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May 07, 2012, 10:18:42 AM
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I'm interesting in investing. I saw your post over on the bitcoin Reddit recommending your fund.

I'm not actually even remotely suspicious (not like I'm gonna invest more BTC with anyone than I can afford to lose anyway), but just for the sake of due dilligence/curiosity...

(1) DeaDTerra, how many investors do you have? And at what rate have they been joining up?

(2) Would any Gamma investors be interesting in testifying that they're received timely payments and good service? I haven't seen many (actually, any) posts to the effect of "hey, this works great!" in this thread.
1) Currently I have a total of 39 Investors, they have been joining in about 5-8 new investors each week. Mostly people invest small sums like 10-20 BTC to then increase it the following week when they get their profits paid out Smiley
2) This is probably due to that only 10 out of these 39 investors have chosen to get their profits paid out, the rest has chosen reinvestment Smiley
I would appreciate and be very grateful if when you get your profits paid out, post here and also rate my OTC account. That way new investors can see that the fund is run in a good way.
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May 07, 2012, 11:24:42 AM
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Hello!
Another week is about to start and Gamma Bitcoin Fund has grown to the size of 3600 Bitcoins, this is great Cheesy
This week, I will be focusing on optimizing and getting out bots up and ready, the arbitrage is still not performing as good as we want,so the developer and I will be looking to optimize it before we add any substantial volume. I will also be working on a couple new startup projects with Jonathan, so hopefully we can get some shares from those startups and help get them off the ground Smiley
I would also like to note that I have changed the way I take the share prices on GLBSE, I now use the 24 hour average to get a more accurate reading.

I would also like to get the investors opinion on me taking a personal loan from the fund. This loan would be to purchase a motherboard+cpu+ Ram for my new mining rig. I have already purchased a chassi, a PSU and two 5850s, but due to that the Motherboard and CPU I purchased second hand is not working. I need to purchase new once, so I would like to suggest a 50 BTC loan for me to get a 2x5850 rig up and running Smiley
I would purchase
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1902197/msi-z77a-g43-atx
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5304228/a-data-1gb-1x1024mb-cl9-1333mhz
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5310006/intel-pentium-g630-dual-core-2-7ghz
946+96+596= 1638 Kronor
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244 USD
Which correlates to 49 BTC, so lets say a even 50 BTC to include trading fees etc.
The 2 5850s will pull 700 mhash and I have another rig doing 200 mhash to a total of 900 mhash.
900 mhash 24/7 is 0.6 BTC per day at the current rate
So I would be able to pay back in 83 days Smiley

Please speak your mind of this loan and also suggest a % interest for this loan.

//DeaDTerra
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May 07, 2012, 12:08:21 PM
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I would suggest that you just mine for the fund for X days (maybe 100-120 days or so?) and treat it as a mining contract investment...

https://www.coinlend.org <-- automated lending at various exchanges.
https://www.bitfinex.com <-- Trade BTC for other currencies and vice versa.
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May 07, 2012, 12:20:37 PM
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I would suggest that you just mine for the fund for X days (maybe 100-120 days or so?) and treat it as a mining contract investment...
Okay this is one suggestion Smiley, so I mine with my 900 mhash for 100-120 days and after that independent on the movement of difficulty etc It's considered paid back. The problem with this is that it will be effected by the difficulty increase :8 which seem to be up atm.
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May 07, 2012, 01:41:20 PM
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I would suggest that you just mine for the fund for X days (maybe 100-120 days or so?) and treat it as a mining contract investment...
Okay this is one suggestion Smiley, so I mine with my 900 mhash for 100-120 days and after that independent on the movement of difficulty etc It's considered paid back. The problem with this is that it will be effected by the difficulty increase :8 which seem to be up atm.

I believe there are more profitable opportunities for investment these days.  Mining margins are pretty thin.

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May 07, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
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I would suggest that you just mine for the fund for X days (maybe 100-120 days or so?) and treat it as a mining contract investment...
Okay this is one suggestion Smiley, so I mine with my 900 mhash for 100-120 days and after that independent on the movement of difficulty etc It's considered paid back. The problem with this is that it will be effected by the difficulty increase :8 which seem to be up atm.

