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August 11, 2014, 12:15:33 PM |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple.  A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. +1 I agree, RenagadeMan I enjoyed your earlier post as well. Makes a good change from all the fud that has been going on around here lately. |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. +1 I agree, RenagadeMan I enjoyed your earlier post as well. Makes a good change from all the fud that has been going on around here lately. Best way is to close Bittrex (Cloak) and wait till a friend of you write you.. WTF Cloak !  Then its time to open again ...good or bad. Look at all other Coins at Coinmarketcap , most of them needed 3-5 months to grow steady. So lets have faith in our Developer team. I didn't expect POSA working so smoothy . And when Escrow hits its a good stable coin to transfer money. Everyone who wanna help can donate for our Marketing Fund! You can find more information here: http://cloaktalk.org/t/cloak-marketing-fund/92I hope we can get a video off in the next weeks, I feel a lack of understanding of POSA. |
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@RenegadeManYes, thank you for smart reply, but that was just simple metaphor. Using word not in literal sense doesn't mean that you disavow basic meaning of the word. It's just like moving "general formal impression" from basic sense to describe another situation with this impression. That's language and metaphors are about in my opinion. Btw. So if my boss "killed my day" in job, I should kill him in literal sense? Or I shouldn't desribe this asshole as "he, who killed my day" because of all killed people in the world from the beginning od humanity?
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August 11, 2014, 01:12:55 PM |
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Can't see, i'm blind, i'm bliiiind!! Looking at it, we should be in the 'told you so' point.... he... i pray for it to recover, please...  |
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August 11, 2014, 01:34:06 PM |
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August 11, 2014, 01:47:21 PM |
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@RenegadeManYes, thank you for smart reply, but that was just simple metaphor. Using word not in literal sense doesn't mean that you disavow basic meaning of the word. It's just like moving "general formal impression" from basic sense to describe another situation with this impression. That's language and metaphors are about in my opinion. Btw. So if my boss "killed my day" in job, I should kill him in literal sense? Or I shouldn't desribe this asshole as "he, who killed my day" because of all killed people in the world from the beginning od humanity? Hi SkyValeey, Yes I know the word is being used as a metaphor, but I'm highlighting the unfortunate development of this against the backdrop of increasing violence towards women in just about all jurisdictions. Without getting into too much complexity around this (and continuing further 'off topic'), there is a growing and very disturbing trend of women (but not only women....the problem exists with young men and boys too, especially in places like Afghanistan) being raped with ever increasing levels of violence because of a growing anger and backlash from some men that believe women's increasing equality is wrong. In some places it is just so ridiculously dangerous to be a women it's appalling (India and Egypt immediately spring to mind, and then there are too many places were women are completely repressed to even count). But even in many western countries like Australia where I live, there's increasing sexual violence towards women as anger from many men about the changing social and gender equality conditions is boiling up. It's heading towards an epidemic. And the flippant use of the word rape just helps to trivialise sexual violence; particularly amongst young easily impressionable teenage boys and 20 something men who are getting mixed messages because of the prevalence and easy accessibility of violent pornography. If your boss "killed" your day then your day has (I guess) been "killed" (it's not how I'd describe something but whatever floats your boat). It's different because lots of things can be "killed", a day, a car, a laptop, a piece of code, an animal, a person. What it doesn't do is describe potentially winning or achieving at something. That's what's disturbing about the use of the word "rape", it's often said like it's a good thing (as in "I raped that exam in") and that's where the messaging is wrong and the word is being morphed which takes away from the seriousness of real rape. |
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August 11, 2014, 01:49:27 PM |
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August 11, 2014, 01:51:43 PM |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Sorry guys, but show me one coin that did that you wish to see with cloak. There is no one. I was also thinking in the past and i have some worthless bags. Crypto is not a investment that need time to show its potential. Its only scammers paradise and for non scammers a lottery, nothing more. BC, CAT, AC, MINT,CINNI, DOGE, WC, XC , VERI, PANDA, AUR, VTC, .... LTC .... CLOAK Show me one coin over the last month that done fine.(expect actual new pumps ) - There is no one |
