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November 30, 2016, 09:23:11 AM
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I am pleased to announce, seed1.sterlingcoin.org.uk is now back online and already has 21 connections as of the time of this writing. This is one of the DNS seednodes hard-coded into the existing wallets and will help all wallets find peers and thus sync faster and more reliably. The VPS used is of the highest quality and has full DDoS protection.

Also, sterlingcoin.org.uk is finally pointing to sterlingcoin.org and users of the Sterlingcoin Full Release wallets will notice their in-wallet twitter feed does now work again. Traffic is no longer pointing to the .guru domain that was used as a temporary financial crutch of the past.

Many apologies for the length of time it took to get these objectives completed. Obtaining the .org.uk credentials from my colleagues so the necessary DNS changes could be made proved to be more difficult than anticipated.

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November 30, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
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I am pleased to announce, seed1.sterlingcoin.org.uk is now back online and already has 21 connections as of the time of this writing. This is one of the DNS seednodes hard-coded into the existing wallets and will help all wallets find peers and thus sync faster and more reliably. The VPS used is of the highest quality and has full DDoS protection.

Also, sterlingcoin.org.uk is finally pointing to sterlingcoin.org and users of the Sterlingcoin Full Release wallets will notice their in-wallet twitter feed does now work again. Traffic is no longer pointing to the .guru domain that was used as a temporary financial crutch of the past.

Many apologies for the length of time it took to get these objectives completed. Obtaining the .org.uk credentials from my colleagues so the necessary DNS changes could be made proved to be more difficult than anticipated.


Thanks for the update!!
Great to see SLG moving forward!!
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hi all ...

if sterlingcoin is to progress in any way shape or form - its needs a dedicated dev and team behind it ...

the loose and careless interest from the other two devs - that have more interest in their other projects than sterlingcoin - is proof that control needs to pass to the one dedicated dev ( and yes - who happens to be part of our team also ) - steven saxton ...

if this comes about - we ( chainworks industries - cwi ) will back the network and infrastructure fully ...

personally - ive been watching for a long time now - the demise of the success of slg due to the inadequate input of the others and the lack of interest on their parts ... if a takeover is agreeable ( and i for one - cast the initial vote ) - i vote that steven should take full control over the threads - domains - and all others things slg related ... infrastructure is a no brainer for cwi as we have an extensive and growing network that will support slg in every way if our member of 'theteam' is voted as sole beneficiary ( hence controller ) of slg ...

not only will the support be there - but also a more dedicated development schedule and focus ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

#crysx

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December 01, 2016, 04:58:49 PM
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hi all ...

if sterlingcoin is to progress in any way shape or form - its needs a dedicated dev and team behind it ...

the loose and careless interest from the other two devs - that have more interest in their other projects than sterlingcoin - is proof that control needs to pass to the one dedicated dev ( and yes - who happens to be part of our team also ) - steven saxton ...

if this comes about - we ( chainworks industries - cwi ) will back the network and infrastructure fully ...

personally - ive been watching for a long time now - the demise of the success of slg due to the inadequate input of the others and the lack of interest on their parts ... if a takeover is agreeable ( and i for one - cast the initial vote ) - i vote that steven should take full control over the threads - domains - and all others things slg related ... infrastructure is a no brainer for cwi as we have an extensive and growing network that will support slg in every way if our member of 'theteam' is voted as sole beneficiary ( hence controller ) of slg ...

not only will the support be there - but also a more dedicated development schedule and focus ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

#crysx

Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here


I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.


- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?


Thanks!!
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December 02, 2016, 02:12:36 AM
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hi all ...

if sterlingcoin is to progress in any way shape or form - its needs a dedicated dev and team behind it ...

the loose and careless interest from the other two devs - that have more interest in their other projects than sterlingcoin - is proof that control needs to pass to the one dedicated dev ( and yes - who happens to be part of our team also ) - steven saxton ...

if this comes about - we ( chainworks industries - cwi ) will back the network and infrastructure fully ...

personally - ive been watching for a long time now - the demise of the success of slg due to the inadequate input of the others and the lack of interest on their parts ... if a takeover is agreeable ( and i for one - cast the initial vote ) - i vote that steven should take full control over the threads - domains - and all others things slg related ... infrastructure is a no brainer for cwi as we have an extensive and growing network that will support slg in every way if our member of 'theteam' is voted as sole beneficiary ( hence controller ) of slg ...

not only will the support be there - but also a more dedicated development schedule and focus ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

#crysx

Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here


I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.


- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?


Thanks!!

i totally disagree with you on every point ...

because all your points are dependent on devs that have not had ANY interest in the development - nor the contact / success - of the project or steven himself ...

opinions of other devs? ... their opinions only matter when they involve themselves to the level that steven has ... PERIOD! ...

the fact that steven IS the guy pushing / working / developing and reaching out - with almost NO response from the other two devs in about a year - should be enough proof that there should be a shift of control from the others to just steven ...

there is nothing wrong with having a team of devs IF - and only IF - they are all active AND proactive in the project ... but the reluctance for ANYTHING to happen by the other two in such a very long time - not only makes for progression to be stunted in a way that the project cannot afford - but also proves time and time again - that the control they have over the project means the inevitable death of it ...

i have worked with steven for such a long time now - and have had my fair share of irresponsible ( yup - i said it ) and unreliable devs ( yup - i said it again ) ... and i have booted them from the projects i have been involved in ... steven is reliable - competent AND talented ... he is also one of the most passionate devs i have ever met - which can also be a little bit of a burden ... but he is the dev that deserves to have the complete control of a project that deserves a dev like him ... so much so that when i invited him to be part of 'theteam' of cwi as the core dev - he accepted - and has proven himself over and over and over again ...

cwi is becoming a business beyond what i started and is fast becoming a business in its own right - and i am proud to have steven as part of theteam ...

the other two devs? ... not a chance in hell - no matter how talented they are ...

their actions toward this project - the other project - and the 'new' project they have restarted - PROVES their lack of dedication to the projects AND the devs of any team they work with ... their reluctance with help in this project has set steven AND the entire project back by many many MANY months ... what does this do in turn? ... affects the community that supports the project with moral and financial support ...

nup - the first vote is mine ... and steven is the one ...

another 7btc of mine posted ...

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December 02, 2016, 02:42:29 PM
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hi all ...

if sterlingcoin is to progress in any way shape or form - its needs a dedicated dev and team behind it ...

the loose and careless interest from the other two devs - that have more interest in their other projects than sterlingcoin - is proof that control needs to pass to the one dedicated dev ( and yes - who happens to be part of our team also ) - steven saxton ...

if this comes about - we ( chainworks industries - cwi ) will back the network and infrastructure fully ...

personally - ive been watching for a long time now - the demise of the success of slg due to the inadequate input of the others and the lack of interest on their parts ... if a takeover is agreeable ( and i for one - cast the initial vote ) - i vote that steven should take full control over the threads - domains - and all others things slg related ... infrastructure is a no brainer for cwi as we have an extensive and growing network that will support slg in every way if our member of 'theteam' is voted as sole beneficiary ( hence controller ) of slg ...

not only will the support be there - but also a more dedicated development schedule and focus ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

#crysx

Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here


I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.


- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?


Thanks!!

i totally disagree with you on every point ...

because all your points are dependent on devs that have not had ANY interest in the development - nor the contact / success - of the project or steven himself ...

opinions of other devs? ... their opinions only matter when they involve themselves to the level that steven has ... PERIOD! ...

the fact that steven IS the guy pushing / working / developing and reaching out - with almost NO response from the other two devs in about a year - should be enough proof that there should be a shift of control from the others to just steven ...

there is nothing wrong with having a team of devs IF - and only IF - they are all active AND proactive in the project ... but the reluctance for ANYTHING to happen by the other two in such a very long time - not only makes for progression to be stunted in a way that the project cannot afford - but also proves time and time again - that the control they have over the project means the inevitable death of it ...

i have worked with steven for such a long time now - and have had my fair share of irresponsible ( yup - i said it ) and unreliable devs ( yup - i said it again ) ... and i have booted them from the projects i have been involved in ... steven is reliable - competent AND talented ... he is also one of the most passionate devs i have ever met - which can also be a little bit of a burden ... but he is the dev that deserves to have the complete control of a project that deserves a dev like him ... so much so that when i invited him to be part of 'theteam' of cwi as the core dev - he accepted - and has proven himself over and over and over again ...

