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June 05, 2018, 12:25:55 AM
Last edit: June 05, 2018, 12:36:33 AM by ralle14
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Hello fairlay I have a question, how can I convert my "on hold" balance to "available" ? I'm asking this because one of my bets got settled yesterday but the amount went to "on hold" instead of "available".  I looked at the faq a couple of times and I haven't seen anything mentioned about the on hold balance.

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June 05, 2018, 12:28:02 AM
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Hello fairlay I have a question, how can I convert my "on hold" balance to "available" ? I'm asking this because one of my bets got settled yesterday but the amount went to "on hold" instead of "available".  I looked at the faq a couple of times and I haven't seen anything mentioned about the on hold balance.

If you wait 24 hours without making another bet, your on hold balance will be zero.  See our FAQ entry #40.

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June 07, 2018, 09:15:53 PM
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Today I had a wager misguided and I'm receiving very little help in correcting the problem.

I placed a wager on an MLB money line. Both starting pitchers listed did not start, therefore money line wagers should be deemed no action. If someone from Fairlay can give me a hand with this that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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June 08, 2018, 06:22:19 PM
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i really wish management would do away with this hold on funds anytime there is a winner

i used to use your exchange everyday

now i find myself lucky to make a bet a day waiting for my funds to be released off a hold

just double check the games you grade and hire intelligent employees.

dont know why we have to suffer because of misgrades



other than that, fairlay would be my best sportsbook

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June 08, 2018, 06:28:56 PM
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totally agree fairlay has become somewhat a joke since this rule change.

can you guys name another exchange or sportsbook that holds your winnings for 24 hrs?

whoever came up with this idea, should be fired.
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June 08, 2018, 07:57:51 PM
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totally agree fairlay has become somewhat a joke since this rule change.

can you guys name another exchange or sportsbook that holds your winnings for 24 hrs?

whoever came up with this idea, should be fired.
Bitcoin as payment, no KYC and instant cashouts really require us to have such a rule as explained in the FAQ entry.

We could however offer accounts that pay an additional fee (probably arount 0.1% on all winnigs) but are exempted from the "on hold" rule. If there is enough demand for it, we will do it.

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June 15, 2018, 02:44:33 AM
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totally agree fairlay has become somewhat a joke since this rule change.

can you guys name another exchange or sportsbook that holds your winnings for 24 hrs?

whoever came up with this idea, should be fired.
Bitcoin as payment, no KYC and instant cashouts really require us to have such a rule as explained in the FAQ entry.

We could however offer accounts that pay an additional fee (probably arount 0.1% on all winnigs) but are exempted from the "on hold" rule. If there is enough demand for it, we will do it.


It's live. The additional commission is 0.1%  (except for dice / altcoin exchanges and independent from your reduction) if you want us to take over the risks associated with the "on hold" rule being deactivated. You may change this setting for your account every 7 days.

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June 15, 2018, 07:15:31 AM
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totally agree fairlay has become somewhat a joke since this rule change.

can you guys name another exchange or sportsbook that holds your winnings for 24 hrs?

whoever came up with this idea, should be fired.
Bitcoin as payment, no KYC and instant cashouts really require us to have such a rule as explained in the FAQ entry.

We could however offer accounts that pay an additional fee (probably arount 0.1% on all winnigs) but are exempted from the "on hold" rule. If there is enough demand for it, we will do it.


It's live. The additional commission is 0.1%  (except for dice / altcoin exchanges and independent from your reduction) if you want us to take over the risks associated with the "on hold" rule being deactivated. You may change this setting for your account every 7 days.

Wow, that's called acting quick Cheesy
Took you only a week!
Good work heh Smiley Smiley

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June 15, 2018, 08:37:36 AM
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Is it true you now require KYC? I read it somewhere but couldn't find it on your website. Please clarify if true or not, wouldnt want to deposit then have to send personal documents before withdrawing. Its been some time since I used fairlay. Thank you.
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June 15, 2018, 07:38:53 PM
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We now have Fairlay Shift - a new release on our platform where you can exchange cryptocurrencies instantly. Come and check it out!

https://blog.fairlay.com/post/174921759764/introducing-fairlay-shift-exchange

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June 15, 2018, 08:45:30 PM
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Is it true you now require KYC? I read it somewhere but couldn't find it on your website. Please clarify if true or not, wouldnt want to deposit then have to send personal documents before withdrawing. Its been some time since I used fairlay. Thank you.

That's not correct. You still can create an instant account without inputing any personal information, and regular accounts only require a valid email address. You can withdraw your funds anytime, no matter which account type you have.

If you still have any questions regarding it, please ask assistance on our trollbox at Fairlay.com.

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June 20, 2018, 09:58:01 PM
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How about adding a Nobel Peace Prize 2018 market and using the UK betting odds to do it? 