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August 11, 2014, 01:53:07 PM |
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seriously?? take it outside ladies
"ladies" being a slur....just more of the same stuff. |
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August 11, 2014, 01:55:44 PM |
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Hello everyone! First I want to say: I`m new in this forum (really new, never had an account) but not so new in Crypto. Second: My english is not the best. Therefore I might verbalize a bit laborious. I`m invested in a few coins, but mostly in Cloak. I bought in at around 60k and bought some more in the range of 200k after the drop. What I think about the current price is: It`s fair and it`s good. Why? Cloak is very very young. The Devs did a great job so far, but today nobody knows if all the promises will be realized. That`s not FUD, it`s a simple fact. And: Some investors bought in very cheap and a few probably very much because they`ve seen the potential. So its really needed, that some of them sell some of their stocks. Everyone of them could crash the price even if it would be 50 Dollar. So, distribution is really needed. But: In this early stages there is no run on Cloak. The price doesn`t recover that fast as some would like to see it. But also: If the Devs make true what they`ve intended there will be a run. For me personally, Cloak is a simple bet. If Cloak, PoSA, OneMarket etc. will work as promised, 10 Dollar would be cheap... I think 20 Dollar would be cheap (LTC were about 30 Dollar with over 30 Mio of LTC). If not, the current price is high and another coin will win the race. But I think, Cloak has the best chances. I don`t know much about coding but I understand the principals and I think decentralization is the most important. If cloak will be delivered as intended, it will be decentralized and it will be truely anonymous. That would be the cash of the net. And that means: Real money would find into cloak, not just speculative Money. I analyze simple principles and some of them more in a psychological way. I always take a look to a Developer-Team, how they communicate, how they deliver. For me, delays are good signs if I see also communication. It stands for perfectionism and thats really needed. Also I try to figure out if the intentions of a development team are honest-longterm. And sure, every Developer wants to make profits, too. But I try to find Dev-Teams on the market who think longterm and have the skills to do it longterm. And thats why I think, Cloak is a great bet. Because I see all I want to see in the project and the Development-Team. Can we be sure that cloak will be on top of the decentralized-anonymous-Cryptos? No. Will there be setbacks? Yes. Some of them just because of FUD, some maybe true setbacks. But if.... Cloak (PoSA, OneMarket and all what will come) some day will work as intended it will be huge. To come to an end: A great project needs time. A great crypto needs distribution. Everybody who think, Cloak will be delivered as intended should buy. Everyone who thinks, he can`t bear the setbacks should sell... Everyone who is sure, that Cloak will become the Cash of the net should buy as much as he can. Everyone who think Cloak will die in weeks or months should sell all (and maybe buy in later if he is wrong .... Really simple. A great post Tempus, makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Sorry guys, but show me one coin that did that you wish to see with cloak. There is no one. I was also thinking in the past and i have some worthless bags. Crypto is not a investment that need time to show its potential. Its only scammers paradise and for non scammers a lottery, nothing more. BC, CAT, AC, MINT,CINNI, DOGE, WC, XC , VERI, PANDA, AUR, VTC, .... LTC .... CLOAK Show me one coin over the last month that done fine.(expect actual new pumps ) - There is no one I noticed you left DRK out of you list. You must be invested in DRK eh? |
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August 11, 2014, 01:59:04 PM |
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seriously?? take it outside ladies
"ladies" being a slur....just more of the same stuff.  |
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August 11, 2014, 02:00:16 PM |