cwi is becoming a business beyond what i started and is fast becoming a business in its own right - and i am proud to have steven as part of theteam ...

the other two devs? ... not a chance in hell - no matter how talented they are ...

their actions toward this project - the other project - and the 'new' project they have restarted - PROVES their lack of dedication to the projects AND the devs of any team they work with ... their reluctance with help in this project has set steven AND the entire project back by many many MANY months ... what does this do in turn? ... affects the community that supports the project with moral and financial support ...

nup - the first vote is mine ... and steven is the one ...

another 7btc of mine posted ...

#crysx

I agree steve is a great dev and the other 2 are in other projects.
Not sure if you understood me.
I just want the other 2 devs to understand and agree they dont have time so they are no longer involved.
I dont wont them to come later, and start fuding.
They have to agree that a new person is in charge of the coin and they only will come back to help.


Again:
- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.


- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?

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December 02, 2016, 07:06:30 PM
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Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here

I, Steven, do honestly think the nonexistent communication speaks volumes of their opinion. There is and will be no fight, I assure you of that. In fact, it appears I am the only one left fighting. Matthew and Spencer are my friends and very skilled and knowledgeable, no question. We do respect each other, even if we do not understand. I am put a very precarious position often when questions of timeframes are asked and I often cannot get a response from even the lead on the project. I do feel it is long past the point I can continue to make excuses. I am sure many of you agree. No, I am not trying to railroad my friends, but my arm is getting tired from holding the door open. I can imagine some of you are tired from watching me try and your arms tired from holding bags perhaps.

I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.

It would be not one sole dedicated dev under CWI's umbrella nor would I bear the financial burdens alone. Rather I, and presumably Sterlingcoin, would have access to a team of dedicated people. All the knowledge and skill in the world is useless if you can't communicate with it. The CWI team is growing as well as I just brought in, pending Crysx's interview, my right hand man from another project yesterday.

No, no one else would be dictating any changes to the Sterlingcoin code and I only acting under the community’s approval. I have repeatedly said that and nothing would be changing in that regard. Yes, I might bring in other CWI staff to assist but of course, all changes would be scrutinized and thoroughly tested.

- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

Sterlingcoin needs an active and dependable team to formulate a plan. As we have seen, me making a plan and relying on not present team members not only puts me in a bad position but, only leads to disappointment both on my side and the community's.

Anything that is done, be it wallet enhancement, network fortification, ect., is done with the user in mind.

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?
Thanks!!
CWI's infrastructure is immense already and set to grow. Sterlingcoin would immediately benefit from that, to the tune of 25 additional seednodes. The one seednode that launched a few days ago is and would remain under my control alone. In tandem with that, myself and CWI staff would get the block explorer online but, as previously promised, the block explorer is coming regardless. That too, as would the sterlingcoin.org domain and website, would remain under my control. CWI would never be replacing me or my role to the community.

Core code would follow and the rebase would proceed, but at a much faster rate with dependable help to that extremely large task. Again, no changes would be made without me receiving permission from the community prior.


I will make effort to discuss this with Matthew and Spencer. I know not how fast I will get a response. If they or the community object to this, I will continue to do my best to keep Sterlingcoin afloat and fulfil my obligations to the community as promised. But I do think gaining the support of CWI would not only help me fulfil my obligations, but carry Sterlingcoin to much further heights.

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December 03, 2016, 12:05:25 AM
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Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here

I, Steven, do honestly think the nonexistent communication speaks volumes of their opinion. There is and will be no fight, I assure you of that. In fact, it appears I am the only one left fighting. Matthew and Spencer are my friends and very skilled and knowledgeable, no question. We do respect each other, even if we do not understand. I am put a very precarious position often when questions of timeframes are asked and I often cannot get a response from even the lead on the project. I do feel it is long past the point I can continue to make excuses. I am sure many of you agree. No, I am not trying to railroad my friends, but my arm is getting tired from holding the door open. I can imagine some of you are tired from watching me try and your arms tired from holding bags perhaps.

I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.

