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Author Topic: [ANN][GEMZ] GetGems - Social Messaging App That Pays - Live on Android, iOS, Web  (Read 597136 times)
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December 15, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
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That's cool, didn't see that coming, so gems users will be able to message users from telegram and third party apps built on top of it. That's pretty legit man, any chance gems users to be able to message whatsapp users?

Can someone explain the solution mentioned in the quote regarding the gap between the iOs and Android?

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Peled went on to say, “The pace of Android development for GEMS was being questioned on the forums and we felt there was a gap that needed to be addressed. Momentum is important and we had to find a solution.”

Moving the GEMS Android app forward using Telegram is the best way for the Gems team to really move forward with the initiative of bringing secure messaging with a cryptocurrency on several platforms.
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December 15, 2014, 07:20:27 PM
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Is in December Gemz will be able to trade on bter?
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December 15, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
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That's cool, didn't see that coming, so gems users will be able to message users from telegram and third party apps built on top of it. That's pretty legit man, any chance gems users to be able to message whatsapp users?

Can someone explain the solution mentioned in the quote regarding the gap between the iOs and Android?

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Peled went on to say, “The pace of Android development for GEMS was being questioned on the forums and we felt there was a gap that needed to be addressed. Momentum is important and we had to find a solution.”

Moving the GEMS Android app forward using Telegram is the best way for the Gems team to really move forward with the initiative of bringing secure messaging with a cryptocurrency on several platforms.

Initial plan was iOS basic release December 30, 2014 and Android basic release June 30, 2015.
by integrating Gems with Telegram open source code our new target is to release both versions on December 30.
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December 15, 2014, 07:27:37 PM
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GEMS TO JOIN 50M TELEGRAM USERS


GEMS (www.getgems.org)— The Gems development team, lead by Daniel Peled has announced a major move to help Gems reach a critical mass of users from the start.
“Secure Open Source code developed by Telegram helps us get to the market faster with all the messaging features, plus a critical mass of users with iOS and Android apps” said Peled.

Gems users will be able to message users who are currently using Telegram or third party messaging apps built on Telegram which offers security such as secret chats (self destruct options) using end-to-end encryption and large Group Chats (up to 200) with sharing of media and even document files.

Gems development progress will have the added advantage of focusing all efforts towards the more important and innovative feature of Gems; the built-in Bitcoin/Gems wallet including the unique Airdrop referral program, and the Attention Rewards Economy model using unsolicited messages. Link here: http://bit.ly/1GngtCJ

Peled went on to say, “The pace of Android development for GEMS was being questioned on the forums and we felt there was a gap that needed to be addressed. Momentum is important and we had to find a solution.”

"Moving the GEMS Android app forward using Telegram is the best way for the GEMS team to help us all take back Social Media. All Android users should be very pleased."

Koinify.com to purchase Gemz here:  https://koinify.com/#/project/GEMZ. For more information about GEMS, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, a Skype chat channel is available 24/7 by visiting the bottom of www.getgems.org and clicking on the Skype logo.
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December 15, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
Last edit: December 15, 2014, 07:47:12 PM by reRaise
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Initial plan was iOS basic release December 30, 2014 and Android basic release June 30, 2015.
by integrating Gems with Telegram open source code our new target is to release both versions on December 30.

wow you guys nailed it, props for taking some the valuable feedback from the community into consideration to release both versions at the same time providing a satisfying airdrop.
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December 15, 2014, 07:32:32 PM
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LOL

Gems pulls a bait and switch on people the last minute.   You 'tards thought you were all paying for new code but instead Peled never had anything and pulls a bait and switch the very last minute and is forking telegram now.  Once again you people let greed get the better of you and you again fall to a scammer.   Bait and switch is a scam and illegal in most countries.


Forking telegram was something already planned by Sendchat and other projects and practically any development team can do it and don't need a 3000 BTC IPO for it (not even 100 BTC - it is something anyone can do in the proverbial basement).

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December 15, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
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Announcement

GEMS TO JOIN 50M TELEGRAM USERS


GEMS (www.getgems.org)— The Gems development team, lead by Daniel Peled has announced a major move to help Gems reach a critical mass of users from the start.
“Secure Open Source code developed by Telegram helps us get to the market faster with all the messaging features, plus a critical mass of users with iOS and Android apps” said Peled.

