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Author Topic: #1 RATINGS of BITCOIN SPORTSBOOKS since 2014 : KYC Rankings, Bonuses, Scam Accus  (Read 259732 times)
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June 18, 2023, 02:40:19 PM
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I would like to ask for a careful review regarding the rating of the company Betcoin.ag based on the latest scam accusation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.msg62421591#msg62421591

Coingambling, thanks for bringing this to the attention of the thread. Betcoin says that it's just under review at this point. No decision has been made. I wouldn't worry too much. Betcoin is a strong book.

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June 18, 2023, 05:54:27 PM
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I would like to ask for a careful review regarding the rating of the company Betcoin.ag based on the latest scam accusation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.msg62421591#msg62421591

Coingambling, thanks for bringing this to the attention of the thread. Betcoin says that it's just under review at this point. No decision has been made. I wouldn't worry too much. Betcoin is a strong book.

So a strong book is confiscating a 7,xk USD balance stating it is clear that the player has violated the Terms of use and does not provide any proof behind the accusation despite multiple people asking for it?
If this is a strong book then what is a weak book?
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June 18, 2023, 06:08:27 PM
Last edit: June 19, 2023, 07:54:15 AM by Peeps Place
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I would like to ask for a careful review regarding the rating of the company Betcoin.ag based on the latest scam accusation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456682.msg62421591#msg62421591

Coingambling, thanks for bringing this to the attention of the thread. Betcoin says that it's just under review at this point. No decision has been made. I wouldn't worry too much. Betcoin is a strong book.

So a strong book is confiscating a 7,xk USD balance stating it is clear that the player has violated the Terms of use and does not provide any proof behind the accusation despite multiple people asking for it?
If this is a strong book then what is a weak book?
I was in contact with Betcoin. Nothing has been confiscated. As I said in your thread, your case is still under review. As I also said in your thread, all rating guides here at BCT have Betcoin and Nitrobetting as #1 or #2. That’s a strong book. It’s not just my opinion. Post number 2 here under other resources shows other guides. I’ve just been made aware of this and this seems reasonable.

Edit - I just read your thread, got my answer so made an edit here.

Edit 2 - case going to mediation. I wish you would have waited since you were going to get your deposit back and now it's all or nothing. You are a professional gambler that was going to get his deposit back at worst pending review. That scenario is no longer possible.

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June 19, 2023, 07:11:33 PM
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Coingambling has reported to a moderator here at bitcointalk that I'm lying about him in calling him a Professional Gambler. Here are his words:

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Hello,

I would like to inform you that my Piwi247 account got blocked today as their game provider are currently investigating my account.
Had a deposit last Saturday of around 10k€ and ran really hot on the exchange on multiple tennis players backing/laying them in consecutive matches.
All the markets I had won big had a decent liquidity on Betfair between 100k€-1 mio. € and all bets got graded by Betfair.

I was transparent right from the start with Piwi247 and I was not scared of hiding the fact that I am a professional gambler.
I also offered them that I will explain my thought process behind each bet in detail to show my support on the investigation - so far no response on this offer.

I will keep you guys updated about the progress.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169089.msg61883270#msg61883270


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June 19, 2023, 07:16:47 PM
Last edit: June 20, 2023, 08:38:10 PM by Peeps Place
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Coingambling has reported to a moderator here at bitcointalk that I'm lying about him in calling him a Professional Gambler. Here are his words:

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Hello,

I would like to inform you that my Piwi247 account got blocked today as their game provider are currently investigating my account.
Had a deposit last Saturday of around 10k€ and ran really hot on the exchange on multiple tennis players backing/laying them in consecutive matches.
All the markets I had won big had a decent liquidity on Betfair between 100k€-1 mio. € and all bets got graded by Betfair.

I was transparent right from the start with Piwi247 and I was not scared of hiding the fact that I am a professional gambler.
I also offered them that I will explain my thought process behind each bet in detail to show my support on the investigation - so far no response on this offer.

I will keep you guys updated about the progress.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5169089.msg61883270#msg61883270



How do you know my situation has not changed since then?
Do you have a proof that as of June I was still a professional gambler?
you are a very dishonest person whether it be a complete lie or lie by omission. I really don't care what you have to say or who you report me to.

edit 1 : It wasn't my intent to post back to back within 24 hours but Coingambler deleted his post "How do you know my situation has not changed since then?
Do you have a proof that as of June I was still a professional gambler?"

