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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days.
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May 19, 2015, 01:59:51 AM Last edit: May 19, 2015, 02:13:21 PM by TiTori2 |
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now Try to experiment with a 10k-15k block size. It will translate into a 100k-150k weight on the 10th day of the block age. Sizes below 10k still apply but you'll need to wait more for your first stake.
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May 19, 2015, 04:38:28 PM |
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now Try to experiment with a 10k-15k block size. It will translate into a 100k-150k weight on the 10th day of the block age. Sizes below 10k still apply but you'll need to wait more for your first stake. Yes, I have all my blocks at 25k now and at day 10 the weight is ~250k. Almost all of mine stake within 15-17 days depending on difficulty.
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presstab (OP)
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May 20, 2015, 01:41:09 AM |
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now Try to experiment with a 10k-15k block size. It will translate into a 100k-150k weight on the 10th day of the block age. Sizes below 10k still apply but you'll need to wait more for your first stake. Yes, I have all my blocks at 25k now and at day 10 the weight is ~250k. Almost all of mine stake within 15-17 days depending on difficulty. [20:34] <-- mafort1469 (473ab20e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.xx.xx.xx.xx) has left this server (Quit: Page closed). [20:38] <billotronic> fuck i missed him booo! hope all is well yo!
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May 20, 2015, 04:25:55 AM |
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congrats on securing another permanent home for HyperStake
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May 20, 2015, 04:27:29 AM |
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guys a quick question keeping in view current difficulty what will be the stake value for 10K coins if they setup in proper blocks.
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May 20, 2015, 10:15:47 AM |
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now Try to experiment with a 10k-15k block size. It will translate into a 100k-150k weight on the 10th day of the block age. Sizes below 10k still apply but you'll need to wait more for your first stake. Yes, I have all my blocks at 25k now and at day 10 the weight is ~250k. Almost all of mine stake within 15-17 days depending on difficulty. so it better to have one 25k block or a 15k block?
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May 20, 2015, 12:47:16 PM |
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congrats on securing another permanent home for HyperStake yes, very nice!
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presstab (OP)
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May 20, 2015, 02:56:53 PM |
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so it better to have one 25k block or a 15k block?
Depends on what you consider "better". If better means quick stake, then go with the 25k block. If better means best return on your money, then go with the 15k block. Lets assume that on average you will stake around 200k stake weight. It would take the 15k block about 13.5 days to get there and it would stake a 1k block reward, an annualized stake rate of 180%. The 25k block would be at 200k right before the 8.8 day maturity, and assuming it stakes right at 8.8 days (unlikely) it would yield a 1k block which comes out to a 166% annualized reward. So it is about your preference of wait time vs higher reward %.
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mafort1469
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May 20, 2015, 03:02:15 PM |
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It looks like the spent weight per block is anywhere from 30k -250k with 150k looking to be the average (back of the envelope calculations).
I'm new in the HyperStake world and I saw that the wiki isn't update, so I change the value 4000 HYP with 150k HYP in this page : http://hyperstake.wikia.com/wiki/What_is_PoS%3F?action=edit§ion=2(Before, with the wiki I was thinking I was rich with my 10k HYP, but in fact not ^_^'' ) presstab was talking about the weight of 150k, not the block size. A block of 150k HYP will give 1,5m weight in 10 days. Oh, ok, thank you, then what are the best block size now? Because a block with 10k HYP is on "medium-high" priority and a 3.5k is less (I don't remember what is written on the priority column). Édit : I re-update the wiki for changing 150k with 4000, like it was before, but it's far from "the" good value now Try to experiment with a 10k-15k block size. It will translate into a 100k-150k weight on the 10th day of the block age. Sizes below 10k still apply but you'll need to wait more for your first stake. Yes, I have all my blocks at 25k now and at day 10 the weight is ~250k. Almost all of mine stake within 15-17 days depending on difficulty. so it better to have one 25k block or a 15k block? This is up to you to decide. If you want quicker stakes then you need larger block sizes (larger block size = more coin weight = quicker stakes in theory). If you don't care about time to stake then you can have smaller block sizes. For instance my block sizes of 25k usually stake twice in a month. Having smaller block sizes usually means that the block will usually take longer to stake. This all depends on difficulty of course. Once difficultly stays above 30 consistently then I probably will match my block size to the average difficulty (ex: avg. difficulty = 35 then my block size would be 35K).