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Yeah I'm not selling either. The fact that this coin is tanking after the release of the groundbreaking technology that PoSA is is a disgrace and a threat for the altcoincommunity as a whole. How can we expect new money to enter this world if there is no respect for actual innovation, meaning any investment in any altcoin is a gamble for everyone except for the lucky few whales destroying crypto. We are witnesses of a turning point in history where the control of our money is taken out of the hands of governments and financial institutions, yet every step forward comes with a storm of FUD from the cryptocommunity itself, like a cancer growing inside it's own body. This cryptocommunity is sick, yet I expect that cloak will rise the way it deserves after new technologies like block escrow and onemarket are released. If it doesn't, I will leave altcoins with my head up high since at least I'll have stood by something I truly believe in. +1 well said Lot if immature kids in cryptos that think they are wolfs of wall st. Stay strong, we can bring this coin to #2 if you don't buy into their pump and dump game. They only care about bitcoin. They cannot see innovation and that this coin could very easily change the game. Just keep on buying on drops, stronger hands will eat up this coin and soon there will be none left for whales and prices will adjust. Also, don't forget NEW money coming to a coin like this being trustless anon coin, first of it's kind. If prices stablize we can see new people coming in since cloakcoin will have real world use. 2 months old, and still innovating. Eventually this will take off, be patient. It would be like selling bitcoin for a buck right now. Keep on buying and realized your probably buying a 100 dollar coin once it's fully realized, maybe even more. |
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August 11, 2014, 02:01:20 PM |
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seriously?? take it outside ladies
"ladies" being a slur....just more of the same stuff. give over with the left wing soap box bullshit, he didn`t mean anything by it |
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August 11, 2014, 02:12:40 PM |
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Yeah I'm not selling either. The fact that this coin is tanking after the release of the groundbreaking technology that PoSA is is a disgrace and a threat for the altcoincommunity as a whole. How can we expect new money to enter this world if there is no respect for actual innovation, meaning any investment in any altcoin is a gamble for everyone except for the lucky few whales destroying crypto. We are witnesses of a turning point in history where the control of our money is taken out of the hands of governments and financial institutions, yet every step forward comes with a storm of FUD from the cryptocommunity itself, like a cancer growing inside it's own body. This cryptocommunity is sick, yet I expect that cloak will rise the way it deserves after new technologies like block escrow and onemarket are released. If it doesn't, I will leave altcoins with my head up high since at least I'll have stood by something I truly believe in. +1 well said Lot if immature kids in cryptos that think they are wolfs of wall st. Stay strong, we can bring this coin to #2 if you don't buy into their pump and dump game. They only care about bitcoin. They cannot see innovation and that this coin could very easily change the game. Just keep on buying on drops, stronger hands will eat up this coin and soon there will be none left for whales and prices will adjust. Also, don't forget NEW money coming to a coin like this being trustless anon coin, first of it's kind. If prices stablize we can see new people coming in since cloakcoin will have real world use. 2 months old, and still innovating. Eventually this will take off, be patient. It would be like selling bitcoin for a buck right now. Keep on buying and realized your probably buying a 100 dollar coin once it's fully realized, maybe even more. This is one of the most important part that a lot of ppl forget in a sea of fud trustless anon coin, first of it's kind (with a promise of a complete infrastructure built around it) That actually works and was delivered in what, like 2 months... others running mostly on months of promises , CLOAK devs delivered so far. |
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August 11, 2014, 02:13:38 PM |
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August 11, 2014, 02:20:49 PM |
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seriously?? take it outside ladies
"ladies" being a slur....just more of the same stuff. give over with the left wing soap box bullshit, he didn`t mean anything by it "give over" - relinquish? "left wing soap box bullshit" - Well there's an extraordinary jump to a whole other realm we're not even remotely talking about! "he didn`t mean anything by it" - Saying to men "ladies" is typically a negative description that manliness has been reduced to being "ladies". No further explanation required. Based on your response I'd say your ignorance level indicates I'm wasting my breath. (on this subject) over and out. |
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August 11, 2014, 02:28:02 PM |
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to break up the "word twisting to death" debate, here is what is important to this thread: PoSA v1 : Proof of Stake Anonymity (The ground floor of a breakthrough anonymous system) - LAUNCHED.
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