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Author Topic: ApexCoin Rebirth - Minable Proof Of Stake - Web Wallet - BlockNet Association  (Read 249896 times)
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August 07, 2014, 05:34:58 AM
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Yes I agree - proof of time is more reliable than POD. Smiley

I was looking at it more as a PR-thing, doing either or both is good.
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August 07, 2014, 05:52:15 AM
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Yes I agree - proof of time is more reliable than POD. Smiley

I was looking at it more as a PR-thing, doing either or both is good.

Both would be nice hehe.  Smiley
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August 07, 2014, 06:22:35 AM
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Its funny you guys mention @cryptoasian, as we were throwing that idea around earlier today. The problem is, for the time being the devs would prefer to remain anonymous unless either a new legislation was passed and it became required for us to make our identities public, or if a well established organization asked us to disclose such information before getting in bed with us (metaphorically, duh). That said, if we remain anonymous then the highest we can get is 3 PODs, and the majority of the coins who have applied have 4 PODs, with 1 coin with 2 PODs. Therefore we risk receiving bad PR from this route. Then again, some are of the philosophy that any PR is better than no PR...
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August 07, 2014, 08:13:29 AM
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Good to see that a bit of humor around this thread is not immediately seen as fud.
Humor kept me from abandoning APEX anyway.
So I also wanna thank klopper, bitcoinbitchez and everyone else that let me have a good laugh at this thread and now on to more serious biz with my new webwallet.
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August 07, 2014, 09:40:35 AM
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Hi Dev,

The end goal ultimately for APEX is to achieve merchant adoption. So, what springs to mind is that the wallet has to be the platform that facilitates trade, and also is a ledger that keeps 'accounts'.

At the current moment we need an intervention currency, in our case it would be BTC.

Maybe a service can be put into the wallet where you can use (convert) APEX (to BTC) to buy goods and services offered in BTC. Now that bitcoins is gaining mainstream adaptation. We could use this as an 'intervention' currency to help people to actually spend APEX on real world items.

This has already been implemented by SaffronCoin.

They also now have an option to buy SFR through paypal.

Perhaps its time to Adapt? to Thrive?

I was talking about 'accounts' earlier.

This is purely an idea to speculate upon.

Traders could also use an APEX portal. This would be the market place to advertise their goods (like a mini EBAY). I suppose this decentralized market would have to be built first with all the tools to connect traders.

My initial idea was books. Ebooks. Right now maybe books related to hashing algorithms. Networks, bitcoins, Crypto-currencies. People could upload these books in exchange for APEX (through downloads). Since majority of the traders in crypto barely understand jack-shit about it. And music, i use beatport to download good quality music. Maybe the community can share their music in exchange for small amounts of APEX. Ofcourse we're looking at licensing and stuff like that, but its more or less the same thing as selling CD's in a music store, but digital files. Even other entertainment like pieces.

In the APEX wallet there could be like a downloads section maybe where you can store music, pdf's, and so on, onyour local pc. I suppose now we're looking at an online-offline storage system that has records of things purchased on the APEX portal that uniquely is linked to the wallet. So, if your computer crashes still there is record of your purchase from the market place and still you're able to download previously purchased items.

Another idea i had was giving buyers the option of paying in alternative cryptos.
A system that benefits APEX.

For example:

I have an ebook for sale. and my friend want to pay for this ebook with DRK. The system would ideally sell the DRK for BTC (at the existing buy order), and then use the BTC to purchase APEX (at the existing sell order). The apex purchased is given to me at the agreed price. This way there would be continuous buy support for APEX. More volume too.

Im just spilling out ideas here. Maybe it can be put into good use.

Thanks Smiley









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August 07, 2014, 07:43:47 PM
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Hi Dev,

The end goal ultimately for APEX is to achieve merchant adoption. So, what springs to mind is that the wallet has to be the platform that facilitates trade, and also is a ledger that keeps 'accounts'.

At the current moment we need an intervention currency, in our case it would be BTC.

Maybe a service can be put into the wallet where you can use (convert) APEX (to BTC) to buy goods and services offered in BTC. Now that bitcoins is gaining mainstream adaptation. We could use this as an 'intervention' currency to help people to actually spend APEX on real world items.

This has already been implemented by SaffronCoin.

They also now have an option to buy SFR through paypal.

Perhaps its time to Adapt? to Thrive?

I was talking about 'accounts' earlier.

This is purely an idea to speculate upon.

Traders could also use an APEX portal. This would be the market place to advertise their goods (like a mini EBAY). I suppose this decentralized market would have to be built first with all the tools to connect traders.

