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Author Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)  (Read 262836 times)
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September 13, 2014, 02:56:58 PM
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I've just boosted my free 1.3 Mh/s Fury and now it's running at 2 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway Wink

A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

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September 13, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
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I've just boosted my free 1.3 Mh/s Fury and now it's running at 2 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway Wink

A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Yup, you won't be able to pay the rent with it. But while you're logged in to claim the payout it's a simple click to get a slight bit extra payout. Or a bit faster ROI.
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September 13, 2014, 03:34:36 PM
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Smiley I just purchase 3MH worth of Mining Shares for $100. Not Miners.. mining shares. Lawyer cleared this up for me. Its all in the language and how they present it. Do i mind, not at all.. as long as i can get my ROI back.

If the process we're more similar to renting a rig, then yes i can see it being an actual miner you are buying. But GAW is controlling the coin and pools only because it flow's with their financial projections and what they are able to return to investors.

This is the obvious. Anyone with a business sense can see what they are offering are not miners but shares in an operation. Probably doing this to avoid regulation from the securities commission and ultimately higher taxes.

In Canada, any mining operation selling shares must be registered with the securities commission because they are selling shares Wink
No difference with what GAW is doing. They are just trying to get around it with some wording and presentation.

Think of the production costs to manufacture these hashlets. And they spit em out like quick fast. (Good graphic designer)
If i wanted to purchase $75,000 worth of hashlets i can get them right away!! (SHARES make this possible)

No refunds, but i can trade them at a lower price??  Huh
Sometimes at a higher price, just ask some early investors.
They are planning to launch a marketplace to make it easier.

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September 13, 2014, 04:07:02 PM
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Sometimes at a higher price, just ask some early investors.
They are planning to launch a marketplace to make it easier.


hmmmm ??

did anybody succeed to seel something ?? I put a waffle hashlet for sale but nothing happened . Huh
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September 13, 2014, 04:12:30 PM
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Sometimes at a higher price, just ask some early investors.
They are planning to launch a marketplace to make it easier.


hmmmm ??

did anybody succeed to seel something ?? I put a waffle hashlet for sale but nothing happened . Huh



I think all that marketplace does is put your hashlet in que to be sold at regular price by GAW.
Its obvious if someone is buying.. its not users P2P.

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September 13, 2014, 04:39:36 PM
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Oh, I got confused here Cheesy I thought (like many other people) that they are enabling free trade option. I read somewhere this is going to be the case, but they just announced that it's only an option to sell it back to them for 80% of the price.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5885/explanation-of-exchange/185

"Thats exactly what we are doing. We are purchasing at 80% and reselling for 100%.
So instead of the normal selling margin we make, we are taking a smaller 20% margin to make sure you sell your Hashlet"

Yes, some people managed to sell them.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/5846/hashlet-sell/47

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September 13, 2014, 04:40:38 PM
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Smiley I just purchase 3MH worth of Mining Shares for $100. Not Miners.. mining shares. Lawyer cleared this up for me. Its all in the language and how they present it. Do i mind, not at all.. as long as i can get my ROI back.

If the process we're more similar to renting a rig, then yes i can see it being an actual miner you are buying. But GAW is controlling the coin and pools only because it flow's with their financial projections and what they are able to return to investors.

This is the obvious. Anyone with a business sense can see what they are offering are not miners but shares in an operation. Probably doing this to avoid regulation from the securities commission and ultimately higher taxes.

In Canada, any mining operation selling shares must be registered with the securities commission because they are selling shares Wink
No difference with what GAW is doing. They are just trying to get around it with some wording and presentation.

Think of the production costs to manufacture these hashlets. And they spit em out like quick fast. (Good graphic designer)
If i wanted to purchase $75,000 worth of hashlets i can get them right away!! (SHARES make this possible)

No refunds, but i can trade them at a lower price??  Huh

Selling something that is a security as not a security is illegal in the US.  It is two separate felonies: felony fraud and selling of unregistered securities.

