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So, there is a thing I don't understand. There are casinos that have Curacao license but at the same their KYC requesting is very different, some of them rarely ask you for KYC while some of them ask it moderately or frequently. Can someone explain why is that so? Logically, all casinos should follow the same rules and if one manages to get without asking KYC frequently, why can't another casino, that operates under the same license, do so?
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May 23, 2023, 04:07:20 PM |
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So, there is a thing I don't understand. There are casinos that have Curacao license but at the same their KYC requesting is very different, some of them rarely ask you for KYC while some of them ask it moderately or frequently. Can someone explain why is that so? Logically, all casinos should follow the same rules and if one manages to get without asking KYC frequently, why can't another casino, that operates under the same license, do so?
It does make logical sense for all the Curacao books to have the same KYC rating. In reality, Betcoin and Forunejack leave players alone unless they multi-account to abuse bonuses or circumvent limits. They will even allow those from the US to play without repercussion. Those two have a KYC rating of 1. Then there are the other Curacao books rated 3 and 4 that seem to use their license and TOS as a weapon to confiscate money from winners. They leave those alone that lose money, but will go after winners using jurisdiction. Using the US again, they will take winnings or whole balances from those playing in the US. The amount is irrelevant at some of those books. While I agree that AML and KYC rules have to be enforced, a one time rollover is sufficient. To weaponize Curacao laws to take money from winners warrants a lower KYC rating. Players should not use multiple accounts. Be very careful of jurisdiction when playing at books rated 3 and 4. Nitrogen is another book with a rating of 1. They allow players from most countries except for Costa Rica where they are located. There are a couple others such as Russia but for the most part, they leave players alone and will not target winners.
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May 26, 2023, 02:48:55 AM |
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Update: Added Support pages as well as Bitcointalk threads. SportsBooks | | | Rating | | | Year | | | Country | | | KYC | | | MISC | | | Promos | | | Support | | | BCT thread | | | | --------------------- | | | -------- | | | -------- | | | ---------- | | | ------ | | | ----------------------------------- | | | ------------ | | | ---------------------- | | | ------------ | | | "A" rated books | | Nitrobetting | | | A+ | | | 2013 | | | Costa Rica | | | 1 | | | Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Betcoin | | | A+ | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 1 | | | Two sets of lines and limits | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | MBet | | | | | | 2017 | | | Cyprus | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "B" rated books | | Stake | | | B | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bistler | | | B- | | | 2015 | | | Curacao | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Fortune Jack | | | B- | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 1 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "C" rated books | | Betfury | | | C+ | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Cloudbet | | | C+ | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | Roobet | | | C+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Duelbits | | | C | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Sportsbet | | | C | | | 2016 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Maverickgames | | | C | | | 2020 | | | Isle of Man | | | 5 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Owl | | | C | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Rollbit | | | C | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Trustdice | | | C | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Anonibet | | | C- | | | 2011 | | | - | | | 4 | | | Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | Betnomi | | | C- | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Parlayplus | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | - | | | 2 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Wolf | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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May 28, 2023, 10:25:59 AM |
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If you are playing at a NR, please post a review.
Not rated. Housebets.io (2023) betcrypto.cr (2023) dexsport.io (2023) vbetftn.com (2023
thanks for this list here, and I wanna to ask who checked them for patouts?
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May 28, 2023, 06:26:38 PM |
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Not rated. Housebets.io (2023) betcrypto.cr (2023) dexsport.io (2023) vbetftn.com (2023
thanks for this list here, and I wanna to ask who checked them for patouts? I try to test drive all the books and take a withdrawal before putting up a rating. All the "A" and "B" books must have withdrawals within 1 hour on average. It's best if multiple people post on withdrawal times. Poster reviews help all.
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May 30, 2023, 11:27:39 PM |
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To us, being winner-friendly means providing a welcoming environment to players from all backgrounds and all capabilities, with a core value of not limiting or closing winning accounts. On the casino side, this means we support our players throughout their experience and encourage them to play and win. On the sportsbook side, we aim to give our players the tools they need to make informed betting decisions through sharing analytical content with them and we never limit or close accounts. https://alphabookbet.com/ Any reviews on these?
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May 31, 2023, 01:57:30 AM |
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To us, being winner-friendly means providing a welcoming environment to players from all backgrounds and all capabilities, with a core value of not limiting or closing winning accounts. On the casino side, this means we support our players throughout their experience and encourage them to play and win. On the sportsbook side, we aim to give our players the tools they need to make informed betting decisions through sharing analytical content with them and we never limit or close accounts. https://alphabookbet.com/ Any reviews on these? Thanks for the input LEVSKI. Alphabookbet is a fiat book requiring KYC so a review hasn't been done on them.
