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We should look for some meaningful charity to put the extra NEMs to good use and great exposure too. Hey just a thought. porn site use tokens for something. How about NEM instead of tokens?  |
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TaunSew
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October 09, 2014, 02:32:06 AM
Last edit: October 09, 2014, 02:43:05 AM by TaunSew |
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Nxt made a lot of people rich, not only the original stakeholder, but everyone else who bought between Nov and December.
If you want to see what's worthless, look at Node, NFD, Crypti, Qora, Nas, and dozens of of other coins.
The question is would Nem would be like Nxt or like Nas, Node and NFD? I suspect the worst, specially with "giveaway" talks in the air.
Nxt was a miracle -- and doesn't look it wil repeated again.
Fair enough, I think the outcome of this discussion is similar to the NEM official forum (give aways probably won't happen?) |
There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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October 09, 2014, 02:33:29 AM |
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Hey just a thought. porn site use tokens for something. How about NEM instead of tokens?
This isn't an original idea, but there is no incentive for porn site to use nem, something that is hard to cash, hard for buyers to buy, prices could be unstable, especially with talk about giveaways. Why on earth would a porn site use nem? The tokens represent real dollars as people buy them for real dollars. At least bitcoins are more easy to cash, but a site like c4s don't even accept bitcoin. It will be a long time before you can convince a major porn site like C4S to accept nem. |
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will777
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October 09, 2014, 02:37:08 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
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TaunSew
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October 09, 2014, 02:52:14 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
Well.. did you spam the captcha?  |
There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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will777
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October 09, 2014, 02:57:48 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not, I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned |
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TaunSew
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October 09, 2014, 03:05:47 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not, I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation. Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you? |
There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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will777
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October 09, 2014, 03:11:27 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not, I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation. Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you? usually use TOR this will be the reason |
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TaunSew
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October 09, 2014, 03:43:19 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not, I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned Well you may have had hit the submit button too many times or there could be another explanation. Probably the way to fix this is to contact Patmast3r and look up one of those websites on Google: "what is my IP" so Patmast3r knows which one you are on the list and he might remove you? usually use TOR this will be the reason There's been blackhat professionals targeting all the crypto currencies. So yes somebody using TOR has probably been banned from trying to brute force the website. |
There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution. The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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nextgencoin
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October 09, 2014, 03:49:52 AM |
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With the fake emails and someone trying to brute force with TOR there are clearly some people who are putting some effort in to steal NEM. The sooner we get our wallets and coins the better IMO.
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rockethead
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October 09, 2014, 05:13:52 AM |
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On the issue of treating unlcaimed funds, have a look here : https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2501.msg6261#msg6261In short, I think the discussion of how to treat the unclaimed stakes will have more clarity if we ask ourselves some questions and try and answer that ourselves before we post them. I would propose that before you make any suggestions do ask yourselves what you want to achieve: Objective(s) of the action - what are you trying to achieve and how are you going to do it. Outcome expected of the action - what results are expected. If we stick by the above, we can quickly come to some great conclusions. |
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patmast3r
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October 09, 2014, 06:19:34 AM |
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Help !!!
I am unable to register my token
it appears to me (You have been banned. Too many failed attempts.)
not, I'm sure I typed right. and since the first time was banned Any chance you're using a VPN, Proxy or TOR ? Bans happen by ip so if other people made mistakes with that ip or deliberately spammed then you won't be able to claim with it either. |
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patmast3r
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October 09, 2014, 06:28:50 AM |
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I have no clear idea yet on what todo with the unclaimed stake but here are the things I'm utterly against doing.
Charity
If we're gonna do that everyone can donate form their own stake. It makes no sense what so ever to use unclaimed stakes to donate to charity. It wouldn't be very charitable actually since those stakes don't actually belong to us.
More for stakeholders
We want to spread NEM wide and far and not give more to the people that already have NEM.
PoW Giveaway
I didn't even no about this idea prior to reading TaunSews post but yeah...totally fucked up imho. Here we are saying how much greener we are and how were not wasting energery and then we go ahead and do this ?
Giving it to celebs
Srsly ?
Destroying them
Basically same deal as with "more for stakeholders".
Using most of it for development
Are we underfunded ? Hell yes ! I still think this would be a bad idea as it would also not spread NEM further unless we figure out a guaranteed way to sell them to many people.
The goal imho has to be to get more people into NEM not get more NEM to the people that are already here many of whom are only in it for the profit anyway.