It would be not one sole dedicated dev under CWI's umbrella nor would I bear the financial burdens alone. Rather I, and presumably Sterlingcoin, would have access to a team of dedicated people. All the knowledge and skill in the world is useless if you can't communicate with it. The CWI team is growing as well as I just brought in, pending Crysx's interview, my right hand man from another project yesterday.

No, no one else would be dictating any changes to the Sterlingcoin code and I only acting under the community’s approval. I have repeatedly said that and nothing would be changing in that regard. Yes, I might bring in other CWI staff to assist but of course, all changes would be scrutinized and thoroughly tested.

- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

Sterlingcoin needs an active and dependable team to formulate a plan. As we have seen, me making a plan and relying on not present team members not only puts me in a bad position but, only leads to disappointment both on my side and the community's.

Anything that is done, be it wallet enhancement, network fortification, ect., is done with the user in mind.

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?
Thanks!!
CWI's infrastructure is immense already and set to grow. Sterlingcoin would immediately benefit from that, to the tune of 25 additional seednodes. The one seednode that launched a few days ago is and would remain under my control alone. In tandem with that, myself and CWI staff would get the block explorer online but, as previously promised, the block explorer is coming regardless. That too, as would the sterlingcoin.org domain and website, would remain under my control. CWI would never be replacing me or my role to the community.

Core code would follow and the rebase would proceed, but at a much faster rate with dependable help to that extremely large task. Again, no changes would be made without me receiving permission from the community prior.


I will make effort to discuss this with Matthew and Spencer. I know not how fast I will get a response. If they or the community object to this, I will continue to do my best to keep Sterlingcoin afloat and fulfil my obligations to the community as promised. But I do think gaining the support of CWI would not only help me fulfil my obligations, but carry Sterlingcoin to much further heights.


ok
Being your friends and understanding that we need to move on, everything will be fine.
Also knowing that wont be any radical changes without community approval...

I vote YES to have CWI onboard and you, Steven as Chief Code Manager (aka project leader) (or the most suitable name)
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December 03, 2016, 08:48:21 AM
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hi all ...

if sterlingcoin is to progress in any way shape or form - its needs a dedicated dev and team behind it ...

the loose and careless interest from the other two devs - that have more interest in their other projects than sterlingcoin - is proof that control needs to pass to the one dedicated dev ( and yes - who happens to be part of our team also ) - steven saxton ...

if this comes about - we ( chainworks industries - cwi ) will back the network and infrastructure fully ...

personally - ive been watching for a long time now - the demise of the success of slg due to the inadequate input of the others and the lack of interest on their parts ... if a takeover is agreeable ( and i for one - cast the initial vote ) - i vote that steven should take full control over the threads - domains - and all others things slg related ... infrastructure is a no brainer for cwi as we have an extensive and growing network that will support slg in every way if our member of 'theteam' is voted as sole beneficiary ( hence controller ) of slg ...

not only will the support be there - but also a more dedicated development schedule and focus ...

thats my 7btc worth ...

#crysx

Hi,

I think it's a great offer but there are some points to be cleared out.

- What are the opinions and plans of the other 2 devs?
Because for the best interest of all of us, we dont wont to start a fight here


I do agree is better 1 dedicated dev than 3 devs but only one working

- What does controling the coin include?
I wouldnt agree if that means you gonna change the specs without community aproval.


- What are your plans for SLG? Are you gonna focus in the user?

- In which areas are you gonna be working on? network - core code - PR - merchants - hardwallets - social media?


Thanks!!

i totally disagree with you on every point ...

because all your points are dependent on devs that have not had ANY interest in the development - nor the contact / success - of the project or steven himself ...

opinions of other devs? ... their opinions only matter when they involve themselves to the level that steven has ... PERIOD! ...

the fact that steven IS the guy pushing / working / developing and reaching out - with almost NO response from the other two devs in about a year - should be enough proof that there should be a shift of control from the others to just steven ...

there is nothing wrong with having a team of devs IF - and only IF - they are all active AND proactive in the project ... but the reluctance for ANYTHING to happen by the other two in such a very long time - not only makes for progression to be stunted in a way that the project cannot afford - but also proves time and time again - that the control they have over the project means the inevitable death of it ...