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June 05, 2023, 03:27:21 PM Last edit: June 09, 2023, 02:40:39 AM by Peeps Place |
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Update SportsBooks | | | Rating | | | Year | | | Country | | | KYC | | | MISC | | | Promos | | | Support | | | BCT thread | | | | --------------------- | | | -------- | | | -------- | | | ---------- | | | ------ | | | ----------------------------------- | | | ------------ | | | ---------------------- | | | ------------ | | | "A" rated books | | Nitrobetting | | | A+ | | | 2013 | | | Costa Rica | | | 1 | | | Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Betcoin | | | A+ | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 1 | | | Two sets of lines and limits | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | MBet | | | | | | 2017 | | | Cyprus | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "B" rated books | | Stake | | | B | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bistler | | | B- | | | 2015 | | | Curacao | | | 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Fortune Jack | | | B- | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | 1 | | | opened as casino 2014 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | "C" rated books | | Betfury | | | C+ | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Cloudbet | | | C+ | | | 2013 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | Roobet | | | C+ | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Duelbits | | | C | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Sportsbet | | | C | | | 2016 | | | Curacao | | | 3 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Maverickgames | | | C | | | 2020 | | | Isle of Man | | | 5 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Owl | | | C | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Rollbit | | | C | | | 2021 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Trustdice | | | C | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Anonibet | | | C- | | | 2011 | | | - | | | 1 | | | Sports Bonus | | | | | | | | | | | | Betnomi | | | C- | | | 2020 | | | Curacao | | | | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Parlayplus | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | - | | | 2 | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | Wolf | | | C- | | | 2019 | | | Curacao | | | - | | | - | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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June 07, 2023, 04:32:49 AM |
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Add the following to NR:
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June 12, 2023, 07:12:49 PM |
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Your thread looks pretty good now with the new updates, but I can't agree with the KYC rating of Betcoin and FortuneJack. The KYC verification requirement is common (at least medium requirement) on every Curacao licensed casino, while you have given '1' rating for those two casinos. Where the '1' stands for very little chance. I'm wondering why you have given '1' rating for Anonibet! Has Anonibet ever asked for any kind of personal documents from anyone? BTW, don't forget to give me a reply here.
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June 13, 2023, 06:01:12 AM Last edit: June 13, 2023, 06:20:00 AM by Peeps Place |
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Your thread looks pretty good now with the new updates, but I can't agree with the KYC rating of Betcoin and FortuneJack. The KYC verification requirement is common (at least medium requirement) on every Curacao licensed casino, while you have given '1' rating for those two casinos. Where the '1' stands for very little chance. I'm wondering why you have given '1' rating for Anonibet! Has Anonibet ever asked for any kind of personal documents from anyone? BTW, don't forget to give me a reply here. I'm glad that you mentioned Fortunejack because that is one of the books that I've been debating on their KYC ranking. That may be changed. Anonibet hasn't done any KYC that I know of and their rating is 1, the lowest degree of KYC. For your Betcoin question, I'll post the same reply as was given in your thread: Hi Mahdirakib - thanks for the post in my thread. I also said that your licenses were correct and that your thread is a great resource. In fact, I was going to ask if you minded if I linked your thread to my other resource section. As far as the KYC details being somewhat off, I'll mention the top two books I have rated Betcoin and Nitrobetting A+ since they are heavily vetted because of their ratings. Also, you mentioned Betcoin in my thread. In your thread here Nitrobetting is omitted. The only real concern of your thread here is that books such as Betcoin are in the same category as the others "if needed" although their KYC is different. They only KYC if you use multiple accounts. They don't punish people based on guessed jurisdiction unless they use multiple accounts to abuse bonuses or circumvent limits. In fact, Betcoin agrees to third party arbitration and has never lost a case. I would put Nitrobetting in that same category. Other casinos seem to target winners and then punish using jurisdiction. They confiscate winnings or both deposit and winnings. Losers are left alone. It's crooked in my book and I'm not going to put any book using those tactics in the "A" category. Your thread is excellent. The best here as far as licenses and I'd like to link it if fine with you. I'll link under other resources https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0To add a little not in your thread, if you ever have a concern about jurisdiction or KYC, contact the book and ask if it's ok to play there. Do this in confidence as sometimes it's best to do that way for the individual case. Ask about VPN use since both those books don't like it. They know you aren't using multiple accounts if you aren't using a VPN. If you contact the book and get the ok to play there, you have recourse if they decide to use jurisdiction to confiscate your money.
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June 13, 2023, 07:28:52 PM |
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I'm glad that you mentioned Fortunejack because that is one of the books that I've been debating on their KYC ranking. That may be changed. Anonibet hasn't done any KYC that I know of and their rating is 1, the lowest degree of KYC.
FortuneJack should have at least 2 ratings in the KYC part. Their KYC policy isn’t limited to the restricted jurisdiction only, they also apply this to new users who take the deposit, free spin or reload bonuses. Anonibet team had confirmed it to me that they don't request for any kind of personal documents. '1' in the KYC part stands for a little chance while the KYC requirement is 'zero' on Anonibet. For your Betcoin question ~snip~
I had positive experience on Betcoin.ag partner casino (Playbetr). I also have good experience of playing at Betcoin. But you can't deny that they reserves the right to ask the user to complete the KYC verification at any time, and for any reason. Anyway, you can link my thread under the resources if you wish. I don't have any problem with that.
