[SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA

[Automatic Monkey]

How do you bank?

This coin might want to consider losing the "Anonymous" imagery.

1. It's old, and cliche.

2. It's now associated with rioting and economic destruction.

3. The people who would actually use it for illegal transactions don't want to see this. All they want is privacy. Anything that attracts attention, makes a political statement, invites controversy isn't fun for someone who really does risk going to prison or worse for his activities. Under the radar is the way they go.

So you think anonymous is going to attract more heat then illegal transactions used by terrorists and drug cartels.  

I encourage you to look deeper into what a zero knowledge proof can do for business and the way we interact in a world of potential scammers in general. And possibly try broadening your scope instead of assigning it "ilegal" status because the transactions are anonymous.

Anonymous idea is, at its core, activism.

Activism consists of efforts to promote, impede, or direct social, political, economic, or environmental change, or stasis

It attracts unnecessary heat. The people who are in such businesses already know what zk and fully anonymous transactions can do for them, no need to belabor the point. And I agree that such use will be necessary for the success of the coin, at least for a while. The financial safety aspects of it are very desirable, but how does an image associated with hacking represent financial safety?

And after that, it would be nice to walk into Walmart one day and have the cashier ask me "Debit, credit, or Shadowcash?" and that's not going to happen if the public face of the coin is some jackoff in a Guy Fawkes mask who likes breaking store windows.

[UNO_owner]

It's a couple of stupid Fawkes pictures with the SDC logo pasted into a BCT thread.  The things people worry about never ceases to amaze me.

[LongAndShort]

How do you bank?

This coin might want to consider losing the "Anonymous" imagery.

1. It's old, and cliche.

2. It's now associated with rioting and economic destruction.

3. The people who would actually use it for illegal transactions don't want to see this. All they want is privacy. Anything that attracts attention, makes a political statement, invites controversy isn't fun for someone who really does risk going to prison or worse for his activities. Under the radar is the way they go.

So you think anonymous is going to attract more heat then illegal transactions used by terrorists and drug cartels.  

I encourage you to look deeper into what a zero knowledge proof can do for business and the way we interact in a world of potential scammers in general. And possibly try broadening your scope instead of assigning it "ilegal" status because the transactions are anonymous.

Anonymous idea is, at its core, activism.

Activism consists of efforts to promote, impede, or direct social, political, economic, or environmental change, or stasis

It attracts unnecessary heat. The people who are in such businesses already know what zk and fully anonymous transactions can do for them, no need to belabor the point. And I agree that such use will be necessary for the success of the coin, at least for a while. The financial safety aspects of it are very desirable, but how does an image associated with hacking represent financial safety?

And after that, it would be nice to walk into Walmart one day and have the cashier ask me "Debit, credit, or Shadowcash?" and that's not going to happen if the public face of the coin is some jackoff in a Guy Fawkes mask who likes breaking store windows.

Bitcoin is used for terroisim, drugs, guns, hacked paypal and credit card sales. so is the dollar, euro, ect ect but you see websites and stores accepting it. If its useful tech people will use it. I'm not willing to compromise freedom for convenience in this case and agree that anonymous imaginary will severely impact what may become a dark market tool, initially, anyways. We don't know whats down the track and right now people understand anonymous. Bitcoin is cutting the path to mainstream not us, we just need to let it do that and continue building the tech. Basically the consumer and community will take it where it wants to. If that is away from anonymous imagery then so be it. There is 100 things i can think of that will get in Shadows way and anonymous imagery is not one of them.

[LongAndShort]

~troll spam

Are all people in Sacramento this childish?
You are even on troll lists, nothing to be proud about, not in this context.
http://trolls.thesupernet.org/2014/09/benthach-is-impolite-troll.html

[LongAndShort]

~troll spam

Are all people in Sacramento this childish?
You are even on troll lists, nothing to be proud about, not in this context.
http://trolls.thesupernet.org/2014/09/benthach-is-impolite-troll.html

i am proud to have the attention from the scammers
yes, these scammers have a lists for me

Where is your proof, unless you have credible proof its just troll and will be delted..ok

[LemonAndFries]

~troll spam

Are all people in Sacramento this childish?
You are even on troll lists, nothing to be proud about, not in this context.
http://trolls.thesupernet.org/2014/09/benthach-is-impolite-troll.html

i am proud to have the attention from the scammers
yes, these scammers have a lists for me

Where is your proof, unless you have credible proof its just troll and will be delted..ok

i know and the scam will go on

I don't understand the point of FUD, trying to get cheaper coins is all I can guess   

[fearcoka]

come join the shadow

Why bother messing with anonymous...
Why bother wasting your time...
Why bother projecting new technology as vapor ware when you have no proof.
Why bother just being a douchebag?