i have worked with steven for such a long time now - and have had my fair share of irresponsible ( yup - i said it ) and unreliable devs ( yup - i said it again ) ... and i have booted them from the projects i have been involved in ... steven is reliable - competent AND talented ... he is also one of the most passionate devs i have ever met - which can also be a little bit of a burden ... but he is the dev that deserves to have the complete control of a project that deserves a dev like him ... so much so that when i invited him to be part of 'theteam' of cwi as the core dev - he accepted - and has proven himself over and over and over again ...

cwi is becoming a business beyond what i started and is fast becoming a business in its own right - and i am proud to have steven as part of theteam ...

the other two devs? ... not a chance in hell - no matter how talented they are ...

their actions toward this project - the other project - and the 'new' project they have restarted - PROVES their lack of dedication to the projects AND the devs of any team they work with ... their reluctance with help in this project has set steven AND the entire project back by many many MANY months ... what does this do in turn? ... affects the community that supports the project with moral and financial support ...

nup - the first vote is mine ... and steven is the one ...

another 7btc of mine posted ...

#crysx

I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.
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December 03, 2016, 11:55:32 AM
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it
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December 03, 2016, 01:52:47 PM
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon
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There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



 

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

I think he didnt mean it to cover some distinct national entity when he said global. U say nationalism so it would mean financial elitism for a particular group of people that would use this coin as an official surrogate printed money. Its not meant to fit that niche. When it has 300 supporters its already global.
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.

You're mixing stuff.

- There is no inflation since the value of your holding is the same. So there is no devaluation in your portfolio which is the consecuence of inflation.
Investors can stay calm

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being less scarce. Therefore more affordable for more people.
No new people included in this movement.
Yes you can say it has 8 digits to be used, but people dont wanna have 0.0005 of something, the wanna have 50 of that.
It's just a matter of perception.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.

You're mixing stuff.

- There is no inflation since the value of your holding is the same. So there is no devaluation in your portfolio which is the consecuence of inflation.
Investors can stay calm

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being less scarce. Therefore more affordable for more people.
No new people included in this movement.
Yes you can say it has 8 digits to be used, but people dont wanna have 0.0005 of something, the wanna have 50 of that.
It's just a matter of perception.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc

You are wrong. You dont want to catch a few coins that maybe dont even make an inflation but you want to do a split 5* that will inflate the coin 500%. You cant catch 16 million coins at once but you can catch a few thousand. If you can make PR like you said then 5 coins per block is nothing and the coins price will rise. This coins need security, more coins and more ppl. Everything cant be solved at once because of funds. Crunch some numbers and see how much you pay bittrex for nothing. How about getting a few coins and help trading. It will not do all but it will make a little movement. New algo, PoW and PR and some more coins will do much. A 500% inflation are crazy. It will destroy this coin and do nothing for it.
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I agree with you crysx

This coin was a very good coin. It still legit and working but there is a huge lack of interest. Rw13enlib88  thinks steven can fix everything for nothing. Just the rebase takes a lot of time and effort. I have started companies outside internet and one thing is the most importent to know and that is "A product can be superior but if it has no costumer it will fail".

SLG is old. Its hard to make PR for it. It needs some work. It needs something new and that could be a  new algo and PoW. There are also other ways to go but that is more work and it needs more money.Some ppl here thinks that they can sit on their bag and everything will be good. First of all SLG is a global coin. Coins are not limited by borders. Secondly if a coin has a few ppl holding it then new ppl will hesitate to get into it because they are scared of beeing dumped on. SLG coinsupply is to low.

Steven is a good guy. He have been here alone riding the storm. Dont work against him. Work with him or this coin will be dead.

I dont think Steven can fix everything, but he will do his best.

SLG is old and that is good. Do you prefer to use a 7 year old coin or a recently created alt? Cmmon, dont be naive...

It's hard to make PR fot it? lol
Have you heard about nationalism? Brexit?
BoE creating his own digital currency like SLG but with centralization?
https://www.rt.com/business/352280-england-cb-bitcoins-issue/
Do you understand that right now, we are about 10 million people using digital currencies?
Do you understand that we are about 7.000 million people on earth?

First of all, when you compete against thousands of coins you need to focus on a niche. Maybe you dont understand it, because as it seems you dont have any concept of marketing. If you have launched companies outside internet with a good product and you have failed to attract customers is because you dont know anything about marketing.