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June 13, 2023, 09:12:07 PM Last edit: June 13, 2023, 09:27:54 PM by Peeps Place |
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I'm glad that you mentioned Fortunejack because that is one of the books that I've been debating on their KYC ranking. That may be changed. Anonibet hasn't done any KYC that I know of and their rating is 1, the lowest degree of KYC.
FortuneJack should have at least 2 ratings in the KYC part. Their KYC policy isn’t limited to the restricted jurisdiction only, they also apply this to new users who take the deposit, free spin or reload bonuses. Anonibet team had confirmed it to me that they don't request for any kind of personal documents. '1' in the KYC part stands for a little chance while the KYC requirement is 'zero' on Anonibet. For your Betcoin question ~snip~
I had positive experience on Betcoin.ag partner casino (Playbetr). I also have good experience of playing at Betcoin. But you can't deny that they reserves the right to ask the user to complete the KYC verification at any time, and for any reason. Anyway, you can link my thread under the resources if you wish. I don't have any problem with that. You make valid points on FJ and Anonibet. I changed KYC ratings accordingly. As far as Betcoin, they do not do it for any reason. They do it for abuse for multi-accounting only and they have been correct every time they went to arbitration. This is why I pointed out that written rules do not equal what actually happens and you have to do research instead of just looking at ToS. You can go back 7 years when that wasn’t the case but that’s their current policy. Do not use a VPN at Betcoin and you won’t have any problems. Take their bonuses and don’t use a VPN.
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I'm glad that you mentioned Fortunejack because that is one of the books that I've been debating on their KYC ranking. That may be changed. Anonibet hasn't done any KYC that I know of and their rating is 1, the lowest degree of KYC.
FortuneJack should have at least 2 ratings in the KYC part. Their KYC policy isn’t limited to the restricted jurisdiction only, they also apply this to new users who take the deposit, free spin or reload bonuses. Anonibet team had confirmed it to me that they don't request for any kind of personal documents. '1' in the KYC part stands for a little chance while the KYC requirement is 'zero' on Anonibet. For your Betcoin question ~snip~
I had positive experience on Betcoin.ag partner casino (Playbetr). I also have good experience of playing at Betcoin. But you can't deny that they reserves the right to ask the user to complete the KYC verification at any time, and for any reason. Anyway, you can link my thread under the resources if you wish. I don't have any problem with that. You look like some kind of a commissioner. Anonibet doesn't pay at all, they shouldn't have a rating at all. Read my posts about them, and read other users' posts as well. You are on the forum for so long and you have so many posts and do not know this about this office, you are exactly the same as Anonibet, you are a scammer.
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June 14, 2023, 06:34:30 AM Last edit: June 14, 2023, 06:49:07 AM by Peeps Place |
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I'm glad that you mentioned Fortunejack because that is one of the books that I've been debating on their KYC ranking. That may be changed. Anonibet hasn't done any KYC that I know of and their rating is 1, the lowest degree of KYC.
FortuneJack should have at least 2 ratings in the KYC part. Their KYC policy isn’t limited to the restricted jurisdiction only, they also apply this to new users who take the deposit, free spin or reload bonuses. Anonibet team had confirmed it to me that they don't request for any kind of personal documents. '1' in the KYC part stands for a little chance while the KYC requirement is 'zero' on Anonibet. For your Betcoin question ~snip~
I had positive experience on Betcoin.ag partner casino (Playbetr). I also have good experience of playing at Betcoin. But you can't deny that they reserves the right to ask the user to complete the KYC verification at any time, and for any reason. Anyway, you can link my thread under the resources if you wish. I don't have any problem with that. You look like some kind of a commissioner. Anonibet doesn't pay at all, they shouldn't have a rating at all. Read my posts about them, and read other users' posts as well. You are on the forum for so long and you have so many posts and do not know this about this office, you are exactly the same as Anonibet, you are a scammer. They were downgraded based upon your case. "C-" is appropriate as "C" books aren't recommended. This goes back to 2014. They were once the top rated book and slowly declined. They were the only "A" rated book at one time. "A" rated books Anonibet A (2011) : Earn up to 10% of your losses each month.
"B"rated books
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June 16, 2023, 06:28:01 PM |
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Betcoin just added horse racing. There's now 3 books with a full race book. Nitrobetting, Betcoin and mBet.
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🤑 Free Bets have been credited 🤑
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June 17, 2023, 12:25:47 AM |
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June 17, 2023, 12:48:53 AM |
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Thanks jeremypwr, the table has been updated.
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June 18, 2023, 01:40:22 PM |
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If the company is an EOOD, it must be Bulgarian or at least registered in Bulgaria.but not having a Curacao license will make it difficult for the lawyer
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