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November 07, 2014, 05:20:15 AM |
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Nice catch
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galdur
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November 07, 2014, 05:36:39 AM |
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What the heck, this guy is as courteous as they come. Never heard anything at all untoward from him. |
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eightcylinders
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November 07, 2014, 05:45:02 AM |
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This is really funny. They are so close to getting the truth .... They got that mining hashpoint pool is essentially not mining They got the hashpoint pool means gaw doesn't have to payout precious btc They got that zenpool payouts suck so bad that they have no choice but to hope gaw's hashpoint to hashcoin ico works They just can't put it all together
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suchmoon (OP)
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November 07, 2014, 05:57:49 AM |
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What the heck, this guy is as courteous as they come. Never heard anything at all untoward from him. He was probably disrespectful and off topic in his support tickets. Yep, another mystery solved right there  |
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suchmoon (OP)
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November 07, 2014, 06:01:14 AM |
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How is this for a moral dilemma: should we report this puppetmaster to GAW sig campaign for fraud? Or let Panda-the-forum-police figure it out on her own? |
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chmick
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November 07, 2014, 10:19:43 AM |
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Hi all .
just for info :
i opened an account on hashie to compare with zen (on hashie there is a market a little bit like cex and zencloud) .
here is the figure :
for a 10 GHS miner on hashie :
Type payout
Amount 0.00006703
Time 2014-11-06 00:00:12
Earnings 0.00012704
Fees 0.00006001
for a genesis haslet (beware it is a 4 Ths, you have to divide ) :
Device Name
Hashlet SHA256 (Hashlet Genesis)
Power 3940 GH
BTC Payout 0.03942366 BTC
Maintenance Fee -0.02304112 BTC
At the end It seems fees are a little bit higher on zencloud .
(I use to have some GHS on cex.io but i sold it , between fees and price drop . you can not ROI there)
To clarify, our maintenance fee is the same. Our payouts are the theoretical maximum mining rewards, and hence are higher than pool payouts which include orphans, pool fees, etc. -Sahra Thanks for the comment |
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galdur
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November 07, 2014, 10:29:51 AM |
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Almost 4 THS yields .016/day ?!
Now; that´s comatose.
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chmick
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November 07, 2014, 10:33:20 AM |
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Almost 4 THS yields .016/day ?!
Now; that´s comatose.
Sorry but English is not my birth language . Could you explain your sentence ? |
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dyask
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November 07, 2014, 10:47:56 AM |
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There is so many running around here crying about anything they can try to make look bad about GAW. It is amazing.  While I never trusted GAW/Zen 100%, I was able to invest a dozen bitcoins and get the full amount back in less than three months. I also have a pretty good amount of Primes and Zens left. (>100 of each) Succeeding required me to change my plans multiple times and I did get hit with some bad events. However the environment there isn't anything like the people here make it out to be. Yes there are problems, but there are also opportunities. I don't know how this coin they are working on is going to pan out, but that is the game now. Since I'm unsure, I'm not going to invest anymore there. If things change, then I might. One thing is for sure though, I'm not going to take investment advice from this thread.  |
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galdur
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November 07, 2014, 10:53:56 AM |
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Almost 4 THS yields .016/day ?!
Now; that´s comatose.
Sorry but English is not my birth language . Could you explain your sentence ? Like, half-dead money. |
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November 07, 2014, 11:38:09 AM |
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There is so many running around here crying about anything they can try to make look bad about GAW. It is amazing. What's really sad is that some people feel the need to make 4 accounts to create the illusion that many people support GAW's shady/scammy business practices. The only people making GAW look bad is themselves. They could easily remove some of the dozens of redflags but instead they raise new red flags almost daily. But then again, why remove the red flags when you could just continue marketing to the naive/gullible? While I never trusted GAW/Zen 100%, I was able to invest a dozen bitcoins and get the full amount back in less than three months. I also have a pretty good amount of Primes and Zens left. (>100 of each) Succeeding required me to change my plans multiple times and I did get hit with some bad events. However the environment there isn't anything like the people here make it out to be. Yes there are problems, but there are also opportunities. I don't know how this coin they are working on is going to pan out, but that is the game now. Since I'm unsure, I'm not going to invest anymore there. If things change, then I might. One thing is for sure though, I'm not going to take investment advice from this thread. Congrats on your gamble. It's nice to see that even some of the most hardcore fanatics are having a hard time buying into this new scheme. Investment advice on this forum may be bad, but anything is better than an astroturfed forum by a company whose only goal is to take your money via every get rich quick scheme known to man. |
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Snipe85
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November 07, 2014, 11:53:45 AM |
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If you want to discuss and debate the merits of ltcgear, point me to the thread, and we can debate. As far as I understand, this thread is to discuss the merits of GAW and hashlets. So you should probably try and stay close to the topic, rather than dropping to ad hominem.