Second, do people hesitate buying BTC because there are some rich people holding btc?
Third, you're right coinsupply is low. It should be increased but not for the reasons you mention.
It should be increased to fit the new users and dont have one SLG too expensive in €/$/pound
You should learn about monetary policy...

4th, we all agree, we are not here to work against Steven, we are all here to help Steven and SLG, and for sure I'll make my best on it

You are comparing SLG with bitcoin. That is so out of bounds. Bitcoin was not first. We had another in europe and it was in banks. It failed because of funds. Bitcoin had a lot of problems in the beginning. It was called a scam and other things. A lot of ppl are into bitcoins just because they think they will be rich. Before the price rised it was just hardcored computer ppl that was interested in it. Still ppl dont understand the idea about bitcoins. They just want to trade it or with it on exchanges.

You compared it with NLG. That is also wrong. NLG is a scamcoin. They had a large premine that was going to be distributed to ppl. That did not happen. Now they are using that premine to develope the coin. So now it getting less shady. SLG dont have that premine so there is no funds to use for development.

I have succeded with my companies and it is because I have knowledge of PR and economy.

Its hard to get more ppl into crypto because wallets are not easy to use and if you lose your password then your money are gone. There needs to be more development on the clientside before it can be used in a way that more ppl understand.

Your problem is that you dont understand that you can not have the same % of the coins and still develope SLG. There must be more ppl into it and your % have to change. But if it is done right the price will rise and you will benefit from it more than you lose. The main point is that there are no funds and more ppl and more coins needs to be in the community. PoW and algo is one way to go.

Giving more coins to you so you can keep your % will not solve the problems. Sooner or later Bitrex will delist this coin. It dont matter to them that the minimum trades are done. They want to have coins with a future.  

Stop looking at other coins. SLG is a working coin. It has no shady past. It lacks funding and development. Development are costly and takes time. Things needs to be happening soon

- Yes, I'm comparing SLG to BTC, SLG to NLG, SLG to GBP and whatever that help us take perspective.

- 100% of the people involved in BTC wants to make money.
If you just want to improve the world, sell your BTC and keep helping so we can have a better world.
Same stuff with alts.

- NLG didnt mantain their original road map, not sure if that counts as scam, but i dont care. The good point of NLG is that they are actively developing it.

- Congrats for your sucess in those business!

- It's hard to get new users, I agree, that's why we need development.
But you're forgeting the main motivation to attract new people.
FOMO.
It happend before, and it's gonna happen again.

- I understand that I dont want my investment diluted and I understand that you dont understand that chainging the algo or moving to PoW is not a marketing tool. It's the spec of the coin. We need marketing tools!

- Bittrex wont delist SLG.

- If you read my previous posts, you already know that I'm willing to collaborate in the funding with SLG and BTC


There are another benefit to go PoW again and that is increased security.

This coin has more tha one problem and there is not money or time to fix everything at once.
If we go the road some wants and that is to keep their % of this coin and make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year. It will not do any good for this coin and exchanges dont like it and can delist the coin.

There are some security risks that this coin has and the first is PoS with coinage. The second is Cryptsy and it is nearly the same as the first. We dont know who in charge of the wallet and what is going to happend to it. It will get a huge coinage and its a high risk for this coin. Other old wallets are also an risk.


Thats why I insist that a low cost solution are to make a comeback with PoW. You need both to have coinage and the most hashing power to bring this coin down.

One solution are to make 2 coins per block. That would give  1440 new coins/day. Not much to catch and it will help a little with the trades. I would also suggest to change algo. If you reward more than 2 coins/block I think there is no way to avoid a algo change. I also think that a discussion with the other devs to incorperate this coin into the weaver would be possible.

But a very good PR are also needed to get more interest in the coin. I think we can buy 5 coins per block without problem  if algo are changed to the same as darksilk. Devs have the code and it would not be so hard to change SLG. Mining can be done with CPU or GPU.

I also suggest that max coinage will be 30 days.  Discuss it and give steven some inputs.



  

- "make an split 5:1. That i s bad economy because that is nearly the same as giving near 500% PoS for a year."
dude wtf? It's adapting the monetary base to the users, which should have been done since the beggining...
You understand the market cap will be the same right? so it's 0% increase in your value...