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June 21, 2023, 08:23:42 PM
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Update:

SportsBooks |
Rating
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Year
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Country
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KYC
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MISC
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Promos
|
Support
|
BCT thread
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---------------------|--------|--------|----------|------|-----------------------------------|------------|----------------------|------------|
"A" rated books
Nitrobetting|
A+
|
2013
|
Costa Rica
|
1
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Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus
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Betcoin|
A+
|
2013
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Curacao
|
1
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Racebook and 2 different lines for sports
||||
MBet|
A-
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2017
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Cyprus
|
2
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Racebook
     
||||
"B" rated books
Stake|
B  
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2019
|
Curacao
|
3
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opened as casino 2014
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Bistler|
B-
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2015
 
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Curacao
|
2
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-
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Fortune Jack|
B-
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2019
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Curacao
|
2
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opened as casino 2014
         
||||
"C" rated books
Betfury|
C+
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2020
|
Curacao
|
3
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-
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Cloudbet|
C+
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2013
 
|
Curacao
|
3
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Sports Bonus
||||
Roobet|
C+
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2019
|
Curacao
|
-
|
-
         
||||
Duelbits|
C
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2020
|
Curacao
|
-
|
-
         
||||
Sportsbet|
C
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2016
|
Curacao
|
3
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Racebook
         
||||
Maverickgames|
C
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2020
|
 Isle of Man   
|
5
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-
         
||||
Owl|
C
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2021
|
Curacao
|
-
         
|
-
||||
Rollbit|
C
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2021
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Curacao
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-
         
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-
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Trustdice|
C
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2019
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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Anonibet|
C-
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2011
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-
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0
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Sports Bonus
         
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Betnomi|
C-
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2020
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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Parlayplus|
C-
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2019
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-
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2
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-
         
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Wolf|
C-
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2019
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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June 24, 2023, 03:59:45 PM
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Add kineko.com to NR

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June 27, 2023, 01:04:30 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2023, 01:37:10 AM by GekkeBelg
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bit555.io seems to be gone with player funds...website does not load anymore. Edit: Same goes for mysticbets.io and bitgame.com

Regarding betplay.io I must submit excellent feedback: very friendly in livechat, super quick payouts and zero KYC despite fairly big winnings for me so far.
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June 27, 2023, 02:10:25 AM
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bit555.io seems to be gone with player funds...website does not load anymore. Edit: Same goes for mysticbets.io and bitgame.com

Regarding betplay.io I must submit excellent feedback: very friendly in livechat, super quick payouts and zero KYC despite fairly big winnings for me so far.

Congrats on the winnings at betplay.io. Thanks for the updates on the 4 books. Really appreciate the input. Hate to see 3 more books gone. It seems two got away with money while one paid.

Bit555.io (2022) downgraded from "D" to "F"
mysticbets.io (2022)downgraded from "D" to "F"
bitgame.com (2015) downgraded from "D-" to "F"

Note to all: Only "A" and "B" books are recommended. Stay away from "D" books.

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July 01, 2023, 04:12:04 AM
Last edit: July 02, 2023, 05:35:19 PM by Peeps Place
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Update:

SportsBooks |
Rating
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Year
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Country
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KYC
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MISC
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Promos
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Support
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BCT thread
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---------------------|--------|--------|----------|------|-----------------------------------|------------|----------------------|------------|
"A" rated books
Nitrobetting|
A+
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2013
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Costa Rica
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1
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Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus
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Betcoin|
A+
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2013
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Curacao
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1
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Racebook and 2 different lines for sports
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MBet|
A-
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2017
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Cyprus
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2
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Racebook
     
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"B" rated books
Stake|
B  
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2019
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Curacao
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3
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opened as casino 2014
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Bistler|
B-
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2015
 
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Curacao
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2
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-
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Fortune Jack|
B-
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2019
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Curacao
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2
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opened as casino 2014
         
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"C" rated books
Betfury|
C+
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2020
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Curacao
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3
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-
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Cloudbet|
C+
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2013
 
