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September 27, 2014, 09:27:22 AM |
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Can anybody guess what sort of economy size will the ecosystem of NEM has, say, 1 year from now. By economy size, I mean the amount of money equivalent of what can be transacted in the ecosystem by September next year.
The best benchmark is the AE value now in Nxt. How much are they churning per day/week/month?
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nembit86
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September 27, 2014, 10:12:10 AM |
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... As well you don't aim for second place. ...
This is axactly what sets NEM apart. Most players in the crypto space go for releasing a coin making some money hit a few exchanges and that it. Only ver few want to go big and actually change something. NEM is one of those. Yes I unfortunately have a stake in several of those coins. Where there's no vision and the development team is incredibly difficult to get ahold of, you suspect the only reason they created their coin was to get beer money or something. NEM team on the other hand is very large, very communicable and they care about the coin. If you got a problem or a question about NEM - the developers always take the time to help you and or answer your questions, private messages and that is why many people like NEM. I agree that is a huge part of what gives nem such a good name. The community should always be communicated with in a fast, efficient and friendly manner and I think that's being done very well. I think it comes down to the fact that between devoted devs who are easy to speak to, marketing team and all the people who help out there is always a decent number of people online that can answer questions etc. This is going to be highly important coming up to and at/after launch.. This thread is going to explode.. It's already starting to pick up ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yes, I hope that Rocketheads concerns over a lack of key players will diminish at launch when there will be a lot of interest from senior programmers hopefully.
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September 27, 2014, 10:41:17 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
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September 27, 2014, 11:04:17 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest?
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nembit86
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September 27, 2014, 11:11:40 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest? More than 2000 Nemsters will be more interested. Strange comment Pat.
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September 27, 2014, 11:26:05 AM |
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I disagree completely pat.. Look what happened on the threads just before launch of trading on the AE. A lot of the gained interest remained after that. Imagine what will happen when we hit top 5 on CMC?
I thinks he was thinking about interest to join NEM and contribute with development and growth of the ecosystem by building infrastructure (services) around NEM that will have real world application i' m mean usability and not just interest in speculation and trading or dumping (assets/coins) for BTC or FIAT for short term financial gain.
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nembit86
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September 27, 2014, 11:28:09 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest? More than 2000 Nemsters will be more interested. Strange comment Pat. I disagree completely pat.. Look what happened on the threads just before launch of trading on the AE. A lot of the gained interest remained after that. Imagine what will happen when we hit top 5 on CMC? More than 1200 veteran btt members will be opening wallets and discussing it with people they know which probably include all types of programmers.
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patmast3r
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September 27, 2014, 11:40:06 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest? More than 2000 Nemsters will be more interested. Strange comment Pat. I disagree completely pat.. Look what happened on the threads just before launch of trading on the AE. A lot of the gained interest remained after that. Imagine what will happen when we hit top 5 on CMC? First of all i don't think we'll hit top 5 soon. I'd be very happy with top 10 within the first month. Aside from that - how on earth can people still believe NEM is "not real" ? I'm not trying to be a downer but keep your expactations in check with reality people.
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September 27, 2014, 11:40:37 AM |
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More than 1200 veteran btt members will be opening wallets and discussing it with people they know which probably include all types of programmers.
I really hope the things will turn the way you have written here!
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patmast3r
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September 27, 2014, 11:43:00 AM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest? More than 2000 Nemsters will be more interested. Strange comment Pat. I disagree completely pat.. Look what happened on the threads just before launch of trading on the AE. A lot of the gained interest remained after that. Imagine what will happen when we hit top 5 on CMC? More than 1200 veteran btt members will be opening wallets and discussing it with people they know which probably include all types of programmers. What keeps those 1200 from talking to people right now ? Either I'm delusional or you guys are ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 27, 2014, 11:43:10 AM |
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Proof Of Importance? based on what?
POI is based on serveral things: How much NEM you have, how much NEM you are transferring to others, how much NEM other are transferring to you. The exact formula is not set in stone so far. That's we are a little vage how it works in details.
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nembit86
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September 27, 2014, 12:29:22 PM |
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Why is everbody convinced that launch will change anything ? The mere fact that we launched will change nothing in terms of interest imho.
It will mean that NEM is real, for starters. Also the mere presence of being on an exchange will attract interest. Why... How could you think launch wouldn't change interest? More than 2000 Nemsters will be more interested. Strange comment Pat. I disagree completely pat.. Look what happened on the threads just before launch of trading on the AE. A lot of the gained interest remained after that. Imagine what will happen when we hit top 5 on CMC? More than 1200 veteran btt members will be opening wallets and discussing it with people they know which probably include all types of programmers. What keeps those 1200 from talking to people right now ? Either I'm delusional or you guys are ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) there isn't much to discus for those who are not die hard nemsters. A huge amount of info is not released to the public yet. Id be willing to bet with you that this thread is going to go nuts before launch and will retain much of the activity after launch and will continue to gain more interest as time goes by? That goes for the forum too ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) once we have a white paper and all other tech details il be all over btt promoting nem. Just curious if the white paper will be released at the same time as the beta? I was on the forum the other day and was in awe of the discussion being made by some of the devs on a particular process. I had not a clue what they were talking about. Working away behind the scenes. Kodtycoon is right, non tech members havnt really had much to talk about. Discussion activity was high earlier on on the subject of sockpuppets, then it was high when Utopianfuture left.....then not so high talking about the logo......since then we havnt even had any abuse from trolls(apart from CFA ) to defend because I think the argument for the NEM concept was won ages ago. People, including the tech savvy have just been waiting.....a lot of wallets are going to be opened up soon...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. Just because the discussion forums have been quiet of late doesnt mean to say it will continue like that.... Most people are waiting for the launch!!!!!!!!!