As for your signature - I did not see any LTC signature campaign on our forum. It means either: 1. You working for LTC trying to promote their stuff. 2. You are fanboy and you think LTC is the best and only one legit cloud mining. 3. You have some kind of deal with LTC to promote them. I get the impression that your judgement is biased and you can't be trusted. That is all. Login with the wrong account to post that? Either way I'm done with this nonsense. Both of you on ignore. Put me on your ignore list too.... you are annoying me also. Thank you for ignoring me kupan787. This in a way proves my point. As for that guy with multiple accounts... This is also a common tactics on this forum. I could bet you there are more of them on both sides of the fence. I read a topic in meta about a user with over 40 accounts. |
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dyask
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November 07, 2014, 11:59:02 AM |
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There is so many running around here crying about anything they can try to make look bad about GAW. It is amazing. What's really sad is that some people feel the need to make 4 accounts to create the illusion that many people support GAW's shady/scammy business practices. I have multiple GAW/Zen accounts because buying accounts was the only second market for a while. Hashlets still can't be traded. GAW is getting many new people though everyday. There has been a lot of excitement built up. You are wrong to assume it is only a few people, the community is large. I'm not involved with any charades going on here, if that is what you meant. While I never trusted GAW/Zen 100%, I was able to invest a dozen bitcoins and get the full amount back in less than three months. I also have a pretty good amount of Primes and Zens left. (>100 of each) Succeeding required me to change my plans multiple times and I did get hit with some bad events. However the environment there isn't anything like the people here make it out to be. Yes there are problems, but there are also opportunities. I don't know how this coin they are working on is going to pan out, but that is the game now. Since I'm unsure, I'm not going to invest anymore there. If things change, then I might. One thing is for sure though, I'm not going to take investment advice from this thread. Congrats on your gamble. It's nice to see that even some of the most hardcore fanatics are having a hard time buying into this new scheme. Investment advice on this forum may be bad, but anything is better than an astroturfed forum by a company whose only goal is to take your money via every get rich quick scheme known to man. I'm not a hardcore GAW supporter. There are so many hardcore GAW haters here that it makes any normal person look extreme compared to them. If I firmly believed in what GAW was doing, I would probably have 10x the amount of primes as I do now. I've tried lots of cloud mining companies. GAW just happens be one of the few that has paid off.  |
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Searing
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November 07, 2014, 12:00:40 PM |
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wish GAW would contact me I'd give them a deal on a 300mh Titan NEW IN BOX miner for their hashnet instead...they should offer this option
just don't want to deal with home mining anymore...(like anyone from GAW reads this thread or would have access to someone at their scrypt farm)
nice daydream huh?
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Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:) |
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dyask
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November 07, 2014, 12:02:21 PM |
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wish GAW would contact me I'd give them a deal on a 300mh Titan NEW IN BOX miner for their hashnet instead...they should offer this option
just don't want to deal with home mining anymore...(like anyone from GAW reads this thread or would have access to someone at their scrypt farm)
nice daydream huh?
New Titan, now there is a winning investment!  |
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Searing
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November 07, 2014, 12:19:25 PM |
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wish GAW would contact me I'd give them a deal on a 300mh Titan NEW IN BOX miner for their hashnet instead...they should offer this option
just don't want to deal with home mining anymore...(like anyone from GAW reads this thread or would have access to someone at their scrypt farm)
nice daydream huh?
New Titan, now there is a winning investment! yeah kick a guy when he is down...march 27th KNC could do no wrong ..I mean the 3TH Jupiters (frankenjupiters) they made had issues but even then KNC came thru and fixed or gave modules...compensated...Titan's ZIPPO so all was well in my little world march 27th....but KNC going full out to the dark side ...like a nun sprinting off to be a porn star...I was completely blind sided KNC saw big $$$ and reputation be damned.....was tossed off the boat w/o warning imho... and no refunds or compensation of any kind at all ...which now seems to mean from their own words bad chips/dies/fire hazard and 7 weeks late from their ship time ...but still no refunds and their own timeline on RMA now is 8 weeks (prob later) as well...going to virtual cloud with no pesky customers anymore ...no need to even try or give a f*ck....so probably this should be a rule of thumb to all ...no pre-orders ever again imho due to a bank error I had to declare (legal miner usa) paid no taxes due to expenses and equip 2013 and this year was dismal likely no issue with paying taxes 2014 either my one saving point for this year and last year is I can take this off as equip depreciation which means if I string the biz along for 3 more years after jan 2015 I get 25% off my equipment costs back in real $$$ applied to what I would pay in taxes....so my $10,131.80 Titan only cost me in reality $7598.85 so what ever I can shave off of that mining scrypt at this point anyway... I'm golden....not much ...but does take some of the sting out of being completely blindsided by KNC.... so anyway.....you work with the cards i'm dealt (as most of us know at these btc prices and scrypt prices) ...legal miner wise...knc betrayal wise... not sure I'd recommend this route to others..but ain't as bad as it could have been....(now I went and jinxed myself!) |
Old Style Legacy Plug & Play BBS System. Get it from www.synchro.net. Updated 1/1/2021. It also works with Windows 10 and likely 11 and allows 16 bit DOS game doors on the same Win 10 Machine in Multi-Node! Five Minute Install! Look it over it uninstalls just as fast, if you simply want to look it over. Freeware! Full BBS System! It is a frigging hoot!:) |
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November 07, 2014, 01:17:32 PM |
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@Searing - At least you received a physical miner. I ordered a @250mh/s Viper from the Alpha Technology thieves. Live and learn.
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dyask
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November 07, 2014, 01:24:51 PM |
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@Searing, @JeffW I was throwing salt in open wounds. Sorry  My bad investments are funny now, but they weren't at the time! Like the 12 BTC I lost by blindly reinvesting in scrypt.cc. |
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