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April 06, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
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Once again you start to turn the old theme in a circle. How can they control if everything is secured multi-signatures? Shocked

Multisignature is irrelevant for harvesting. The point is not to allow a single entity to reach 50% of PoI rating.
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April 06, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
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Sorry, I don't see any problem here.

Delegated harvesting doesn't delegate to someone else. It delegates to another account that is is still your.

Then you must have a running node somewhere. Small fish will likely decide to delegate the power to a pool if someone offers such service.
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April 06, 2015, 09:46:53 PM
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Man, you can't please everyone, of course, someone will try to insult you. But do you really care of their opinion? I bet the answer is "no".
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April 06, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
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Civility, that is the simple answer.

I didn't say one single personal remark toward anyone apart from smaragaidiot who is the worst person on the whole forum.

The last person you want involved with NEM is Smaragda.  His adderall induced posts are the antithesis of good marketing.

i hope there is a cure for his mental illnes

I have nothing against you personally, I just think your drug fueled rants are bad for a general thread.



Two of those are mine,  Smiley
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April 06, 2015, 09:57:03 PM
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Congratulations

Thanks!
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April 06, 2015, 09:59:20 PM
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Developers control 65% of coins, I believe.  This is probably the worst distribution of POS coin

If these coins don't harvest on a node controlled by a single person then it's ok.
Of course nobody will harvest with the NEM Funds.


Sorry, I don't see any problem here.

Delegated harvesting doesn't delegate to someone else. It delegates to another account that is is still your.

Then you must have a running node somewhere. Small fish will likely decide to delegate the power to a pool if someone offers such service.
Why do you see a motivation to have pools? I don't see it.



@smaragda: Small hint: The usage of explicit language COULD help getting your posts deleted.
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April 06, 2015, 10:00:36 PM
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you think because xtester started to delete posts that you're immune all of a sudden?

I think that majority knows you well enough to ignore your posts even if they see them, you did your best to reach this by overusing caps, red color and copy-paste. Deleting posts changes nothing.
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April 06, 2015, 10:02:55 PM
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April 06, 2015, 10:03:34 PM
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Of course nobody will harvest with the NEM Funds.

One of the devs already confirmed that they harvest with coins controlled by devs. I thought he meant NEM Funds, maybe he meant something else.


Why do you see a motivation to have pools? I don't see it.

Ability to choose what transactions to confirm in the first place.
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April 06, 2015, 10:13:09 PM
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Nothing wrong. My notebook is running a model, 100% of CPU is used and I can't write code. Talking to you is the only way to spend time now.
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April 06, 2015, 10:18:09 PM
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Hehe, obviously you are not in good mood now, I'll leave you alone. Post something after this my reply (you don't like when the last reply is not yours, I know) and we stop for today.
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April 06, 2015, 10:24:07 PM
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Of course nobody will harvest with the NEM Funds.
One of the devs already confirmed that they harvest with coins controlled by devs. I thought he meant NEM Funds, maybe he meant something else.
He meant something else for sure.

Why do you see a motivation to have pools? I don't see it.
Ability to choose what transactions to confirm in the first place.
What do you mean?
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April 06, 2015, 10:25:32 PM
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zanzibar, I'd appreciate it if you'd keep it clean. Enough interesting subjects to be discussed, no need to create and feed flame wars here.

Thanks.
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April 06, 2015, 10:34:35 PM
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What do you mean?

Someone could run a pool to be able to decide what transactions to include into blocks. In some cases (e.g. Asset Exchange front-running) it's very profitable even if you don't get harvesting fees.
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April 06, 2015, 10:40:39 PM
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What do you mean?
Someone could run a pool to be able to decide what transactions to include into blocks. In some cases (e.g. Asset Exchange front-running) it's very profitable even if you don't get harvesting fees.
So it would be good for the people who run the pool.

But why should people be interested in participating in a pool?
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April 06, 2015, 10:43:00 PM
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I guess you allow CIVIL-TROLLING too...  huh???   Roll Eyes

By the way...  I really enjoyed that there might be proof you posted earlier...  still acting like you're not sure even though you have come in direct communication with NxtChg about the situation...  huh???   Roll Eyes


...like you haven't seen me post parts of the chit chat...

No, I am sure there was proof, though I'm not sure what happened in the meantime.
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April 06, 2015, 10:45:57 PM
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an hour ago I restartet my computer because NIS was not available. after that I tried to start NCC in browser and had a new wallet in my nem ncc directory böser dämon is the wallet called: B%C3%B6ser+D%C3%A4mon.wlt
and NIS is not available since then. Maybe I got hacked because how could be a wallet in my ncc directory, which is not my wallet?

Hi himmelsfaller! Sites like nodeexplorer.com expose your IP address. With this information anyone could try opening NCC over the web via http://xx.xx.xx.xx:8989/ncc/web/index.html.

Chances are someone accessed your NCC and created that new wallet. When running a public node, it's best not to have NCC running (running NIS with unlocked account is all you need to keep harvesting) or change its port to something unique only you know. I could imagine that NIS is not available because the same person specified a remote server (probably non-available one), which is why your NIS doesn't boot/refuses booting.

In NCC, go to Settings and see what is specified. Change it back to your previous settings (default is 127.0.0.1 and default port checked).

If you have harvesting activated, you can go ahead and close NCC. Then simply keep NIS running. It is actually kind of a flaw that NIS can easily be made unavailable simply via NCC's front page at this point. I wanted to point this out earlier but you reminded me. Hope that helps.

Can someone confirm the minimum required for a remote server setup for delegated harvesting

1- NIS running
2- NCC running
3- a wallet unlocked

from my experiences over recent days it looks like the NIS stops downloading blocks (so delegated harvesting stops on the local PC wallet) if a wallet is not open in the NCC on the remote server, but I'm not 100% sure.
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April 06, 2015, 10:48:23 PM
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So it would be good for the people who run the pool.

But why should people be interested in participating in a pool?

They would get harvesting fees without running a node.
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April 06, 2015, 10:56:50 PM
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So it would be good for the people who run the pool.

But why should people be interested in participating in a pool?

They would get harvesting fees without running a node.
Yeah, they get the exact same thing when they don't participate in a pool but in any remote NIS. And since letting people harvest on a node doesnt take much CPU load, I believe this will be pretty decentralized.
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April 06, 2015, 10:59:32 PM
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Can someone confirm the minimum required for a remote server setup for delegated harvesting

1- NIS running
2- NCC running
3- a wallet unlocked

from my experiences over recent days it looks like the NIS stops downloading blocks (so delegated harvesting stops on the local PC wallet) if a wallet is not open in the NCC on the remote server, but I'm not 100% sure.
A remote server should run NIS only. NCC should always run locally!

So once you have NIS running on the remote server and it is booted (manually from NCC or by entering a bootkey into NIS config.properties [but please don't enter priv keys as bootkey from accounts with funds]), you can connect to that NIS and start delegated harvesting.

Please also see this: http://blog.nem.io/nem-tutorial-list/
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