I agree these are just shares, and thus securities.

I also agree anyone with some experience in finances can see that these are shares, but many people on hashtalk have no idea what they are purchasing because they are unable to see through the marketspeak nonsense.
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September 13, 2014, 04:44:25 PM
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You asked how to put it on the marketplace.
There are tutorials here, just pick one: https://hashtalk.org/topic/5906/hashlet-exchange-write-up-bounty/9

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September 13, 2014, 06:11:01 PM
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WAIT ONE SECOND  so you telling me the thing i was excited about. Gaw offering a market place to sell GHS / MH is not going to be like cex.io , BUT instead is going to be something like well if you want out we will prison shank you then rape you i mean buy them at reduced price?

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September 13, 2014, 06:27:12 PM
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WAIT ONE SECOND  so you telling me the thing i was excited about. Gaw offering a market place to sell GHS / MH is not going to be like cex.io , BUT instead is going to be something like well if you want out we will prison shank you then rape you i mean buy them at reduced price?

It looks like they buy it back only if there is someone willing to buy it the full price. Nobody's buying my wafflet though. I don't get the "smaller" margin part, they already took a full margin on the initial sale, so the 20% is all gravy.
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September 13, 2014, 06:30:47 PM
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Some one bought one of my remaining 1MH miners, but no money is showing up.  Maybe I need to wait until the normal payout time?

Still waiting to receive my full final payout from the last time I sold a miner as well.  Been about 8 days now with typical terrible and slow ticket responses.
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September 13, 2014, 07:11:54 PM
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as of today i have made 50% ROI in about one month
im happy with hashlets
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September 13, 2014, 09:44:09 PM
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as of today i have made 50% ROI in about one month
im happy with hashlets

i'm upto 75% ROI and bout 2 more weeks i should be at 100% for my first unit...i've since bought some more Smiley

Dreams of cyprto solving everything is slowly slipping away...Replaced by scams/hacks Sad
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September 13, 2014, 09:54:21 PM
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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin

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September 13, 2014, 10:00:10 PM
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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin

Nice one Wink. I was just a bit too late for that I guess. Bought them for $21.-, but I received a Solo Hashlet Gift extra (= also 1 MH/s) and my hashlet was updated to a hashlet Prime. Together with earnings, my $21 can be worth $60.- now if I sell everything (and take my earnings).  But i'm not going to, I like hashletss Smiley


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September 13, 2014, 11:14:59 PM
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I'm at 206%! Wink

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September 13, 2014, 11:35:39 PM
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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin

Nice one Wink. I was just a bit too late for that I guess. Bought them for $21.-, but I received a Solo Hashlet Gift extra (= also 1 MH/s) and my hashlet was updated to a hashlet Prime. Together with earnings, my $21 can be worth $60.- now if I sell everything (and take my earnings).  But i'm not going to, I like hashletss Smiley



I might sell, but I will probably hold for another 2 weeks.

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September 14, 2014, 04:21:34 AM
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Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

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September 14, 2014, 04:39:37 AM
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Anyone want my two remaining hashlet primes for $35/MH? Smiley  That is all that is left on the account.
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September 14, 2014, 04:56:25 AM
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Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

I dont know If I agree with you on selling a portion of your hashlet primes. For those of use who could profit form selling we have made a good portion of our money back on these already. If they keep adding new features the price will remain the same or go up. It all depends on do you think GAW is real? Do you think GAW will continue to improve the Prime meaning you will be able to make more in the future which would justify the cost of the prime.

I have done a ton of research on GAW and josh's past companies. I am gambling on him right now and that he is who he says he is. I have not completed my research on him but I guarantee I have done more then most. If GAW is a ponzi he will go to jail because we all know who he is. If he is not who we think then from what I see he would have had to have this planned out years ago because there is info on him and his companies dating back for sure to 2009 and some info that dates to 2002. 
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