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September 27, 2014, 12:31:23 PM |
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... ...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. ...
Do you honestly believe that ? NXT would imho be nowhere without jl777 and people like him. The way I see it 80% of why NXT is perceived as so awesome is made up of projects that are built by the community on top of NXT and not the core features of NXT.
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September 27, 2014, 12:39:25 PM |
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... ...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. ...
Do you honestly believe that ? NXT would imho be nowhere without jl777 and people like him. The way I see it 80% of why NXT is perceived as so awesome is made up of projects that are built by the community on top of NXT and not the core features of NXT. Will these guys you mention Pat be more interested in Nem after launch?....I think so...
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September 27, 2014, 12:50:07 PM |
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... ...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. ...
Do you honestly believe that ? NXT would imho be nowhere without jl777 and people like him. The way I see it 80% of why NXT is perceived as so awesome is made up of projects that are built by the community on top of NXT and not the core features of NXT. I agree nxt wouldn't be where it is with out those people. But those people would not be their if the nxt core itself wasn't as innovative as it is. Nems core as far as I can tell is even more innovative than nxt so I would assume based on that nem will attract just as Many if not more top class coders due to it being more innovative and attracting far less fud or bad stigma. I can see many people moving from nxt to nem and also from other communities once nem proves itself able to compete with the biggest of dogs. This shit is going to very real very fast. And tbh pat I thought you of all people would have been more optimistic. If you thought I'd be optimistic then you obviously don't know me very well ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 27, 2014, 12:59:08 PM |
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... ...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. ...
Do you honestly believe that ? NXT would imho be nowhere without jl777 and people like him. The way I see it 80% of why NXT is perceived as so awesome is made up of projects that are built by the community on top of NXT and not the core features of NXT. I agree nxt wouldn't be where it is with out those people. But those people would not be their if the nxt core itself wasn't as innovative as it is. Nems core as far as I can tell is even more innovative than nxt so I would assume based on that nem will attract just as Many if not more top class coders due to it being more innovative and attracting far less fud or bad stigma. I can see many people moving from nxt to nem and also from other communities once nem proves itself able to compete with the biggest of dogs. This shit is going to very real very fast. And tbh pat I thought you of all people would have been more optimistic. If you thought I'd be optimistic then you obviously don't know me very well ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Ah....now I get it........Pat just wants to be pleasantly surprised.....lol.....
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... ...Nxt grew with nothing like the base of people behind it like NEM. ...
Do you honestly believe that ? NXT would imho be nowhere without jl777 and people like him. The way I see it 80% of why NXT is perceived as so awesome is made up of projects that are built by the community on top of NXT and not the core features of NXT. I agree nxt wouldn't be where it is with out those people. But those people would not be their if the nxt core itself wasn't as innovative as it is. Nems core as far as I can tell is even more innovative than nxt so I would assume based on that nem will attract just as Many if not more top class coders due to it being more innovative and attracting far less fud or bad stigma. I can see many people moving from nxt to nem and also from other communities once nem proves itself able to compete with the biggest of dogs. This shit is going to very real very fast. And tbh pat I thought you of all people would have been more optimistic. If you thought I'd be optimistic then you obviously don't know me very well ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You took the words out of my mouth! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 27, 2014, 06:15:25 PM |
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Proof Of Importance? based on what?
POI is based on serveral things: How much NEM you have, how much NEM you are transferring to others, how much NEM other are transferring to you. The exact formula is not set in stone so far. That's we are a little vage how it works in details. Importance score should be also based on how long you are logged on the network (harvesting) and reset as soon as you hit a block, that way everyone could find a block.
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September 27, 2014, 06:28:24 PM |
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China blocked access to BTT a week or two ago, so we could have some NEM stakeholders who can't even access this thread and may not be aware of the official NEM forum.
Btt need a second address to access forum for chinese people! Problem resolved!
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September 27, 2014, 06:30:18 PM |
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Proof Of Importance? based on what?
POI is based on serveral things: How much NEM you have, how much NEM you are transferring to others, how much NEM other are transferring to you. The exact formula is not set in stone so far. That's we are a little vage how it works in details. Importance score should be also based on how long you are logged on the network (harvesting) and reset as soon as you hit a block, that way everyone could find a block. great concept. Vote for this one. Reset as soon as you hit a block
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