[abctc]

.. the right thing to do is see the demand, not supply

- hmmm..   did you see at which question I had answered?

where to BUY?