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Curacao
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3
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Sports Bonus
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Roobet|
C+
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2019
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Curacao
|
-
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-
         
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Duelbits|
C
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2020
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Curacao
|
-
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-
         
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Sportsbet|
C
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2016
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Curacao
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3
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Racebook
         
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Maverickgames|
C
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2020
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 Isle of Man   
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5
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-
         
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Owl|
C
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2021
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Curacao
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-
         
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-
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Rollbit|
C
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2021
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Curacao
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-
         
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-
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Trustdice|
C
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2019
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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Anonibet|
C-
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2011
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-
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0
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Sports Bonus
         
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Parlayplus|
C-
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2019
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-
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2
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-
         
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Wolf|
C-
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2019
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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July 02, 2023, 05:39:31 PM
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Betnomi (2020) downgraded from "C-" to "F". Reports of no pays along with the sports book being inoperable.

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July 07, 2023, 01:57:29 AM
Last edit: July 10, 2023, 05:17:13 AM by Peeps Place
 #4032

Update:


SportsBooks |
Rating
|
Year
|
Country
|
KYC
|
MISC
|
Promos
|
Support
|
BCT thread
|
---------------------|--------|--------|----------|------|-----------------------------------|------------|----------------------|------------|
"A" rated books
Nitrobetting|
A+
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2013
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Costa Rica
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1
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Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus
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Betcoin|
A+
|
2013
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Curacao
|
1
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Racebook and 2 different lines for sports
||||
MBet|
A-
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2017
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Cyprus
|
2
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Racebook
     
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"B" rated books
Stake|
B  
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2019
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Curacao
|
4
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opened as casino 2014
||||
Bistler|
B-
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2015
 
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Curacao
|
2
|
-
||||
Fortune Jack|
B-
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2019
|
Curacao
|
2
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opened as casino 2014
         
||||
"C" rated books
Betfury|
C+
|
2020
|
Curacao
|
3
|
-
||||
Cloudbet|
C+
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2013
 
|
Curacao
|
3
|
Sports Bonus
||||
Roobet|
C+
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2019
|
Curacao
|
-
|
-
         
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Duelbits|
C
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2020
|
Curacao
|
-
|
-
         
||||
Sportsbet|
C
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2016
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Curacao
|
3
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Racebook
         
||||
Maverickgames|
C
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2020
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 Isle of Man   
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5
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-
         
||||
Owl|
C
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2021
|
Curacao
|
-
         
|
-
||||
Rollbit|
C
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2021
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Curacao
|
-
         
|
-
||||
Trustdice|
C
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2019
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Curacao
|
-
|
-
         
||||
Anonibet|
C-
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2011
|
-
|
0
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Sports Bonus
         
||||
Parlayplus|
C-
|
2019
|
-
|
2
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-
         
||||
Wolf|
C-
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2019
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Curacao
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-
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-
         
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July 10, 2023, 05:20:31 AM
Last edit: July 11, 2023, 12:09:03 AM by Peeps Place
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Stake.com KYC ranking lowered to 4.

There may be times when KYC is necessary even though some books do it rarely. There is currently a case where a player submitted his KYC information over 3 months ago and Stake still hasn't made a decision. While looking at Stake's ToS their KYC requirements can be extremely invasive. Not only this but Stake says that they can share this information with any entity. https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds

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Acceptable documents for source of funds
Updated over a week ago
Please note that the compliance team reserves the rights to request any document they might need.

You can use one of the following documents to verify your source of funds:

Salary ( You will need to send us a recent bank statement indicating receipt of your salary or original of your payslip )

Sales of shared or other investments / liquidation of investment portfolio / bonds ( You will need to send us a bank statement clearly showing receipt of funds and investment company name or interest on bonds received )

Sale of property ( You will need to send us a copy of the contract of sale and a bank statement showing the proceeds of the sale )

Inheritance ( You will need to send us a copy of the deceased's will, and a bank statement showing the received funds, along with your current balance )

Company sale ( You will need to send us a letter detailing company sale signed by a licensed solicitor or regulated accountant on letter-headed paper )

A Gift from a family member or close relative ( You will need to send us a donor's letter explaining the reason for the gift and the source of their wealth. Also, we will require certified identification documents from donor )

