DarkhorseofNxt
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November 04, 2014, 03:31:39 AM |
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Been away for a while, good to know someone is willing to take up the project. But my concern is will earlier stakeholders like me, who have not claimed their RSU will get a share of the project, or we have been kicked out of the project....
Anyone who currently hold an RS asset will get his share of coins. The list of all current holders to be composed by Darkhorse. The final date to submit claims will be announced in advance. What about users that did not take NXT assests? I was the one who waited for wallet release? I am sorry, but the current idea is to use the Nxt AE stake holders. If you want to be involved, you can get your share there. Current selling price in AE for 1000 rs apprx. 128 nxt. Of course you have time now until the wallet release, cannot guarantee the price will stay at that when the redeem point comes.
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halicarton
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November 04, 2014, 04:01:10 AM |
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128 NXT=1000 RSU? QUITE CHEAP !
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Chris001
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November 04, 2014, 04:18:38 AM |
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Nice to see you guys doing some here.
Im on the list, and never got anything.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=186785Here is the link to my trust settings here on forum. This trust system is very unfair. I make good on every deal Ive ever made. I had many, many deals as you can see and I never scammed anyone. All it takes is a random account to give you negative trust and youre screwed. Tomatocage has never even talked to me ever but when the random acct hit me with negative trust, Tomatocage came right behind him and marked neg trust again so obviously he was the one who did it. You can look at Tomatocage trust and see how many of his compeditors at the currency exchange thread he labeled scammers. I never scammed anyone. My trust was green over 20 before this. I hope it never happens to you because the mods cant help you.
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wwbit
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November 04, 2014, 05:54:52 AM |
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this is good news.
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juicejoyce
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November 04, 2014, 09:44:07 AM |
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128 NXT=1000 RSU? QUITE CHEAP !
anyone still buy the token? any confidence here from new team?
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 04, 2014, 11:16:24 AM |
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128 NXT=1000 RSU? QUITE CHEAP !
anyone still buy the token? any confidence here from new team? Confident or not, we will continue the project.
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davien
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November 04, 2014, 11:36:49 AM |
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i've been on the road couple of weeks, what is new ? thank you
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bee7
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November 04, 2014, 01:47:52 PM |
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These are Hyperstake's vital statistics: -X11 PoW blocks already phased out -Proof of Stake Blocks Only -90 Second Block Time -Minimum Age - 8.8 days (rounded) -Maximum Age - 30 days -Annual Interest Rate - 750% -Maximum Stake Subsidy - 1,000 HYP -Recommended Block Size - 1,000-4,000 HYP
The timing specs we already have are quite close to the ones of HYP. My personal opinion about HYP - it is a ponzi scheme: in a year the total supply would be ~13 times bigger than now with no real value behind this figure. You may consider my opinion as FUD in regard of HYP or as it has to be considered, i.e. as a critical view - it is up to you. The maximum reward per block is a good thing and I was going to discuss it as well, I just waited until we finish with other parameters. The main purpose of having the maximum reward per block is not the inflation control but the network security enforcement: this maximum keeps people from merging their inputs into a single one and running a wallet once per staking period.
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 04, 2014, 02:18:23 PM |
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The maximum reward per block is a good thing and I was going to discuss it as well, I just waited until we finish with other parameters. The main purpose of having the maximum reward per block is not the inflation control but the network security enforcement: this maximum keeps people from merging their inputs into a single one and running a wallet once per staking period.
Layman term please.
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 04, 2014, 02:20:53 PM |
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i've been on the road couple of weeks, what is new ? thank you
The original dev left. So we are taking over the project with a new direction.
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bee7
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November 04, 2014, 04:18:58 PM Last edit: November 05, 2014, 04:08:59 AM by bee7 |
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The maximum reward per block is a good thing and I was going to discuss it as well, I just waited until we finish with other parameters. The main purpose of having the maximum reward per block is not the inflation control but the network security enforcement: this maximum keeps people from merging their inputs into a single one and running a wallet once per staking period.