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makoto1337
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
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October 09, 2014, 06:33:17 AM |
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kattokassinen
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October 09, 2014, 06:44:39 AM |
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Destroying them
Basically same deal as with "more for stakeholders".
That's also more for development and marketing, not just for stakeholders. IMO there's no other good way of handling the unclaimed stakes. There are no perfect alternatives. I can't figure out a good way to spread NEM to wider audience, which ultimately should be our goal. Edit: Well this seems like a very very good idea! |
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mladen00
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K-ing®
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October 09, 2014, 07:01:45 AM |
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let's first see how many stakes will be unclaimed.
I don't think there will be more than 100 stakes
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lordoliver
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expect(brain).toHaveBeenUsed()
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October 09, 2014, 07:17:36 AM |
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I have no clear idea yet on what todo with the unclaimed stake but here are the things I'm utterly against doing.
Charity
If we're gonna do that everyone can donate form their own stake. It makes no sense what so ever to use unclaimed stakes to donate to charity. It wouldn't be very charitable actually since those stakes don't actually belong to us.
More for stakeholders
We want to spread NEM wide and far and not give more to the people that already have NEM.
PoW Giveaway
I didn't even no about this idea prior to reading TaunSews post but yeah...totally fucked up imho. Here we are saying how much greener we are and how were not wasting energery and then we go ahead and do this ?
Giving it to celebs
Srsly ?
Destroying them
Basically same deal as with "more for stakeholders".
Using most of it for development
Are we underfunded ? Hell yes ! I still think this would be a bad idea as it would also not spread NEM further unless we figure out a guaranteed way to sell them to many people.
The goal imho has to be to get more people into NEM not get more NEM to the people that are already here many of whom are only in it for the profit anyway.
Charity: will create price decrease, because it will be just sold. You could also give them dollars... PoW: seems ok for spreading to many people. of course its not green, but its only for the initial distribution Giving to celebs: maybe, but somehow also unfair... using for development: acceptable but not for ALL Destroying or give more to stakeholders: is really the same, thats why destroying is better, because of no additional work with it. destroying raises prices. Thats good for the development and for the stakeholders and the only thing, that makes sence... I don't think we can give anyone else, who is not selling them immediatelly. The main problem of distribution is not to spread on many people but to spread on people who are not just dumping it. |
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patmast3r
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October 09, 2014, 07:58:11 AM |
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Makoto's idea on the NEM forum is the best I have heard so far. The idea could had came from anybody but it does address these capitalization concerns. It does come with the fault that we have to place more trust into some central entity but we original stakeholders have been dealing with that since January and the newer asset exchange stakeholders since June.
You have to view this with a "bang for the buck" approach. Air drop and promotion give aways haven't seen much success in Bitcoin or digital currencies yet. A more successful utilization of these funds is likely to invest into NEM related companies or services and/or to attract venture capital investments.
If we had telepathy and could identify holders (or slow spenders) then I would give NEMstakes to those people. Currently, however, NEM has a price tag of $1000 and many people would just lie and cheat to get that payday.. we've seen people do it for lesser amounts in other coins..
It sure isn't the worst idea no. However I'd like to fund them by selling those NEM and then give them the earnings in BTC or whatever. That way there is funding and distribution. It would create some downwoard pressure but i think we'd survive that. |
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xlcus
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October 09, 2014, 08:12:29 AM |
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Is there a deadline to redeem the token?
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rockethead
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October 09, 2014, 08:35:54 AM |
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I have no clear idea yet on what todo with the unclaimed stake but here are the things I'm utterly against doing.
Charity
If we're gonna do that everyone can donate form their own stake. It makes no sense what so ever to use unclaimed stakes to donate to charity. It wouldn't be very charitable actually since those stakes don't actually belong to us.
More for stakeholders
We want to spread NEM wide and far and not give more to the people that already have NEM.
PoW Giveaway
I didn't even no about this idea prior to reading TaunSews post but yeah...totally fucked up imho. Here we are saying how much greener we are and how were not wasting energery and then we go ahead and do this ?
Giving it to celebs
Srsly ?
Destroying them
Basically same deal as with "more for stakeholders".
Using most of it for development
Are we underfunded ? Hell yes ! I still think this would be a bad idea as it would also not spread NEM further unless we figure out a guaranteed way to sell them to many people.
The goal imho has to be to get more people into NEM not get more NEM to the people that are already here many of whom are only in it for the profit anyway.
I think we all know the goal is to get more people, but how? I wouldn't just write off some of the things that you are "utterly against doing" without dwelling deeper into it. Don't miss the forest for the trees.  |
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