Winning the Lottery ( You will need to send us a receipt of winnings and documentation e.g. bank statement showing the origin of the funds initially deposited )

Divorce settlement ( You will need to send us a divorce settlement agreement and bank statement clearly showing receipt of funds )

Loan ( You will need to send us an executed copy of the loan agreement and a bank statement showing the received funds along with your current balance )

Mining ( You will need to send us a ledger of the amount of cryptocurrency mined, as well as a wallet address and transaction hash to which the mined cryptocurrency was delivered )

Your source of funds document must meet the following requirements:

Please upload an original photo or a PDF file of the documents, screenshots will not be accepted

All documents must be issued within the last 6 months and need to be in Latin international format

Shows your full name and address

Shows the name of issuing entity and date of issue

The whole sheet of paper is visible in the photo

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Update:

SportsBooks |
Rating
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Year
|
Country
|
KYC
|
MISC
|
Promos
|
Support
|
BCT thread
|
---------------------|--------|--------|----------|------|-----------------------------------|------------|----------------------|------------|
"A" rated books
Nitrobetting|
A+
|
2013
|
Costa Rica
|
1
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Racebook, Poker, Sports Bonus
||||
Betcoin|
A+
|
2013
|
Curacao
|
1
|
Racebook and 2 different lines for sports
||||
MBet|
A-
|
2017
|
Cyprus
|
2
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Racebook
     
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"B" rated books
Stake|
B  
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2019
|
Curacao
|
4
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opened as casino 2014
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Bistler|
B-
|
2015
 
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Curacao
|
2
|
-
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Fortune Jack|
B-
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2019
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Curacao
|
2
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opened as casino 2014
         
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"C" rated books
Betfury|
C+
|
2020
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Curacao
|
3
|
-
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Cloudbet|
C+
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2013
 
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Curacao
|
3
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Sports Bonus
||||
Roobet|
C+
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2019
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Curacao
|
-
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-
         
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Duelbits|
C
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2020
|
Curacao
|
-
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-
         
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Sportsbet|
C
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2016
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Curacao
|
3
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Racebook
         
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Maverickgames|
C
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2020
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 Isle of Man   
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5
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-
         
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Owl|
C
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2021
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Curacao
|
-
         
|
-
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Rollbit|
C
|
2021
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Curacao
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-
         
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-
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Trustdice|
C
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2019
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Curacao
|
-
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-
         
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Anonibet|
C-
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2011
|
-
|
0
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Sports Bonus
         
||||
Parlayplus|
C-
|
2019
|
-
|
2
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-
         
||||
Wolf|
C-
|
2019
|
Curacao
|
-
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-
         
||||

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July 15, 2023, 12:49:39 AM
 #4035

Roobet's KYC level might have to be around 4 or 5 because when I opened my account last year, I was required to complete the level 1 KYC verification (no IDs needed and it was all personal info).

Also, can you please add 500casino/csgo500 back to the list, they're previously listed under the D rated books.

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July 15, 2023, 04:54:53 PM
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Roobet's KYC level might have to be around 4 or 5 because when I opened my account last year, I was required to complete the level 1 KYC verification (no IDs needed and it was all personal info).

Also, can you please add 500casino/csgo500 back to the list, they're previously listed under the D rated books.

Thanks as always ralle! 500.casino has been reinstated as "D". Roobet listed with a KYC rating of 4.

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July 17, 2023, 01:13:35 AM
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Add Weiss.bet (2023) to NR with a KYC rating of 4.

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July 19, 2023, 12:34:03 AM
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Predictious should be removed from the second post. I noticed the link isn't working and saw their last tweet about stopping their prediction market.

Freebitco.in also updated their terms for KYC, now they're at the same level as most crypto sportsbooks where they can ask for verification.

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July 19, 2023, 01:48:30 AM
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Predictious should be removed from the second post. I noticed the link isn't working and saw their last tweet about stopping their prediction market.

Freebitco.in also updated their terms for KYC, now they're at the same level as most crypto sportsbooks where they can ask for verification.

Thanks ralle! Predictious has been deleted. Hate to see the KYC news concerning Freebitco.in. Let's hope they keep it to a minimum.

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July 21, 2023, 02:40:24 PM
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