My initial idea was books. Ebooks. Right now maybe books related to hashing algorithms. Networks, bitcoins, Crypto-currencies. People could upload these books in exchange for APEX (through downloads). Since majority of the traders in crypto barely understand jack-shit about it. And music, i use beatport to download good quality music. Maybe the community can share their music in exchange for small amounts of APEX. Ofcourse we're looking at licensing and stuff like that, but its more or less the same thing as selling CD's in a music store, but digital files. Even other entertainment like pieces.

In the APEX wallet there could be like a downloads section maybe where you can store music, pdf's, and so on, onyour local pc. I suppose now we're looking at an online-offline storage system that has records of things purchased on the APEX portal that uniquely is linked to the wallet. So, if your computer crashes still there is record of your purchase from the market place and still you're able to download previously purchased items.

Another idea i had was giving buyers the option of paying in alternative cryptos.
A system that benefits APEX.

For example:

I have an ebook for sale. and my friend want to pay for this ebook with DRK. The system would ideally sell the DRK for BTC (at the existing buy order), and then use the BTC to purchase APEX (at the existing sell order). The apex purchased is given to me at the agreed price. This way there would be continuous buy support for APEX. More volume too.

Im just spilling out ideas here. Maybe it can be put into good use.

Thanks Smiley


There are some nice ideas in there. The payment processor piggyback that SFR has is something we have been looking into and will be working on in the background as we work on wallet updates, because the ability for users to spend APEX anywhere BTC is accepted is too good to pass up. We just cannot currently give a release date.

As for portal for music/ebooks, that is something else we want to have included into the wallet. At first we did not want to do music/ebooks due to licensing issues, but now that we think about it, they would probably be the easiest to implement. The mini ebay idea was also something we are considering, but requires us to act as escrow for physical trades. This would be much easier for digital purchases, as we can code decentralization into the system, but that leaves music, ebooks, and mostly porn. We are unsure if that is the direction we want to head in at this time.
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August 07, 2014, 07:49:30 PM
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When will the code be available for the new wallet?

Seems like someone wants to steal it for Confessioncoin go figure the dev figured it out and now someone wants to steal it already.  

That is the main reason we are discussing it first. It hasn't even been 24 hours and looks like another dev is trying to take it.

In other news, we are also discussing adding legitimate merchant websites into the wallet. This will not only allow users to spend their coins right out of the wallet, but gives legitimate businesses incentive to adopt APEX acceptance in the form of free advertisement for their website. If you are a legitimate business and this interests you, please send me a PM.

Hate to be sarcastic, but I kind of expected an accusation for asking for the source of an open source project.  And I truly have no interest in "stealing" your code for adding a webpage to a Qt app -- of course ConfessionCoin does that already and I helped out on that.  What I'm curious about is the build process -- if you're cross compiling or building natively, and I can find that out very quickly from seeing the code and trying to build it.

I'm disappointed you (as the official dev account) jumped to that conclusion.  I'm of the opinion that keeping your coin code secret doesn't add any advantages ... apparently your users feel differently.  C'est le vie.

Sorry for jumping to conclusions, but I did not personally read up on Confessioncoin. I simply saw a newbie account with only a handful of posts on their thread and jumped to that conclusion, and I apologize. As for your question, I'm pretty sure it was built natively, but will confirm when the coder wakes in the morning.

No problem, thanks for that response.  I am still curious if it's built natively (that's my guess anyway) if you don't mind following up.

BTW, I saw you said you're doing direct payments from the wallet, which ConfessionCoin also does.  Seems like your devs have a handle on it, but there's at least that point of reference in the CFN github if it comes in handy.

Confirmed with coder, it was built natively.
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August 07, 2014, 09:45:53 PM
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Confirmed with coder, it was built natively.

Ok, thanks  Smiley
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1. Will be this wallet available for android?
2. How long for start staking coins?
THx. im keepin eye on it.Apex need to rise!!
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August 07, 2014, 10:43:43 PM
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1. Will be this wallet available for android?
2. How long for start staking coins?
THx. im keepin eye on it.Apex need to rise!!

1) We are looking into making an android wallet. Raxe.io could make one for us, but it is pricey and it requires monthly payments, so preferably we would rather make our own, unless anyone knows if someone can make it for a more reasonable price.

2) 24 hours for coins to mature

Yes, we agree, price does need to rise!
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August 07, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
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I find it odd that Coinrocket and Stratobitz are awfully quiet but my guess is they're the ones dumping and keeping quiet because they practically made fools out of themselves and lost all credibility of being called pro traders with their rip off 0.5-1.5 btc monthly fee to join their trade group, what a joke!  APEX are the real deal and real devs.