[dadon]

Why bother messing with anonymous...
Why bother wasting your time...
Why bother projecting new technology as vapor ware when you have no proof.
Why bother just being a douchebag?

why bother?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745352.msg9598489#msg9598489

All i have to say is you are a sad individual your parents must be devastated there child grew into you, if my children ever act like some of the people including yourself  on this forum im going to punch them in the face so you can only imagine what i would do to you if i could put my hands thru the screen.

[rustynailer]

it is all this shittalk that has kept me from buying more SDC...

once shadow groupies start acting like a community of people who mean business, i will come to invest again, but for now im gonna stay out of this playground.

if you guys have a true beef with eachother take it off the thread and deal with it like adults, you guys act like a bunch of teenage kids.

Do you think it is better if we dont address any of this crap from benthach?

[leigh2k14]

I'm actually looking forward for the whitepaper, it will put some of these trolls to bed, benthach seems to be the worst, he has a real hardon for Shadow

[ffmad]

please don't feed the troll, benthach is a known useless troll

Don't answer any of his posts, just put him on your ignore list

A troll is only alive if you give him attention 


http://trolls.thesupernet.org/2014/09/benthach-is-impolite-troll.html

[child_harold]

There is a massive apparatus within the United States government that with complete secrecy has been building this enormous structure that has only one goal, and that is to destroy privacy and anonymity, not just in the United States, but around the world.

- Glenn Greenwald

[godzirra]

Please exercise the ignore option on the sidebar.
That guy was trolling on the Darkcoin thread as well. And so I can't see what he posts. Works like a charm. All until you guys keep quoting him and engaging him in essentially useless conversation. It's not adding any value.

Stop feeding trolls.

[skip60]

any news about the public announcement of Ryno ?

sdcdev is writing up a public announcement for later today or tommorow.

05:50:52@SDCDev
just this last bug then we can start planning the rollout for mainnet  
05:52:31@SDCDev
I have a dinner tonight but afterwards I'll finish the paper

[child_harold]

You can safely IGNORE volyova.
He runs with Benthach and went to the same finishing school as EmilioMann. I expect their similarly damaged friend BTCWriter will be along shortly.  

[drAGon925]

any news about the public announcement of Ryno ?

sdcdev is writing up a public announcement for later today or tommorow.

05:50:52@SDCDev
just this last bug then we can start planning the rollout for mainnet  
05:52:31@SDCDev
I have a dinner tonight but afterwards I'll finish the paper

Hello skip60,

my opinion, paper may be finished, but release on same day as mainnet of zk.
I hope in November, but I can wait, I'm not a day trader : )

Regards!

[skip60]

any news about the public announcement of Ryno ?

sdcdev is writing up a public announcement for later today or tommorow.

05:50:52@SDCDev
just this last bug then we can start planning the rollout for mainnet  
05:52:31@SDCDev
I have a dinner tonight but afterwards I'll finish the paper

Hello skip60,

my opinion, paper may be finished, but release on same day as mainnet of zk.
I hope in November, but I can wait, I'm not a day trader : )

Regards!

hopefully november

[child_harold]

hopefully november

I think he meant movember.

[coinzcoinzcoinz]

Solved my problem of unconfirmed transaction by removing lite mode and going into full mode. After downloading the blockchain all was fine. Thanks!

[MoonDusk]

Solved my problem of unconfirmed transaction by removing lite mode and going into full mode. After downloading the blockchain all was fine. Thanks!

I'm curious how that issue came about, as far as I'm aware it's not affected anyone else. Glad you got that sorted.