- If coinage is a big problem, I could agree moving to PoW manteining the monetary policy.
Keeping the same monetary policy is basic.

- 2 coins per block = 1440 per day = 525600 per year = 13.5% inflation
2 coins doesnt sound that much for miners but is a 13.5% inflation which is bigger than 5.5% inflation we have right now
You see why I was proposing the 5:1? Because it makes no sense to be more scarce than btc (it still would be with a 5:1 conversion)

- 5 coins per block would be hyperinflation, so nop nop nop, or atleast without conversion. 13.5% inflation sounds too much compared to 5.5%, so 33.8% is less interesting.


Making a split is inflation. Coins will be 5 times cheaper and only bagholders will get the coins. No new ppl will get into the economy with that move and you will not secure the coin from attacks. Investors in companies in my country wants around 15% returns to be interesting for them.  Your proposing of 500% inflation is not good to the coin. You dont understand basic economy but you have to understand that this coin needs both  PoW and PR and that badly.

You're mixing stuff.

- There is no inflation since the value of your holding is the same. So there is no devaluation in your portfolio which is the consecuence of inflation.
Investors can stay calm

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being less scarce. Therefore more affordable for more people.
No new people included in this movement.
Yes you can say it has 8 digits to be used, but people dont wanna have 0.0005 of something, the wanna have 50 of that.
It's just a matter of perception.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc

You are wrong. You dont want to catch a few coins that maybe dont even make an inflation but you want to do a split 5* that will inflate the coin 500%. You cant catch 16 million coins at once but you can catch a few thousand. If you can make PR like you said then 5 coins per block is nothing and the coins price will rise. This coins need security, more coins and more ppl. Everything cant be solved at once because of funds. Crunch some numbers and see how much you pay bittrex for nothing. How about getting a few coins and help trading. It will not do all but it will make a little movement. New algo, PoW and PR and some more coins will do much. A 500% inflation are crazy. It will destroy this coin and do nothing for it.

again... dude you are mixing stuff.
i'm gonna try to explain it more detailed

1:5 or 5* or split.
One time
More offer and same demand, make the price goes down to 1/5.
Means no inflation to holders becuase you end up having the same value.
The total supply of SLG increase one time.

PoW inflation
Everyday
More offer, same demand. Make the price goes down depending on the % created.
Means inflation to the holders. You end up losing value.
The total suplly of SLG increase every year.

PoS inflation
Everyday
More offer, same demand. Make the price goes down depending on the % created.
Means no inflation to holders becuase you end up having the same value.
The total suplly of SLG increase every year.


Do you see the difference?

There is a reason for each thing.
Dont try to mix them all
I'll already explain which reason is behind what stuff, but here you have it again

- The split is for having more coins. Therefore being more abundant. Therefore more affordable for more people.

- PoW as you propose is to solve coinage issue and get new people into SLG by mining with CPU and GPU

- PR is to attract new users/developers/investors/merchants.
Make interviews in the crypto and the mainstream media, ads in news site, some kind of contest to promote SLG, etc
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Making a split will hurt holders also its only the first dumper that will benefit from it. You cant secure the coin with a split. You still have a kind of inflation when you pay fees for 7BTC trading. And next time they maybe will ask for 10BTC trading. To few holders and PoS means you have to pump and dump your own coin. I could write more but I .....


Nothing are stopping you from making PR for this coin. So start now. With constantly delisting mesages on BIttrex and a unsecure coin. Who will invest in it. And with another 16 miljon coins that can be dumped on investors and make an inflation that can crash this coin to a few satoshi worth. On top of that Cryptsys wallet can come back to life and make huge problems. It can fork SLG.

Your proposal of a split dont solve anything it just worsening the problems and making a huge inflation. What will you call the new coin with more coins NSLG?

You dont understand coins and you dont understand economy. Which coins have you done marketing for and were you succesfull?
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I just saw something that I dont like from you. You took a great mans name and put it on a shitcoin. That coin is also in danger od delistning. Your skills are not that good and you should not use Teslas name. I dont think you have skills you just want to get 5 times more coins to dump. Tesla is under 100 sat. And that is what you want to do with SLG.
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