I've noticed APEX doesn't have any tip apps up, I can try to get a facebook one up.
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August 08, 2014, 12:08:57 AM
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I find it odd that Coinrocket and Stratobitz are awfully quiet but my guess is they're the ones dumping and keeping quiet because they practically made fools out of themselves and lost all credibility of being called pro traders with their rip off 0.5-1.5 btc monthly fee to join their trade group, what a joke!  APEX are the real deal and real devs.

I've noticed APEX doesn't have any tip apps up, I can try to get a facebook one up.

We've reached out to get on the facebook tip app, but if you can fast track that effort, that would be awesome!

Also, We would like to give special thanks to Mauri for donating the remaining bounty for the altcointoday.com promotional campaign. For now we will leave the address up to go towards future campaigns, but this should be good for at least a few weeks. Thank you all who showed your support and donated.
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August 08, 2014, 12:49:03 AM
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I find it odd that Coinrocket and Stratobitz are awfully quiet but my guess is they're the ones dumping and keeping quiet because they practically made fools out of themselves and lost all credibility of being called pro traders with their rip off 0.5-1.5 btc monthly fee to join their trade group, what a joke!  APEX are the real deal and real devs.

I've noticed APEX doesn't have any tip apps up, I can try to get a facebook one up.

We've reached out to get on the facebook tip app, but if you can fast track that effort, that would be awesome!

Also, We would like to give special thanks to Mauri for donating the remaining bounty for the altcointoday.com promotional campaign. For now we will leave the address up to go towards future campaigns, but this should be good for at least a few weeks. Thank you all who showed your support and donated.

That is great news to hear!  Although I might suggest besides continuing to accept development fund donations for APEX but also why not start a APEXfund similar to Syncfund, accept donations in other currencies as well because if APEX is to continue to adapt new tech then we're always going to need more development funds.
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August 08, 2014, 01:58:45 AM
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1. Will be this wallet available for android?
2. How long for start staking coins?
THx. im keepin eye on it.Apex need to rise!!

1) We are looking into making an android wallet. Raxe.io could make one for us, but it is pricey and it requires monthly payments, so preferably we would rather make our own, unless anyone knows if someone can make it for a more reasonable price.

2) 24 hours for coins to mature

Yes, we agree, price does need to rise!

Thankyou for answer.
So you guys are working now on that wallet upgrading then marketing? 15th of august we can see news?

i donate 500 apex ,i know is not very much,but better then nothing.
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August 08, 2014, 02:10:48 AM
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1. Will be this wallet available for android?
2. How long for start staking coins?
THx. im keepin eye on it.Apex need to rise!!

1) We are looking into making an android wallet. Raxe.io could make one for us, but it is pricey and it requires monthly payments, so preferably we would rather make our own, unless anyone knows if someone can make it for a more reasonable price.

2) 24 hours for coins to mature

Yes, we agree, price does need to rise!

Thankyou for answer.
So you guys are working now on that wallet upgrading then marketing? 15th of august we can see news?

i donate 500 apex ,i know is not very much,but better then nothing.
trans. id: d1e8f47747a27eb5a3ea7b9c86b67496c5f5e3b257365f2456664c3765cd39e1


Thank you for the donation, every bit helps. August 15th will be the next scheduled wallet update, and we hope to roll out updates at least every two weeks after that, if not each week.
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Small update: APEX will be included in Gryfencoin's Options Market service, which will attempt to gamify trading. You can read more about what they are attempting at http://www.gryfenco.in/gryfen-co-cryptocurrency-options-market-and-exchange

The service is set to launch August 20th.

Also, this may be old news to some, but we are on bitkee.com, which is pretty cool if you are into physical wallets and cold storage

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August 08, 2014, 06:51:04 AM
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Small update: APEX will be included in Gryfencoin's Options Market service, which will attempt to gamify trading. You can read more about what they are attempting at http://www.gryfenco.in/gryfen-co-cryptocurrency-options-market-and-exchange

The service is set to launch August 20th.

Also, this may be old news to some, but we are on bitkee.com, which is pretty cool if you are into physical wallets and cold storage



Great news devs, you guys been keeping busy!  I love bitkee hard wallets, but is bitkee going to use the new logo?
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August 08, 2014, 09:48:12 AM
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great! nice news
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August 08, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
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I am having a time understanding the pricing of APEX. I mean 250 sat....?? I bought at 2k sat - and 2k sat is undervalued for APEX. Go figure
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August 08, 2014, 01:05:14 PM
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I am having a time understanding the pricing of APEX. I mean 250 sat....?? I bought at 2k sat - and 2k sat is undervalued for APEX. Go figure

hmm,i think price will rise soon or later...if updates will come how devs promise it will be amazing Smiley love design of this coin.
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