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May 20, 2015, 04:18:35 PM |
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So is the 750% per year stake not possible any more?
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presstab (OP)
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May 20, 2015, 05:05:26 PM |
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So is the 750% per year stake not possible any more?
Still possible and people are still hitting it quite often. Look at the annual stake rate chart to see what people have been staking recently http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/index.php
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May 20, 2015, 05:15:56 PM |
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So what would be the best method to hit the max? With that being the goal, not caring about frequency.
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May 20, 2015, 10:03:15 PM |
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So is the 750% per year stake not possible any more?
Still possible and people are still hitting it quite often. Look at the annual stake rate chart to see what people have been staking recently http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/index.phpHow are those stake percentage values calculated? Are you sure those numbers on the chart are not using the uncapped theoretical reward amount rather than the 1000 reward hard cap that I think almost everyone must be hitting? I have a hard time believing that any one has small enough blocks (ie <4000) that are not limited by the 1000 cap and are staking in a <20 day time period to make it even a possibility of hitting the ballpark of 750% annual. From the above post re block size, with blocks of 25K taking ~15days to stake that is giving ~4% reward (1000/25000) with ~24 stake rounds/year (365/15) giving an instantaneous annual rate of 96%. Actual annual rate would of course be less than that as typical staking block sizes continue to grow leading to a diminishing reward% per round (ie next round 1000/26000 = 3.8% reward).
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presstab (OP)
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May 20, 2015, 11:24:04 PM |
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So is the 750% per year stake not possible any more?
Still possible and people are still hitting it quite often. Look at the annual stake rate chart to see what people have been staking recently http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/HYP/index.phpHow are those stake percentage values calculated? Are you sure those numbers on the chart are not using the uncapped theoretical reward amount rather than the 1000 reward hard cap that I think almost everyone must be hitting? I have a hard time believing that any one has small enough blocks (ie <4000) that are not limited by the 1000 cap and are staking in a <20 day time period to make it even a possibility of hitting the ballpark of 750% annual. From the above post re block size, with blocks of 25K taking ~15days to stake that is giving ~4% reward (1000/25000) with ~24 stake rounds/year (365/15) giving an instantaneous annual rate of 96%. Actual annual rate would of course be less than that as typical staking block sizes continue to grow leading to a diminishing reward% per round (ie next round 1000/26000 = 3.8% reward). They are using the actual reward. Feel free to investigate into some of them and work out the math yourself. It is always possible that there is an error in the chart and calculations, but I know I myself do see blocks that aren't 1k reward.
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May 20, 2015, 11:25:39 PM |
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HyperStake Version 1.1.1.0 - Not Mandatory, but fixes cpu consumption bug among other things. Changelog MultiSend GUI fix high cpu consumption if coins are not mature More efficient CNetMessage processing Gitian compatible getinfo displays if staking is active more input info to RPC calls that use TxToJson keep maps from using too much memory listblocks RPC testnet now operational https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/releases/tag/v1.1.1.0
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May 20, 2015, 11:27:54 PM |
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and iDunk and myself are toying around with smaller block sizes and if you look at my stakes and I have been getting a fair amount of uncapped stakes with blocks < 3k
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May 20, 2015, 11:31:47 PM |
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HyperStake Version 1.1.1.0 - Not Mandatory, but fixes cpu consumption bug among other things. Changelog MultiSend GUI fix high cpu consumption if coins are not mature More efficient CNetMessage processing Gitian compatible getinfo displays if staking is active more input info to RPC calls that use TxToJson keep maps from using too much memory listblocks RPC testnet now operational https://github.com/hyperstake/HyperStake/releases/tag/v1.1.1.0 um, excuse me bossman, but the Multisend GUI should be in big bold flamming red like so: Changelog MultiSend GUI fix high cpu consumption if coins are not mature More efficient CNetMessage processing Gitian compatible getinfo displays if staking is active more input info to RPC calls that use TxToJson keep maps from using too much memory listblocks RPC testnet now operational
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