I believe there are more profitable opportunities for investment these days.  Mining margins are pretty thin.
Okay Smiley I do have the capital to fund it myself, but I just wanted to check if it were something the investors were interested in funding.
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May 07, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
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Hello DeaDTerra,

I too believe they are more profitable investments than mining (or the loan will be very expensive for you Cheesy)

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May 07, 2012, 02:01:26 PM
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Hello DeaDTerra,

I too believe they are more profitable investments than mining (or the loan will be very expensive for you Cheesy)

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Okay Smiley seems like I will just use my own capital.
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May 07, 2012, 05:53:58 PM
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1) Currently I have a total of 39 Investors, they have been joining in about 5-8 new investors each week. Mostly people invest small sums like 10-20 BTC to then increase it the following week when they get their profits paid out Smiley

Yeah, but I'm one of those investors, and I'm like, 100 times more awesome than any generic Gamma investor. Wink

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May 07, 2012, 06:08:12 PM
Last edit: May 07, 2012, 07:11:31 PM by DiabloD3
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Hello!
Another week is about to start and Gamma Bitcoin Fund has grown to the size of 3600 Bitcoins, this is great Cheesy
This week, I will be focusing on optimizing and getting out bots up and ready, the arbitrage is still not performing as good as we want,so the developer and I will be looking to optimize it before we add any substantial volume. I will also be working on a couple new startup projects with Jonathan, so hopefully we can get some shares from those startups and help get them off the ground Smiley
I would also like to note that I have changed the way I take the share prices on GLBSE, I now use the 24 hour average to get a more accurate reading.

I would also like to get the investors opinion on me taking a personal loan from the fund. This loan would be to purchase a motherboard+cpu+ Ram for my new mining rig. I have already purchased a chassi, a PSU and two 5850s, but due to that the Motherboard and CPU I purchased second hand is not working. I need to purchase new once, so I would like to suggest a 50 BTC loan for me to get a 2x5850 rig up and running Smiley
I would purchase
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1902197/msi-z77a-g43-atx
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5304228/a-data-1gb-1x1024mb-cl9-1333mhz
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5310006/intel-pentium-g630-dual-core-2-7ghz
946+96+596= 1638 Kronor
or
244 USD
Which correlates to 49 BTC, so lets say a even 50 BTC to include trading fees etc.
The 2 5850s will pull 700 mhash and I have another rig doing 200 mhash to a total of 900 mhash.
900 mhash 24/7 is 0.6 BTC per day at the current rate
So I would be able to pay back in 83 days Smiley

Please speak your mind of this loan and also suggest a % interest for this loan.

//DeaDTerra


Honestly, I wouldn't invest in GPUs. Go buy yourself a dummy box to run Bitcoin on (if you dont already have a 24/7 box) and buy one of the quad Spartan 6 boards, ZTEX has the 1.15y (~$1300), Enterpoint has one coming out real soon, and BTCFPGA has their Modminer (~$1,000).

I'd authorize a loan for that. You'd have about 800 mhash 24/7. 5% interest would probably be enough to cover it.

Edit: Actually, on second thought, why not just start your own mining company? 50% of output after electricity costs for life of hardware bond. I'd go for that.

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May 07, 2012, 07:30:58 PM
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Day 2 and we're at 2%… Nice going, hope you can keep it up ^_^

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May 07, 2012, 07:32:02 PM
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Hello!
Another week is about to start and Gamma Bitcoin Fund has grown to the size of 3600 Bitcoins, this is great Cheesy
This week, I will be focusing on optimizing and getting out bots up and ready, the arbitrage is still not performing as good as we want,so the developer and I will be looking to optimize it before we add any substantial volume. I will also be working on a couple new startup projects with Jonathan, so hopefully we can get some shares from those startups and help get them off the ground Smiley
I would also like to note that I have changed the way I take the share prices on GLBSE, I now use the 24 hour average to get a more accurate reading.

