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[MikeMike]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

[skip60]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

next release will be zero knowledge with ring signatures

right now, it is on public test

[skip60]

i advise everyone to read about this thread, link below

http://shadowtalk.org/topic/270/rich-list-11-21-2014

very nice points of view

The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through.

Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market.

However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have?

I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects...

Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO

haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc

[MikeMike]

i advise everyone to read about this thread, link below

http://shadowtalk.org/topic/270/rich-list-11-21-2014

very nice points of view

The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through.

Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market.

However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have?

I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects...

Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO

haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc

Thanks Skip,

IF anyone has some coins for sale PM me.

[skip60]

is shadow chat almost done?

"Private Encrypted Messaging"  has been released long time ago

ZK implementation with ring signatures is about to be released

and then shadowchat update (voice, video and file support) will follow

[skip60]

i advise everyone to read about this thread, link below

http://shadowtalk.org/topic/270/rich-list-11-21-2014

very nice points of view

The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through.

Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market.

However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have?

I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects...

Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO

haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc

Thanks Skip,

IF anyone has some coins for sale PM me.

we dont sell through PM, u can buy from bittrex

[MikeMike]

i advise everyone to read about this thread, link below

http://shadowtalk.org/topic/270/rich-list-11-21-2014

very nice points of view

The distribution on this coin isn't the best, I'm not to concerned about that as I believe that the tech behind this coin will carry it through.

Actually having such an unfair distribution is good for short term price increases. If they have strong hands, and they dont sell its ok. It keeps coins off the market.

However, it can deter investors. And of course what kind of long term prospects can an investor have?

I think it would be better for the coin if the top holders dumped some coins now say 10-15% just so more people can join the shadow community with a large enough stake to care about helping with the community projects...

Large holders are the only thing holding back mass adoption of sdc IMHO

haha good idea....someone is looking for cheap sdc

Thanks Skip,

IF anyone has some coins for sale PM me.

we dont sell through PM, u can buy from bittrex

Of Course!
 

[LongAndShort]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now)

right now, zk-snarks release is on public test

Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their snark scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+  fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts  implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!)  As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state.

Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks

[MikeMike]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now)

right now, zk-snarks release is on public test

Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+  fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts  implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!)  As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state.

Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks

Thanks,... in every sense of saying it Sarcastically!
 

I appreciate the primer into the tech and now will be looking for the "Dummies" version.
Wish I had some time but this is going to be a tough 2-weeks.

MM

[LongAndShort]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now)

right now, zk-snarks release is on public test

Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+  fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts  implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!)  As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state.

Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks

Thanks,... in every sense of saying it Sarcastically!
 

I appreciate the primer into the tech and now will be looking for the "Dummies" version.
Wish I had some time but this is going to be a tough 2-weeks.

MM

Basically, when polished, things will be closer to instant, more compact, more secure and with less limitations then anything, currently on the market, in development, in this nich. It is also not restricted by its anonymity, there are ways to work with regulation if someone needs it.

[MikeMike]

I picked up some SDC on the dips    but don't have the time to
follow the thread as I would like to.

Could someone inform me of what the next releases will be
and if there is any time line for them the Dev's mentioned.

Much Thanks!

Sincerely,

MM

next release will be zk-snarks (zero knowledge with ring signatures for now)

right now, zk-snarks release is on public test

Sorry mate but this is the fith time i've tried saying this to you lol Its not snarks! Its a zero knowledge proof with a ring signature commitment scheme. Rings are slightly, bloat like. But nothing more then a cryptonote and it can also be pruned later Untill the snark guys, specifically, the killian, micali theory, when it materialises or ryno, techno put in the hard work to realise it first. The solution/refinement to their scheme to remove trusted setup. Currently snarks is a massive compiler with 896mb+  fixed system parameters, a trusted setup. Zerocash use a merkle tree over coin commitment "cm" and zerocoin unusable! ( Zeroverts  implementation still not working properly https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846471.msg9628078#msg9628078 Coins going missing!) (Write about that jdebunt!)  As far as i can tell zerovert is pinocchio coin, zerocoin variant using ZK proofs, 344B/spend, but retains other problems. Also spend time grows linearly with number of coins nor will it handle variable denomination, in its current state.

Snarks is nothing short of very very very very very cool. You can search for "pouring" if you can wrap your head around that, you will start to understand just how epic it is. Once the snark or Shadow guys figure out how to set it up without trust it will basically change the way we do a lot of things! And i mean A lot. I MEAN A LOT (mind the dumb and dumber pun)... Depending on what route is taken the chain..ugh.. hard to explain, could be extremely compact only having the coins not spent yet in it. Highly compact wallets. You could even transact off the chain (without having to download it... Once people wrap their head around zk proofs then we will start opening the minds for snarks

Thanks,... in every sense of saying it Sarcastically!
 

I appreciate the primer into the tech and now will be looking for the "Dummies" version.
Wish I had some time but this is going to be a tough 2-weeks.

MM

Basically, when polished, things will be closer to instant, more compact, more secure and with less limitations then anything, currently on the market, in development, in this nich. It is also not restricted by its anonymity, there are ways to work with regulation if someone needs it.

When I have some time after I do some research I will send you a PM to discuss if OK...

[00Smurf]

29   ShadowCash ShadowCash   $ 796,971   $ 0.123617   6,447,100 SDC *   $ 2,912   18.62 %   

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shadowcoin/

This is what a successful coin is all about, If you build it they will come. Slowly but surely our price moves upward, Which is a reflection of the quality of the coin, its community, its tech, and its dev's.

[Soepkip]

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[rustynailer]

Some things can be explained better with a picture.

[MikeMike]

Some things can be explained better with a picture.

Well Done!
 

[Soepkip]

Some things can be explained better with a picture.

That's pretty awesome haha

[robboman]

29   ShadowCash ShadowCash   $ 796,971   $ 0.123617   6,447,100 SDC *   $ 2,912   18.62 %   

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shadowcoin/

This is what a successful coin is all about, If you build it they will come. Slowly but surely our price moves upward, Which is a reflection of the quality of the coin, its community, its tech, and its dev's.

I agree slow but steady growth is a good sign!

[rustynailer]

That's pretty awesome haha

yeah I was trying to think of a way to sneak a rocket pic in here.

[drAGon925]

something for the kids here 

 One day, overnight, the world turned shadow. Just about everything turned shadow from the sky and ocean and mountains to the trees and animals and people and from the tallest skyscrapers to the tiniest ant. People sat around looking at one another wondering if they were dreaming. But nobody woke up and things stayed shadow...

...to be continued

 

[Schild_]

29   ShadowCash ShadowCash   $ 796,971   $ 0.123617   6,447,100 SDC *   $ 2,912   18.62 %   

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shadowcoin/

This is what a successful coin is all about, If you build it they will come. Slowly but surely our price moves upward, Which is a reflection of the quality of the coin, its community, its tech, and its dev's.

I absolutely agree with you. Actually, the best brands usually don't make so much PR. They are recognized for the quality of their work and the quality of the social circle adopting it. People are gonna come... no need to worry.