Gems users will be able to message users who are currently using Telegram or third party messaging apps built on Telegram which offers security such as secret chats (self destruct options) using end-to-end encryption and large Group Chats (up to 200) with sharing of media and even document files.

Gems development progress will have the added advantage of focusing all efforts towards the more important and innovative feature of Gems; the built-in Bitcoin/Gems wallet including the unique Airdrop referral program, and the Attention Rewards Economy model using unsolicited messages. Link here: http://bit.ly/1GngtCJ

Peled went on to say, “The pace of Android development for GEMS was being questioned on the forums and we felt there was a gap that needed to be addressed. Momentum is important and we had to find a solution.”

"Moving the GEMS Android app forward using Telegram is the best way for the GEMS team to help us all take back Social Media. All Android users should be very pleased."

Koinify.com to purchase Gemz here:  https://koinify.com/#/project/GEMZ. For more information about GEMS, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, a Skype chat channel is available 24/7 by visiting the bottom of www.getgems.org and clicking on the Skype logo.

Does it mean that the Airdrop will begin sooner as well ?
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December 15, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
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GEMS TO JOIN 50M TELEGRAM USERS


Does it mean that the Airdrop will begin sooner as well ?

Yes.

The original plan was to develop the messaging platform from the functioning alpha. It became obvious that the teams resources would be better spent on developing the crypto/advertising/rewards part of the network.
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December 15, 2014, 07:52:54 PM
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Does it mean that the Airdrop will begin sooner as well ?

Yes.

The original plan was to develop the messaging platform from the functioning alpha. It became obvious that the teams resources would be better spent on developing the crypto/advertising/rewards part of the network.

Awesome, i think an update in the OP and other Gems related social media regarding the release date for both operating systems would be cool.
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December 15, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
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Anyone who knows enough about this change to Telegram willing to share the pros and cons?

With the design of the app chanage now?

SENDIT is already going to be on Telegram, have we lost something by doing this?

Does that mean messages aren't on the blockchain anymore? Not using Countryparty anymore?

I'm concerned about the truth of the FUD a above? have we paid way over the top for a fork of another app?




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December 15, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
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Anyone who knows enough about this change to Telegram willing to share the pros and cons?

With the design of the app chanage now?

SENDIT is already going to be on Telegram, have we lost something by doing this?

Does that mean messages aren't on the blockchain anymore? Not using Countryparty anymore?

under both models messages aren't intended to be done on the blockchain. Countryparty is still be used just as in the original plan.
We are writing a document explaining pros and cons.
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December 15, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
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good move! Momentum is everything . The economic model is the revolution here, not the app.

Telgram messenger with attention economy http://r.getgems.org/m/TuJXXBal9o
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December 15, 2014, 08:32:17 PM
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Anyone who knows enough about this change to Telegram willing to share the pros and cons?

With the design of the app chanage now?

SENDIT is already going to be on Telegram, have we lost something by doing this?

Does that mean messages aren't on the blockchain anymore? Not using Countryparty anymore?

I'm concerned about the truth of the FUD a above? have we paid way over the top for a fork of another app?







At least Send Chat was honest about their telegram forking.  Gems pulled a bait and switch which is deceit.  Most people at the end of the day would rather invest into the more transparent development team than the one hiding secrets and possibly conducting illegal activity as per Gems.

There ain't no Revolution like a NEMolution.  The only solution is Bitcoin's dissolution! NEM!
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December 15, 2014, 08:33:37 PM
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Happy that I have hit the ignore button on the two sendchat trolls here   Smiley

Telgram messenger with attention economy http://r.getgems.org/m/TuJXXBal9o
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December 15, 2014, 08:34:52 PM
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Happy that I have hit the ignore button on the two sendchat trolls here   Smiley


I'm not a troll, I'm asking questions.

This change to Telegram is making me feel I just invested in Litecoin rather than Bitcoin. Anyone want to jump in and explain to me I'm worrying over nothing please do.

