[Moderated] [ANN][URO] First Urea Commodity Token: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea

[hobopete]

I already answered every one of these questions in my previous posts.
If they are beyond your understanding, you need to educate yourself.

[Truthful]

I already answered every one of these questions in my previous posts.
If they are beyond your understanding, you need to educate yourself.

No I don't because your replies are incorrect or don't answer the questions.

Answers to what?

[corather]

I already answered every one of these questions in my previous posts.
If they are beyond your understanding, you need to educate yourself.

bump

[hobopete]

You post links to public information so readily, but do you actually know how to fill those forms out and what they entail, or even how the process is supposed to work?
You try to draw in naive readers with innuendo and a semblance of authority, yet when it comes down to your personal ability to disseminate the information you post you are unable to.
You have no credibility at this time and have been proven for a liar and manipulator.
I am admittedly a manipulator, but I DON'T LIE.
If this were a scam I'd be the first to kill it.
I just don't have anything convincing to mistrust GES or Bohan.
Even though I've fought with them too.
They replied with useful data which was verifiable through independent third party sources.
What have you got?
Distraction and emotional appeals.
You obviously know more about this than you are revealing.
Yet you twist everything to your own advantage
And every time you try to cast doubt on my reports I will post factual information easily verifiable to refute you.
Unless you are correct, in which case I will support you.
I will stop this Fud.
Or prove it.
Right now, it does not look good for you guys...

[corather]

The problem you're having pete is Truthful is indeed mentally ill. You cannot argue reason with the mentally ill.

[codmaster]

The problem you're having pete is Truthful is indeed mentally ill. You cannot argue reason with the mentally ill.

hes not mentally ill, thats complimentary and means he cant help it, hes just an annoying helmet that needs some attention
 and someone to argue with

[hobopete]

Have a look at this

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-6-debtors-petition-pdf

It's available from

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/forms-for-declaring-bankruptcy

Yes, I could file for bankruptcy right now. That does not mean I am broke. It simply stops all creditors until the situation is reviewed by the court. bankruptcy includes financial review and counseling before the petition will even be accepted.
It is not just , o.K., I'm broke, I filed,  Judge decides. It's a long and involved process with many alternative solutions available during the process and much input from everyone involved.
That's why I need to see a judgement.
A judgment is a final solution verified by independent third parties.
Fact vs could be.

[hobopete]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

[Truthful]

You post links to public information so readily, but do you actually know how to fill those forms out and what they entail, or even how the process is supposed to work?
You try to draw in naive readers with innuendo and a semblance of authority, yet when it comes down to your personal ability to disseminate the information you post you are unable to.
You have no credibility at this time and have been proven for a liar and manipulator.
I am admittedly a manipulator, but I DON'T LIE.
If this were a scam I'd be the first to kill it.
I just don't have anything convincing to mistrust GES or Bohan.
Even though I've fought with them too.
They replied with useful data which was verifiable through independent third party sources.
What have you got?
Distraction and emotional appeals.
You obviously know more about this than you are revealing.
Yet you twist everything to your own advantage
And every time you try to cast doubt on my reports I will post factual information easily verifiable to refute you.
Unless you are correct, in which case I will support you.
I will stop this Fud.
Or prove it.
Right now, it does not look good for you guys...

I have posted factual information and provided you with the sources that prove my points to be true.

How is posting relevant information from credible sources such as these making me to be a liar?

http://www.docdroid.net/f94l/bankruptcy-search-1.pdf.html


How are the following comments false?

Why are you supposedly investigating GES AU when it had been repeatedly claimed that GES AU has nothing to do with the Uro. It has been repeatedly claimed that GES HK is involved with the Uro! Nilesh Nair is the sole director of GES HK.

It must be a lie that GES AU has nothing to do with Uro for you to be investigating it!

So GES AU and GES HK are involved in this Uro, thanks for confirming this.

"If I declare bankruptcy, does that mean my 65 billion dollar per year organization is broke?" That's silly as the money from your organization is your income! So if you are personally bankrupt then what does that say about the companies earnings??

My question has always been how is a bankrupt person who is the sole director of GES HK have $25 million to pay for the commitments to Uro?? Or to sell Urea??

