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October 15, 2015, 07:29:39 PM |
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Ok it seems there is an issue on Chrome, I'm on it.
Seems fixed here, now it should work I can confirm it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thx for the quick fix ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fjordanpearce.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2Ftwo-thumbs-up-232x300.jpg&t=665&c=XC9bnTLoJWAzsA)
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Gelbstich
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October 16, 2015, 05:45:39 AM |
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it's working for me again too. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Nortan12rx
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October 16, 2015, 06:18:34 AM |
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thx for fix faucet! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) i'll be rich ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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upsidedown75
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October 16, 2015, 11:48:34 AM |
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Okay, now it seems to work. After clicking the button a countdown appears. i need to check later, if i have got any XEM. Btw, i am using Chrome browser with Ubuntu Linux. Hello, i just tried to claim my first NEM through the faucet on faucet.nem.io but there is no functionality behind the button. i typed in my address and the captcha but the button got grey after clicking and nothing happens. is the faucet working?
Hey', Yes it's working, try again ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 16, 2015, 03:35:28 PM |
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October 16, 2015, 05:04:06 PM |
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October 16, 2015, 06:31:24 PM |
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Thanks for fixing the issues. The faucet is also working for me again. i am using Google Chrome browser, too.
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dandruff1138
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October 16, 2015, 08:13:25 PM |
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Actually interesting news, but still no hype and only >800 views...
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October 16, 2015, 09:47:42 PM |
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NEM, THE SECURE, SCALABLE BLOCKCHAIN [NEM.IO] [T.ME/NEMRED]
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:20:39 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but NEM is vulnerable when it comes to the following; - "Whoever has knowledge of a private key has full control over the associated funds", which implies that if somebody is somehow able to guess your passwords he or she has only full access to your funds if they have access to the wallet file? So that's pretty safe right? - Somebody who is able to guess your key has by definition access to all your funds? I think this is risky, especially with the coming quantum computers. I think it would be better if a key alone is not enough to hack all your funds. Or am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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I like to speculate
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:22:57 AM |
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I would feel much more secure if both the NEM Wallet file AND the keyfile were necessary to enter your account and transfer funds...
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I like to speculate
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:36:08 AM |
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why have a keyfile in the first place if it only brings with it insecurity? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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I like to speculate
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:39:07 AM |
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Also if you export your wallet (which is making a back up of your wallet), then you automatically also have a back-up of your keyfiles right? So you don't need to safe keyfiles themselves specifically? honestly I think keyfiles are a pain in the ass and I don't know what they are good for...
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I like to speculate
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patmast3r
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October 17, 2015, 08:39:28 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but NEM is vulnerable when it comes to the following; - "Whoever has knowledge of a private key has full control over the associated funds", which implies that if somebody is somehow able to guess your passwords he or she has only full access to your funds if they have access to the wallet file? So that's pretty safe right? - Somebody who is able to guess your key has by definition access to all your funds? I think this is risky, especially with the coming quantum computers. I think it would be better if a key alone is not enough to hack all your funds. Or am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If your able to guess that key then the NSA will hire you no questions asked and pay whatever you want.
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:41:19 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but NEM is vulnerable when it comes to the following; - "Whoever has knowledge of a private key has full control over the associated funds", which implies that if somebody is somehow able to guess your passwords he or she has only full access to your funds if they have access to the wallet file? So that's pretty safe right? - Somebody who is able to guess your key has by definition access to all your funds? I think this is risky, especially with the coming quantum computers. I think it would be better if a key alone is not enough to hack all your funds. Or am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If your able to guess that key then the NSA will hire you no questions asked and pay whatever you want. I was talking about quantum computers...not guessing...
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I like to speculate
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patmast3r
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October 17, 2015, 08:44:52 AM |
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Also if you export your wallet (which is making a back up of your wallet), then you automatically also have a back-up of your keyfiles right? So you don't need to safe keyfiles yourself. honestly I think keyfiles are a pain in the ass and I don't know what they are good for...
I think you still didn't look at all into it and have actually no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it's gettin a bit annoying ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) What do you mean by keyfile ? You have 1 or more wallets. 1 wallet can hold many accounts but that doesn't even matter right now. Your wallet is an encrypted file stored locally on your computer that hold your key. Noone can decrypt it without the password you chose and as long as you don't pick a crappy password. Noone will be able to guess your key unless he is the luckies son of a bitch in the entire universe. Bitcoin uses the same system. Ever heard of a wallet being compromised by guessing a key ?
