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September 04, 2016, 12:19:46 AM
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#nosleepgang ...anyone else?
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September 04, 2016, 12:25:07 AM
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omg they want to have stock monero much than us.All the dump about this , what a shame if you sell your monero.Becouse , btc it is not safe and , there is so much wallet higher than 100000 btc . İn bitcoin there is a lot of speculation. Miner have a stock in china , exchange site hacked all of time ; for example bitfinex ...
I know there is so much reason dump to  monero , but all of them about btc wealthy , and they don't want to lose money.
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September 04, 2016, 12:36:13 AM
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omg they want to have stock monero much than us.All the dump about this , what a shame if you sell your monero.Becouse , btc it is not safe and , there is so much wallet higher than 100000 btc . İn bitcoin there is a lot of speculation. Miner have a stock in china , exchange site hacked all of time ; for example bitfinex ...
I know there is so much reason dump to  monero , but all of them about btc wealthy , and they don't want to lose money.


China is wake up to this rise now...we see what happens. Will they eat XMR fast as noodle?
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September 04, 2016, 12:40:37 AM
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still holding my XMR wait price 0.03BTC for selling Cheesy
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September 04, 2016, 01:20:51 AM
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This is XMR floor  - NEW floor!  Cool
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September 04, 2016, 02:04:09 AM
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This is XMR floor  - NEW floor!  Cool

Building this space elevator one floor at a time. Yesterday's ceiling becomes tomorrow's floor.

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September 04, 2016, 02:35:58 AM
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Its like yesterday was just a dream - we are back where we were literally 24 hours ago.


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September 04, 2016, 02:40:33 AM
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Its like yesterday was just a dream - we are back where we were literally 24 hours ago.



I know right. I can only hope to wake up tomorrow happier than I did this morning. Lol.

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September 04, 2016, 02:48:38 AM
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Good night XMR friends - we pray together eachday to make world better place for all - and Russia will friend with all USA - no matter theUSA media - We love our USA brother and sister - good for all peace out!
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September 04, 2016, 02:51:56 AM
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Good night XMR friends - we pray together eachday to make world better place for all - and Russia will friend with all USA - no matter theUSA media - We love our USA brother and sister - good for all peace out!

Back at you from the USA, thanks, well done, bravo! Smiley

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September 04, 2016, 03:07:05 AM
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i daren't go back through the pages since the last time i was here -- things were getting heated with dafur and slapper, so i hate  to think what a serious correction added to the mix has resulted in.

Calm down peeps, its the same coin with the same sound fundamentals and the same bright future, adoption is going to bring lot s of new people and it will be bumpy at times but its the same coin it was in 2014 and it was four weeks back.

Or as Adam would say...



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September 04, 2016, 03:58:02 AM
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I've had 2 people inquire how to get XMR (therefore BTC).  Not interested when I put BTC in front of them early 2013.  Not interested when I put XMR in front of them 2014.  I'm used to it. Same disinterest when I made the case for gold <$300.    Suddenly FOMO on BTC2 strikes, and its a good idea.  Takes some longer to grasp the potential than others.

Its all fun and games until someone makes a fortune  Wink

Humans are diverging into two groups, along the Morlok vs Eloi tropes symbolized in The Time Machine.

We are the Neophiles, which Robert Anton Wilson described having as the following basic characteristics:
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    The ability to adapt rapidly to extreme change.
    A distaste or downright loathing of tradition, repetition, and routine.
    A tendency to become bored quickly with old things.
    A desire, bordering on obsession in some cases, to experience novelty.
    A corresponding and related desire to create novelty by creating or achieving something and/or by stirring social or other forms of unrest.
    A complete objection to or distrust of commitment.

A neophile is distinct from a revolutionary in that anyone might become a revolutionary if pushed far enough by the reigning authorities or social norms, whereas neophiles are revolutionaries by nature. Their intellectual abhorrence of tradition and repetition usually bemoans a deeper emotional need for constant novelty and change. The meaning of neophile approaches and is not mutually exclusive to the term visionary, but differs in that a neophile actively seeks first-hand experience of novelty rather than merely pontificating about it.

The opposite of a neophile is a neophobe; a person with an aversion to novelty and change. Wilson observes that neophobes tend to regard neophiles, especially extreme ones, with fear and contempt, and to brand them with titles such as "witch," "satanist," "heretic," etc. He also speculates in his Prometheus Rising series of books that the industrial revolution and related enlightenment represents one of the first periods of history in which neophiles were a dominant force in society.

Neophiles accelerate change because they like it that way.