I would also like to get the investors opinion on me taking a personal loan from the fund. This loan would be to purchase a motherboard+cpu+ Ram for my new mining rig. I have already purchased a chassi, a PSU and two 5850s, but due to that the Motherboard and CPU I purchased second hand is not working. I need to purchase new once, so I would like to suggest a 50 BTC loan for me to get a 2x5850 rig up and running Smiley
I would purchase
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1902197/msi-z77a-g43-atx
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5304228/a-data-1gb-1x1024mb-cl9-1333mhz
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5310006/intel-pentium-g630-dual-core-2-7ghz
946+96+596= 1638 Kronor
or
244 USD
Which correlates to 49 BTC, so lets say a even 50 BTC to include trading fees etc.
The 2 5850s will pull 700 mhash and I have another rig doing 200 mhash to a total of 900 mhash.
900 mhash 24/7 is 0.6 BTC per day at the current rate
So I would be able to pay back in 83 days Smiley

Please speak your mind of this loan and also suggest a % interest for this loan.

//DeaDTerra


Honestly, I wouldn't invest in GPUs. Go buy yourself a dummy box to run Bitcoin on (if you dont already have a 24/7 box) and buy one of the quad Spartan 6 boards, ZTEX has the 1.15y (~$1300), Enterpoint has one coming out real soon, and BTCFPGA has their Modminer (~$1,000).

I'd authorize a loan for that. You'd have about 800 mhash 24/7. 5% interest would probably be enough to cover it.

Edit: Actually, on second thought, why not just start your own mining company? 50% of output after electricity costs for life of hardware bond. I'd go for that.
I would like to but I don't have the experience or knowledge about hardware to run a mining company Sad
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May 07, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
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Day 2 and we're at 2%… Nice going, hope you can keep it up ^_^
Thank you I will do my best Smiley
It's mostly the increase in share price from the new assets on GLBSE.
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May 07, 2012, 07:39:47 PM
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I would like to but I don't have the experience or knowledge about hardware to run a mining company Sad
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Well, then you should hope I go ahead with DMC. Remember to vote in the new poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78919.0

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May 07, 2012, 07:54:42 PM
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I would like to but I don't have the experience or knowledge about hardware to run a mining company Sad
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Well, then you should hope I go ahead with DMC. Remember to vote in the new poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78919.0
Sorry I think that venture is to big and to late to be profitable in the Bitcoin sense. It might be profitable in USD in the long run but never in BTC, you won't get the mining operating fast enough to make it profitable before the 25BTC cut and then it goes downwards. It might be profitable in the USD sense as you will have a major hash power once the IPO is out but I think it's to big to be profitable in BTC, as you are fighting a clock against the block reward downsizing :8
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May 07, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
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I would like to but I don't have the experience or knowledge about hardware to run a mining company Sad
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Well, then you should hope I go ahead with DMC. Remember to vote in the new poll: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78919.0
Sorry I think that venture is to big and to late to be profitable in the Bitcoin sense. It might be profitable in USD in the long run but never in BTC, you won't get the mining operating fast enough to make it profitable before the 25BTC cut and then it goes downwards. It might be profitable in the USD sense as you will have a major hash power once the IPO is out but I think it's to big to be profitable in BTC, as you are fighting a clock against the block reward downsizing :8
//DeaDTerra


Yeah, but what about the secondary income stream of selling power back to the power company? A lot of Silicon Valley VC types think I should just skip mining altogether and just go for power generation, but I won't go for that, theres too much market for more large scale mining farms.

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May 10, 2012, 06:19:46 AM
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Sorry for the delay of yesterdays update, I am swamped. So I will have to skip one days of updates instead you will get a two days update tonight. It should not effect profits.
Sorry
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May 10, 2012, 05:02:09 PM
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Do I see 8% there? Really? You're forgiven for not posting an update yesterday Cheesy

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May 10, 2012, 05:27:31 PM
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Do I see 8% there? Really? You're forgiven for not posting an update yesterday Cheesy
it's a quick calculation once I got home. I will do a proper one and recheck before I go to bed Smiley but it look like it.
It's mostly due as I got some really good prices on the GigaMining shares Cheesy
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May 11, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
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I still have 200 BTC in availability for next week Smiley
Those that has already booked remember to send in your BTC before monday, also if you have lost your deposit address contact me. If you can't make the deposit then also contact me so someone else can take your slot.
//DeaDTerra
 
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