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December 15, 2014, 08:43:26 PM
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It's just an update, an extra feature which is pretty cool on the already innovative app. Gems own features will stay as it is and it will stay to be an app build on top of Bitcoin empowered by Counterparty. Telegram intergration just makes Gems even more versatile so even better than it is. Also besides that, this update makes it possible for both iOS and Android to be released at the same date, because Android was planned for a later date, by doing this the airdrop will be available for both operating systems at the same time. The code is build from scratch, adding extra features on top of it like this one is great. Your trust rating and post history shows you are wandering in this forum just to talk nonsense. You should just be ignored.
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December 15, 2014, 08:49:41 PM
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When it's built on top of Telegram

It's not build on top of telegram when he says that Countryparty is still be used just as in the original plan.
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December 15, 2014, 08:59:14 PM
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It's just an update, an extra feature which is pretty cool on the already innovative app. Gems own features will stay as it is and it will stay an app build on top of Bitcoin empowered by Counterparty. Telegram intergration just makes it even more versatile so even better than it is. Also besides that i makes it possible for both iOS and Android to be released at the same date, because Android was planned for a later date, by doing this the airdrop will be available for both operating systems at the same time why are you jealous. The code is build from scratch, adding extra features on top of it like this one is great. Your trust rating and post history shows you are wandering in this forum just to talk nonsense. You should just be ignored.

When it's built on top of Telegram

It's not build on top of telegram when he says that Countryparty is still be used just as in the original plan.

Please explain how Gems users will be able to message telegram users if it's not built on top of Telegram. Enlighten me.

It's build on top of Bitcoin empowered by Counterparty. So you are saying that it's not build on top of Bitcoin anymore?
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December 15, 2014, 09:11:25 PM
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@ Taunshew

It's just an update, an extra feature which is pretty cool on the already innovative app. Gems own features will stay as it is and it will stay an app build on top of Bitcoin empowered by Counterparty. Telegram intergration just makes it even more versatile so even better than it is. Also besides that i makes it possible for both iOS and Android to be released at the same date, because Android was planned for a later date, by doing this the airdrop will be available for both operating systems at the same time why are you jealous. The code is build from scratch, adding extra features on top of it like this one is great. Your trust rating and post history shows you are wandering in this forum just to talk nonsense. You should just be ignored.

When it's built on top of Telegram

It's not build on top of telegram when he says that Countryparty is still be used just as in the original plan.

Please explain how Gems users will be able to message telegram users if it's not built on top of Telegram. Enlighten me.

It's build on top of Bitcoin empowered by Counterparty. So you are saying that it's not build on top of Bitcoin anymore?

Sure GEMZ the TOKEN is probably built on counterparty (if they don't go on and change that last minute). How about GEMS the messaging app - how can GEMS the messaging app chat with Telegram user's if it's not built on top of Telegram.



what is the benefit from a "from the scratch" app in comparison to an increased user base and sustaining momentum? There are hundreds new messaging apps comming out all the time. The innovation here is an economic one. I was arguing with the quite conservative fellow economic researchers in my institute today and could eventually even convince them (Economist researcher myself). Market forces will drive profits of companies (fb ect.) down. The only reason for the huge profits of existing companies is a technical barrier that was overcome with this concept and technology. So, who the fuck gives a shit on the tech behind a messaging app?

Telgram messenger with attention economy http://r.getgems.org/m/TuJXXBal9o
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December 15, 2014, 09:14:18 PM
Last edit: December 15, 2014, 09:33:42 PM by peled1986
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Development Update

On behalf of the development team, I'd like to provide an update on our development plan to address feedbacks around Android release schedule as well as concerns around bootstrapping the initial user base -- which is the biggest challenge for any new social network.

While working on our iOS proof-of-concept version for Gems, we have kept evaluating different options for messaging infrastructure, including homegrown, open source and even commercial solutions. After much heated internal debate and evaluation (Surespot, Textsecure, Telegram), we ultimately decided to leverage Telegram's infrastructure given its open source nature, high level of encrption and relatively mature client app on iOS and Android that we can build on top of.  Most importantly, it allows Gems users to seamlessly interact with existing Telegram 50 million active users from day one.

With the messaging infrastructure resolved, the dev team can now focus completely on delivering our top priorities and Gem's key innovations - including:
- Built-in crypto wallet (which is going to be the first counterparty mobile wallet on the market)
- Reward and Airdrop system to reward users
- Anti-spam filters
- A powerful advertising platform

These building blocks togther form the attention based reward economy that Gems aims to build, and help users take back the social network. It also allow us to support both iOS and Android platform in a much more aggressive timeline.

Appreciate everyone's feedbacks so far, we've been listening closely and I hope you're excited as we are about the plan and solution to move forward.
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