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patmast3r
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October 17, 2015, 08:48:19 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but NEM is vulnerable when it comes to the following; - "Whoever has knowledge of a private key has full control over the associated funds", which implies that if somebody is somehow able to guess your passwords he or she has only full access to your funds if they have access to the wallet file? So that's pretty safe right? - Somebody who is able to guess your key has by definition access to all your funds? I think this is risky, especially with the coming quantum computers. I think it would be better if a key alone is not enough to hack all your funds. Or am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If your able to guess that key then the NSA will hire you no questions asked and pay whatever you want. I was talking about quantum computers...not guessing... NEMs wallets are no more or less secure than other cryptos right now. You wanna worry about something ? Worry about this https://thehackernews.com/2015/10/nsa-crack-encryption.htmlThat puts your bank account at a whole lot more risk than your NEM wallet.
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:54:20 AM |
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Also if you export your wallet (which is making a back up of your wallet), then you automatically also have a back-up of your keyfiles right? So you don't need to safe keyfiles yourself. honestly I think keyfiles are a pain in the ass and I don't know what they are good for...
I think you still didn't look at all into it and have actually no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it's gettin a bit annoying ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) What do you mean by keyfile ? You have 1 or more wallets. 1 wallet can hold many accounts but that doesn't even matter right now. Your wallet is an encrypted file stored locally on your computer that hold your key. Noone can decrypt it without the password you chose and as long as you don't pick a crappy password. Noone will be able to guess your key unless he is the luckies son of a bitch in the entire universe. Bitcoin uses the same system. Ever heard of a wallet being compromised by guessing a key ? I am just not familiar with keyfiles that's all, didn't even know bitcoin uses keyfiles as well. When I hear the term "key" I get the impression that somehow it's a necessary file/password to perform transactions and that you have to use it a lot. To you they may be basic noob questions but if the attitude is "stfu noob" then only a few crypto nerds will join the NEM platform and this thing won't take off. After all, isn't this project supposed to also serve the poor in Africa? how are they supposed to get it? Or is NEM meant to be a platform for a crypto elite?
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b1007
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October 17, 2015, 08:56:59 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but NEM is vulnerable when it comes to the following; - "Whoever has knowledge of a private key has full control over the associated funds", which implies that if somebody is somehow able to guess your passwords he or she has only full access to your funds if they have access to the wallet file? So that's pretty safe right? - Somebody who is able to guess your key has by definition access to all your funds? I think this is risky, especially with the coming quantum computers. I think it would be better if a key alone is not enough to hack all your funds. Or am I missing something? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) If your able to guess that key then the NSA will hire you no questions asked and pay whatever you want. I was talking about quantum computers...not guessing... NEMs wallets are no more or less secure than other cryptos right now. You wanna worry about something ? Worry about this https://thehackernews.com/2015/10/nsa-crack-encryption.htmlThat puts your bank account at a whole lot more risk than your NEM wallet. That's some scary sh%t ! The US is acting like a global dictatorship..
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patmast3r
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October 17, 2015, 09:02:28 AM |
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Also if you export your wallet (which is making a back up of your wallet), then you automatically also have a back-up of your keyfiles right? So you don't need to safe keyfiles yourself. honestly I think keyfiles are a pain in the ass and I don't know what they are good for...
I think you still didn't look at all into it and have actually no idea what you are talking about. I'm sorry to be so blunt but it's gettin a bit annoying ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) What do you mean by keyfile ? You have 1 or more wallets. 1 wallet can hold many accounts but that doesn't even matter right now. Your wallet is an encrypted file stored locally on your computer that hold your key. Noone can decrypt it without the password you chose and as long as you don't pick a crappy password. Noone will be able to guess your key unless he is the luckies son of a bitch in the entire universe. Bitcoin uses the same system. Ever heard of a wallet being compromised by guessing a key ? I am just not familiar with keyfiles that's all, didn't even know bitcoin uses keyfiles as well. When I hear the term "key" I get the impression that somehow it's a necessary file/password to perform transactions and that you have to use it a lot. To you they may be basic noob questions but if the attitude is "stfu noob" then only a few crypto nerds will join the NEM platform and this thing won't take off. After all, isn't this project supposed to serve the poor in Africa? If somebody with university qualifications does not quite get it, how are they supposed to get it? Or is NEM meant to be a platform for a crypto elite? The attitude is not stfup noob and I'm sorry if that was the impression i gave you. The attitude is plz read the links multiple people have provided and come back if you have any further questions instead of asking variations of the same question over and over again. You could say the key is a necessary file/password (shouldn't but could for arguments sake) to perform transactions. The thing is it's a very long and random password so noone will be able to guess it. Since you won't be able to remember it it is stored in a file which is what everyone refers to as wallet. You don't want anyone else to be able to access that key so the wallet is encrypted with another password that you get to choose. So you have a password to decrypt your wallet and that is actually all you need. The key itself will be used by the client in the background. The client will ask you for your password, decrypt the wallet and use the key. So what you as a user need to transact is your wallet (i.e. the file that is stored) and the password you chose when creating the wallet. The key is something that is handled by the client in the background.
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