I personally don't have the expertise to do it - but I think you either do it internally or have market makers who do it.

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June 30, 2018, 04:18:30 PM
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excuse me, what if i don't have a bank statement or any utility bill since i don't have my own house yet(the reason i don't use a normal bookmaker and betting exchange), is a passport enough for a KYC procedure?
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June 30, 2018, 10:09:23 PM
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excuse me, what if i don't have a bank statement or any utility bill since i don't have my own house yet(the reason i don't use a normal bookmaker and betting exchange), is a passport enough for a KYC procedure?

You can use Fairlay without doing any KYC.

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July 05, 2018, 09:45:20 AM
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is it me or fairlay don't have many odds. i mean always half of them is blank. is it the bots that doing the fast betting, making the option sold out? or something else?
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July 05, 2018, 06:07:08 PM
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is it me or fairlay don't have many odds. i mean always half of them is blank. is it the bots that doing the fast betting, making the option sold out? or something else?

I guess it depends on the game that you want to bet on , cause the games I play usually have good liquidity so can bet that without having a problem
but when I used to bet on horses with fairlay this used to happen a lot , some horses used to be blank since the liquidity wan't stable so some mbtcs going in and out
if that's the case you just need to keep an eye on the line and bet when the market is available
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July 08, 2018, 03:14:40 AM
Last edit: July 08, 2018, 03:33:33 AM by sunestockholder
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PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK YOUR ACCOUNT. FAIRLAY TRIED TO STEAL FUNDS FROM ME IN A MARKET THEY INCORRECTLY GRADED. NOW THEY WANT TO CHARGE ME 5MBTC TO EMAIL THEIR VIP SUPPORT TO FIX THEIR PROBLEM.

NOW AS A RESULT OF THEIR ERROR, I CANNOT MAKE ANY WAGERS AFTER I MADE A DEPOSIT TODAY

THIS IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. AS A LOYAL CUSTOMER I EXPECT MORE FROM THEM. AND THIS IS FRUSTRATING HAVING TO GO THROUGH AND WAIT TO GET IT FIXED.


BUT LET ME EXPLAIN HOW MY ACCOUNT IS MESSED UP. THEY DOUBLE CHARGE ME FOR A FUTURE WAGER IN THE WORLD CUP MARKET.

FIRST OFF IN THIS MARKET: https://fairlay.com/market/fifa-world-cup-2018/
in my account statement i was given the following:
07/07/2018 16:12 world cup 2018 -89.67

NOW THIS IS NOT RIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE DONE THE FOLLOWING WORLD CUP WAGERS.

MY FIRST WORLD CUP WAGER IN THE MARKET WAS CROATIA AT 34/1 FOR A TOTAL OF 49.84 MBTC
I THEN SOLD THAT PLAY BACK WHEN CROATIA WAS AROUND 15/1 ODDS. I THEN BOUGHT RUSSIA AT 54/1 AND THEN SOLD BACK AT AROUND 20/1. I THEN USED MY PROFITS OF 89.67 TO BET ON COLOMBIA FOR THE WORLD CUP, WHO LOST. HOWEVER, THIS WAS MADE USING MY PROFITS IN THE MARKET. WHICH ALLOWED ME TO WAGER EVEN THOUGH MY ACCOUNT WAS 0 BECAUSE I WAS GETTING A PROFIT NO MATTER WHICH COUNTRY WON THE WORLD CUP. I EVEN SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU GUYS A FEW DAYS ASKING IF YOU CAN PAY ME OUT IN THIS MARKET BEFORE I EVEN MADE THAT COLOMBIA WAGER BECAUSE I WAS GETTING A PROFIT NO MATTER WHO WON THE WORLD CUP. SO HENCE, I USED PROFITS FROM MY ORIGINAL WAGER TO WAGER ALL THE WAGERS IN THIS MARKET AFTER THAT. NOW FAIRPLAY TRIED TO GET ME TWICE BY SAYING -89.67MBTC TODAY AFTER RUSSIA GOT DEFEATED. BUT MY NET IS RUSSIA WON WAS 4MBTC AND 0 IF THEY LOST.

TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE THEY BASICALLY ARE SAYING OH WE ALLOWED YOU TO BET WITHOUT DEDUCTING MY ACCOUNT. WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE. AS MY PROFITS WERE USED TO MAKE THIS WAGER INITIALLY. WHY WOULD MY ACCOUNT BE DEDUCTED AFTER THE BET LOST? ISNT DEDUCTED AFTER YOU MAKE A WAGER??? . ITS PRETTY SIMPLE LOGIC. BUT TRY EXPLAINING THAT VIA EMAIL TO 5MBTC@FAIRLAY.COM WITHOUT BEING CONFUSING.