The word "neophilia" has particular significance in Internet and hacker culture. The New Hacker's Dictionary gave the following definition to neophilia -

    The trait of being excited and pleased by novelty. Common among most hackers, SF fans, and members of several other connected leading-edge subcultures, including the pro-technology 'Whole Earth' wing of the ecology movement, space activists, many members of Mensa, and the Discordian/neo-pagan underground (see geek). All these groups overlap heavily and (where evidence is available) seem to share characteristic hacker tropisms for science fiction, music.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neophile

They are the Neophobes.  They hate new things.  Thinking objectively about abstract ideas makes their brains sore with cognitive dissonance.

We Morlocks carry the burden of intellect, production, and advancing civilization beyond the stars.

The Eloi live in blissful ignorance, but they are our natural prey, and so they perceive us as terrible monsters.


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September 04, 2016, 04:29:06 AM
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A 1111BTC wall on the sell side at .0193....someone really wants to keep the price down.

Bullish.

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September 04, 2016, 04:30:26 AM
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When the price drops, it often looks like big whale dumps. Then it gets pushed right back up in a more organic manner.
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September 04, 2016, 05:01:52 AM
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As I have said a couple times there is a breed of miner associated with Monero who is not particularly interested in the Monero Network itself. They are interested in using as many computers as possible to make as many Monero as possible as fast as possible and then to sell the majority of those also as quickly as possible.

Monero has always had a certain percentage of this breed of miner. The only thing different now is there is more incentive for these sweethearts to help "secure our Network".
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September 04, 2016, 05:18:02 AM
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As I have said a couple times there is a breed of miner associated with Monero who is not particularly interested in the Monero Network itself. They are interested in using as many computers as possible to make as many Monero as possible as fast as possible and then to sell the majority of those also as quickly as possible.

Monero has always had a certain percentage of this breed of miner. The only thing different now is there is more incentive for these sweethearts to help "secure our Network".

Current network rate 31.32MH/s.  Highest I can recall seeing.  Good times.
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September 04, 2016, 05:21:59 AM
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As I have said a couple times there is a breed of miner associated with Monero who is not particularly interested in the Monero Network itself. They are interested in using as many computers as possible to make as many Monero as possible as fast as possible and then to sell the majority of those also as quickly as possible.

Monero has always had a certain percentage of this breed of miner. The only thing different now is there is more incentive for these sweethearts to help "secure our Network".

Sounds like a description of the majority of miners of all coins -- in it for the money, no.

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September 04, 2016, 05:22:07 AM
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As I have said a couple times there is a breed of miner associated with Monero who is not particularly interested in the Monero Network itself. They are interested in using as many computers as possible to make as many Monero as possible as fast as possible and then to sell the majority of those also as quickly as possible.

Monero has always had a certain percentage of this breed of miner. The only thing different now is there is more incentive for these sweethearts to help "secure our Network".

Remember when litecoin was "the botnet coin"? In the pre asic days. It was like the bad sibling. Litecoin was scandalous. I havn't thought about that in a long time. Cheesy

Sounds like a description of the majority of miners of all coins -- in it for the money, no.

Hes talking about botnets.

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September 04, 2016, 05:24:10 AM
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there is a breed of miner associated with Monero who is not particularly interested in the Monero Network itself.

FIFY.

Miners of just about every coin, if not every single coin, are bottom feeders, don't give a shit about the network, and want the most money (and I love them for it; no hate here). This was proven in Ethereum where you saw miners jumping between ETH and ETC, in both directions, at the first profitable opportunity. They couldn't care less which coin or network they were supporting.

The Monero difficulty is hitting new highs, making the network more secure and valuable. Virtuous cycle.

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People should secure their computers. Failing that, every bot node that is helping to secure the Monero network is one less that could be used to attack it.
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September 04, 2016, 05:27:32 AM
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#nosleepgang ...anyone else?

Not sleeping particularly well, which for me is very unusual.

Fitful slumber disturbed by anxious dreams of multi-BTC winnings and losings at the Margin Poker table.

Waking to to check the market, take a leak, and nap again.

Adding wealth to the portfolio at an unprecedented, nearly embarrassing rate, only to feel self-aware numbness and meh about booking yet MOAR HYOOG GAINS.  

The ennui of watching previously unbelievable sums surge on and off the XMR books.

Perhaps it's just all the wine and declining melatonin.   Cheesy


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whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy." 
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"Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect."  Adam Back 2014
Buy and sell XMR near you
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Is Dash a scam?
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