You don't need a lawyer to file for bankruptcy! It was a debtors petition, in other words Nilesh Nair filed for his own bankruptcy. He just needs to fill out some forms!

Have a look at this

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-6-debtors-petition-pdf

It's available from

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/forms-for-declaring-bankruptcy

Yes anyone can do it, but why would you if you are financially sound??

[corather]

The problem you're having pete is Truthful is indeed mentally ill. You cannot argue reason with the mentally ill.

hes not mentally ill, thats complimentary and means he cant help it, hes just an annoying helmet that needs some attention
 and someone to argue with

I respectfully disagree. Many of his posts contain a sense of self importance and grandiose delusion. I think his behavior goes beyond annoying into something psychiatric.

[wyospl]

Hobopete please stop replying to Truthful, no one wants to hear what he has to say.  He is going to keep arguing forever.  Thanks...

[Truthful]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

[corather]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

Yes you do. The court is directly involved.

[Truthful]

Have a look at this

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-6-debtors-petition-pdf

It's available from

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/forms-for-declaring-bankruptcy

Yes, I could file for bankruptcy right now. That does not mean I am broke. It simply stops all creditors until the situation is reviewed by the court. bankruptcy includes financial review and counseling before the petition will even be accepted.
It is not just , o.K., I'm broke, I filed,  Judge decides. It's a long and involved process with many alternative solutions available during the process and much input from everyone involved.
That's why I need to see a judgement.
A judgment is a final solution verified by independent third parties.
Fact vs could be.

Bankruptcy does mean you are broke. You can't pay what you owe or are attempting to avoid paying what you owe!

[hobopete]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

Another lie. The petition you fill out is asking for legal protection from the court. You have obviously not read or cannot understand the ramifications of my previous posts. This conversation is over.

[Truthful]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

Yes you do. The court is directly involved.

No you don't didn't you see the forms that I posted that any person can download, fill in and then present it to the authorites to have it processed!

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-6-debtors-petition-pdf

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/forms-for-declaring-bankruptcy

[hobopete]

Please watch the thread at
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742456.20
For more information as it becomes available.
Thank You.

[Truthful]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

Another lie. The petition you fill out is asking for legal protection from the court. You have obviously not read or cannot understand the ramifications of my previous posts. This conversation is over.

No, you fill out the form, it says, "Application to become Bankrupt". The following website https://www.afsa.gov.au/debtors/bankruptcy/debtors-petition says this:

Complete and lodge a debtor's petition and statement of affairs
If you decide to proceed, you will need to complete and lodge a:

Debtor's petition (application to become bankrupt; includes signed acknowledgement of Prescribed Information)
Statement of affairs.
The debtor's petition must be completed and lodged with the Official Receiver within 28 days of the form being signed by you.

When completing your forms:

Answer all questions and answer them truthfully.
If they do not apply to you, please write “N/A” (not applicable).  Penalties apply for providing false or misleading information.
Ensure you have read and understood the prescribed information, located on the back of the debtor's petition form.
Forms and instructions are available at 'Forms for declaring bankruptcy'.

Send your completed application within 28 days of signing  to:

Email: registry@afsa.gov.au or,
Post: GPO Box 1550, ADELAIDE SA 5001.

Where does it state that you need to have it processed in court??

[hobopete]

There may never be any judgement , the petition may be withdrawn by consent of the creditors involved upon satisfactory terms, or the court may decide that there are sufficient assets to satisfy all creditors and approve a repayment schedule, or simply dismiss the case as frivolous.
Many outcomes.
A start to proceedings means NOTHING.

You don't need a court to file for your own personal bankruptcy.

Yes you do. The court is directly involved.

No you don't didn't you see the forms that I posted that any person can download, fill in and then present it to the authorites to have it processed!

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-6-debtors-petition-pdf

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/forms-for-declaring-bankruptcy

Although it's demeaning to reply to stupidity, I just have to point out that " the authorities", are, in fact, the courts.
who do you think decides these cases, a traffic cop?

[hobopete]

It is called a "Judge"ment for the simple reason that it is rendered by a "judge"....