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September 09, 2012, 04:57:05 PM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
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September 09, 2012, 05:07:51 PM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
Good point. Money being given to him to back insured PPT's should not go to pirate, except in the case where he has the personal funds to back it should his bet go wrong. Insurance funds being put into the very asset they are insuring does not pass the giggle test.
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Buffer Overflow
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September 09, 2012, 05:08:39 PM |
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What you need to do hashking, is post a full report of how much you owe, who owes you etc.. List every account and amount (obfuscate usernames obviously) you owe. That way we can get a clearer picture of the situation and your ability to ultimately pay.
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September 09, 2012, 05:19:44 PM |
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What you need to do hashking, is post a full report of how much you owe, who owes you etc.. List every account and amount (obfuscate usernames obviously) you owe. That way we can get a clearer picture of the situation and your ability to ultimately pay.
I like how TangibleCryptography did the repayment of TheBitMint issue. A list, with hashed addresses and the amount owed. Simple, easy to set up, and keeps the users anonymous.
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September 09, 2012, 06:24:16 PM |
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What you need to do hashking, is post a full report of how much you owe, who owes you etc.. List every account and amount (obfuscate usernames obviously) you owe. That way we can get a clearer picture of the situation and your ability to ultimately pay.
This should be the mandament for every PPT - operator to avoid being given a scammer - tag right now !! When any funds are retrieved or even lost, I want to know beforehand the structure of their own levered up ponzis !! Of course this will be ignored, as even complicity of moderators will cover up little Chang - Noi´ s....... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) or would it even be detrimental to BTC community ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Whats the point to excuse scams which explicitly stated to pass coins to pirate of their own misdeeds when they ponzied up the ponzi?? Please explain Zyk
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September 09, 2012, 06:38:17 PM |
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HK, Please check your PMs (even though I understand you are probably flooded with them). I just need to know what withdrawal address I used with you.
Or is it safe to hit the withdraw button after the original term is up with no ill effects?
Leave the withdrawal button alone. I will initiate it once I'm ready to send funds. Then can you answer my other question please?
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September 09, 2012, 06:46:48 PM |
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Hashking should get a scammer tag for this, regardless of whether or not he repays three years from now. He very clearly did not abide by the terms of his agreement.
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September 09, 2012, 06:51:15 PM |
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Hashking should get a scammer tag for this, regardless of whether or not he repays three years from now. He very clearly did not abide by the terms of his agreement.
Admin do appear to be very reluctant about awarding those. Surely the community should decide. Or does that happen already? Forgive me if it does, haven't been a member that long.
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September 09, 2012, 08:20:56 PM |
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Calling him names and demanding your money isn't gonna make much progress at this point. He said payments start monday so lets see if anything happens. It's not like it's weeks away. Like i said before the guy fessed up and didn't have to. He's trying to resolve the situation. Rehashing what he did wrong after the fact especially if you have money with him is gonna lower the chances of getting paid. Why do people keep forgetting that they have zero leverage in this situation they willing put them selves in?
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September 09, 2012, 08:22:25 PM |
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HOW MUCH DID YOU KEEP WITH PIRATE YOU ASSHOLE
This made me laugh hard. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 09, 2012, 08:23:52 PM |
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HK, Please check your PMs (even though I understand you are probably flooded with them). I just need to know what withdrawal address I used with you.
Or is it safe to hit the withdraw button after the original term is up with no ill effects?
Leave the withdrawal button alone. I will initiate it once I'm ready to send funds. Then can you answer my other question please? I did receive your pm. I will contact you before I send any funds out.
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September 09, 2012, 08:26:31 PM |
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HK, Please check your PMs (even though I understand you are probably flooded with them). I just need to know what withdrawal address I used with you.
Or is it safe to hit the withdraw button after the original term is up with no ill effects?
Leave the withdrawal button alone. I will initiate it once I'm ready to send funds. Then can you answer my other question please? I did receive your pm. I will contact you before I send any funds out. Good, thanks.
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September 09, 2012, 08:47:53 PM |
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What deposits will get paid first? How are you going to choose?
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September 09, 2012, 08:58:08 PM |
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What deposits will get paid first? How are you going to choose?
IMO the only fair way is to pay all accounts a proportional percentage with whatever is immediately available, with a 1-1.9%/wk bias to the cumulative interest accounts as they didn't get any return at all yet.
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September 09, 2012, 10:43:39 PM |
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Hashking coud you please answer the (nicely phrased) question I asked? If you do not wish it to be public PM me. I think yo me this much at least (instead of just ignoring me).
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September 10, 2012, 01:37:53 AM |
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That picture made me laugh, hard. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 10, 2012, 03:38:39 AM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
Trust account require WAY MORE than that to get the 7%. I'd say hashking have maybe 30k with pirate. Now, I am NOT saying that is all investors BTC, but nobody really knows except hashking.
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September 10, 2012, 03:39:27 AM |
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this guy deserves a straight scammer tag.
He promised returns on deposits
He did not tell us he would be investing with pirate.
and it does not really matter, I did not invest with pirate I invested with hashking.
Hes a scammer straight up and I will not accept anything different.
SCAMMER TAG FOR HASHKING!
+1. Hashking got pissed when I started to ask questions.
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September 10, 2012, 03:46:02 AM |
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He had a trust account so at least 5,000 BTC, probably a lot more - if it was his own money he's free to do with it as he pleases imo (which I know some others don't agree with), he is not free though to risk his own money in such an obviously high risk venture if that portion of it is being used to back guarantees & insurance given against funds loaned to him & he absolutely can not risk any of those said funds with BST, unless he had other liquid assets to pay back in case of a pirate default.
Trust account require WAY MORE than that to get the 7%. I'd say hashking have maybe 30k with pirate. Now, I am NOT saying that is all investors BTC, but nobody really knows except hashking. Haha. Is this a joke? People really gave pirate those kind of amounts? Without knowing who he is, where he lives, and watching his every move? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Those kind of amounts have a way of landing people at the bottom of a river. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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