SO TODAY AFTER THE RUSSIA GAME, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY DID I GET THIS
-89.67MMBTC OUT OF MY ACCOUNT?
THERE IS NO REASON WHY THIS SHOULD HAVE CAME OUT OF MY ACCOUNT TODAY

THIS IS WRONG, AND I DONT KNOW HOW MANY OTHERS ARE GOING THROUGH THIS.
I THEN WAS NOT ABLE TO MAKE A WAGER AFTER I MADE A DEPOSIT TODAY WHICH ENDED UP COSTING ME .

HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN OF MY PROFITS. NO MATTER WHICH COUNTRY WON, I WAS GETTING A PROFIT. IT SHOULD NOT HAVE MATTER IF RUSSIA WAS ELIMINATED AS I ALREADY SOLD THAT WAGER BACK.

SO PLEASE FIX ASAP.  
ITS BASICALLY THEY TOOK OUT THE FUNDS FROM THE COKLOMBIA BET TWICE. ONCE WHEN I MADE THE WAGER (USING MY PROFITS FROM THIS MARKET) AND TODAY WHEN THEY DEDUCTED 89.67MBTC FROM MY ACCOUNT!

HERE IS PAYOUT BREAKDOWN, SHOWING REGARDLESS OF WHO WON, WHAT MY PROFIT WAS. MOST COUNTRIES IT WAS 0.  
Brazil
0.00
Germany
0.00
Spain
0.00
France
0.00

3.067
130

3.200
1059
Argentina
0.00
Belgium
0.00

3.866
1310

4.051
56
England
0.00

3.788
31

3.930
1686
Portugal
0.00
Uruguay
0.00
Croatia
3.81

5.777
479

6.279
197
Colombia
1,925.30
Russia
4.91
Poland
0.00
Switzerland
0.00
Denmark
0.00
Mexico
0.00
Senegal
0.00
Egypt
0.00

here are all my matched wagers from this market:

MATCHED ORDERS
MARKET   PRICE   RUNNER   MATCHED   LAST MATCHED   SETTLE DATE

FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   0.84   06/16/2018 14:45   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   14.647   Croatia   3.74   06/22/2018 13:43   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   4.00   06/16/2018 14:50   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   21.471   Russia   4.62   07/01/2018 17:25   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   5.00   06/16/2018 14:47   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   10.00   06/16/2018 14:44   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   12.00   06/16/2018 14:45   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   34.143   Croatia   17.00   06/16/2018 14:45   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   54.614   Russia   47.23   06/25/2018 01:51   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.061   Croatia   255.67   06/22/2018 10:48   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.061   Croatia   340.00   06/22/2018 10:46   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.061   Croatia   422.99   06/22/2018 10:47   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.061   Croatia   600.02   06/22/2018 10:24   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.036   Russia   957.49   07/01/2018 13:24   07/10/2018 16:02
FIFA World Cup 2018   1.036   Russia   1,621.91   07/01/2018 13:36   07/10/2018
FIFA World Cup 2018   21.471   Colombia   89.67   07/01/2018 17:25   -89.67 (the market allowed me to make this wager because was getting back a profit of 89mbtc regardless of who won the world cup at that time)

now they double charge me taking out 89mbtc from my account today.    
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July 08, 2018, 03:40:26 AM
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im sure they will fix it. it's an obvious error on their part. unless your betting on credit lol.

but the wager was taking from my account the first time, why would they need to take it out of your account again?

but i would trend carefully with fairlay as they could easily be doing this to a lot of customer who dont notice it.

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July 08, 2018, 10:19:23 AM
Last edit: July 08, 2018, 10:29:26 AM by FairlaySupport
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@sunestockholder

>99% of all markets  are settled when the winner is determined. Here it's a bit different, some runners are settled earlier, so the behaviour is a bit different. That's why you currently have a negative balance, which seems strange at first. The reason is that your sure profit from your Croatia bets is not yet settled.  Please wait till the end of the tournament / or when Croatia exits and everything will be in order.  We know it's not optimal, but  there are reasons for this so we cannot change this behaviour.

In a nutshell, your sure profits from your Croatia bets can only be used to place bets on runners of the same market, not on other markets.

Sorry we cannot help you with this except ask you to wait. 

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July 08, 2018, 10:33:07 AM
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@fairlaysupport that does not make any sense. I sold my russia wager back and they got knocked out, what happened to my profits from that wager? why does it only work if bought a team ,shouldn't the market work both ways? why will it be settled when croatia gets knocked out? i already sold back the position.
the logic here is bizarre . when a bet loses it comes out of your balance not your available balance. seems like this rule is in effect just to be able to "hold funds". why would you guys take out of the account twice?



anyways so why wasn't i told this before i made a deposit today as I am not allowed to make another wager till tournament is over? dont you think this is unfair as i made a deposit to make a wager on tonight's soccer games?  don't you think is important info to clients?

no way on your rules does it mention this



can something be done so i can wager today?? it would be greatly appreciated as a loyal client.
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