Layman term please. The txout is an output of any transaction that credits its destination address with some value. The PoS works this way: The wallet iterates through all available txout's that are not spent. For each txout it calculates its Proof-of-Stake hash value that is a function of several data elements associated with this particular txout. If the calculated hash value divided by that txout's coinage is less than the current PoS difficulty then the so-called PoS kernel is found, so a wallet constructs a PoS block using this txout and submits a block to the network. When the txout is spent its coin age is reset to zero be it a PoS block generation transaction or regular spent transaction. Thus, the less unspent input transactions you have, the less blocks you could create. Provided that the unspent txout becomes eligible for PoS block creation not sooner than it gets 7 days old (the period we are going to select) and the target time is 1 minute, we need to have at least 10080 txouts to sustain the target time of 1 minute at the base PoS difficulty. The difficulty is a measurement of a network security, the more txouts eligible for staking a network has the more is networks security and the more complicated it be to make an attack on a network. If every of the initial 170 holders would merge its coins into a single txout then the network would generate 170 blocks in a week period. Thus, to ensure that a network creates at least 10080 blocks in a week period we need to force holders to keep their stakes split enough. The only possible way to achieve this is to limit the maximum reward per PoS block. Hence the maximum reward per block should corresponds to the txout value of ~100 coins (1000000/10080). To make some reserve for difficulty to decrease we need to lower that value even more. I would propose to set this limit to the value that corresponds to the 50 coins input at its age of 30 days (the maximum coin age after which the probability to find a block is not growing anymore). To 'bootstrap' the network initially, so the holders would not need to split their stakes manually, the coins distribution script that I have to develop will generate the series of transactions per holder address.
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lukey25
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November 04, 2014, 05:55:38 PM |
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interesting I thought it was dead and sold a lot of assets tooo cheap but now I will keep watching this
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juicejoyce
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November 05, 2014, 01:03:08 AM |
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interesting I thought it was dead and sold a lot of assets tooo cheap but now I will keep watching this so many typically examples. dev gone and new dev team took over, and die slowly.
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ltcrstrbrt
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November 05, 2014, 02:03:35 AM |
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interesting I thought it was dead and sold a lot of assets tooo cheap but now I will keep watching this so many typically examples. dev gone and new dev team took over, and die slowly. or not , anyway i lost a lot whit rsu, hope that i'll recover somehow my losses
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juicejoyce
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November 05, 2014, 03:52:45 AM |
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interesting I thought it was dead and sold a lot of assets tooo cheap but now I will keep watching this so many typically examples. dev gone and new dev team took over, and die slowly. or not , anyway i lost a lot whit rsu, hope that i'll recover somehow my losses anyway, hope this new dev team will do something real, ps: I have still some rsu.
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geyu
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November 05, 2014, 04:04:28 AM |
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wait for the new dev team. We must become active again.
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bluedeep
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November 05, 2014, 04:35:30 AM |
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wait for the new dev team. We must become active again.
I agree
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 05, 2014, 05:12:23 AM |
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The maximum reward per block is a good thing and I was going to discuss it as well, I just waited until we finish with other parameters. The main purpose of having the maximum reward per block is not the inflation control but the network security enforcement: this maximum keeps people from merging their inputs into a single one and running a wallet once per staking period.
Layman term please. The txout is an output of any transaction that credits its destination address with some value. The PoS works this way: The wallet iterates through all available txout's that are not spent. For each txout it calculates its Proof-of-Stake hash value that is a function of several data elements associated with this particular txout. If the calculated hash value divided by that txout's coinage is less than the current PoS difficulty then the so-called PoS kernel is found, so a wallet constructs a PoS block using this txout and submits a block to the network. When the txout is spent its coin age is reset to zero be it a PoS block generation transaction or regular spent transaction. Thus, the less unspent input transactions you have, the less blocks you could create. Provided that the unspent txout becomes eligible for PoS block creation not sooner than it gets 7 days old (the period we are going to select) and the target time is 1 minute, we need to have at least 10080 txouts to sustain the target time of 1 minute at the base PoS difficulty. The difficulty is a measurement of a network security, the more txouts eligible for staking a network has the more is networks security and the more complicated it be to make an attack on a network. If every of the initial 170 holders would merge its coins into a single txout then the network would generate 170 blocks in a week period. Thus, to ensure that a network creates at least 10080 blocks in a week period we need to force holders to keep their stakes split enough. The only possible way to achieve this is to limit the maximum reward per PoS block. Hence the maximum reward per block should corresponds to the txout value of ~100 coins (1000000/10080). To make some reserve for difficulty to decrease we need to lower that value even more. I would propose to set this limit to the value that corresponds to the 50 coins input at its age of 30 days (the maximum coin age after which the probability to find a block is not growing anymore). To 'bootstrap' the network initially, so the holders would not need to split their stakes manually, the coins distribution script that I have to develop will generate the series of transactions per holder address. Okay finaly i understood something. Since this is the initial parameters, we can test your proposal out. Shouldnt be a problem imo.
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 05, 2014, 05:21:44 AM |
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wait for the new dev team. We must become active again.
I agree Please be active to ensure success. Success of coin depends on its community totally.
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DarkhorseofNxt
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November 05, 2014, 05:24:54 AM |
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For starters, we will only use the characters "RS" as the logo. In time, when we have a working wallet and gain more speed and interests of community, we can do the new logo and gui development. Lets start with the basics. I think people wants to see something before anyone want to participate, which is natural. What you guys think?
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