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May 25, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
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I think random listing is fair, though we would be happy to pay for top spot Wink

Maybe a veteran icon could be used to show sites older than 1 year ?
Who would be the oldest bitcoin game I wonder ? If their still operating now I bet they have amassed a sizeable amount of btc Cheesy

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May 25, 2013, 07:15:33 PM
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These faces, while quaint and easily accessible, are confusing considering that not everyone expresses the same emotion towards certain aspects.

Agreed.  I've never even tried to understand what the various faces mean on the list.  They all look pretty much the same to me.  A small 'scam' icon (maybe just a box with 'scam' written in it, say) is much more obvious than a face sticking its tongue out, or wearing shades, or whatever the scam icon currently is.

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May 26, 2013, 04:45:46 AM
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These faces, while quaint and easily accessible, are confusing considering that not everyone expresses the same emotion towards certain aspects.

Agreed.  I've never even tried to understand what the various faces mean on the list.  They all look pretty much the same to me.  A small 'scam' icon (maybe just a box with 'scam' written in it, say) is much more obvious than a face sticking its tongue out, or wearing shades, or whatever the scam icon currently is.

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May 26, 2013, 05:01:02 AM
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http://coinchat.org/j:moobot

Run by 001sonkit. Social dice game.
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May 26, 2013, 05:03:44 AM
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http://coinchat.org/j:moobot

Run by 001sonkit. Social dice game.

Saw this earlier. Really good unique idea. Hopefully takes off.
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May 26, 2013, 04:15:37 PM
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I think random listing is fair, though we would be happy to pay for top spot Wink

Maybe a veteran icon could be used to show sites older than 1 year ?
Who would be the oldest bitcoin game I wonder ? If their still operating now I bet they have amassed a sizeable amount of btc Cheesy

As far as I know it goes like:

1. ~Games from the hidden wiki~
2. StrikeSapphire
3. Casinobit
4. S. Dice

Not 100% sure though.

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May 27, 2013, 05:00:13 AM
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Hi All, Im updating the spreadsheet as I go, will post an updated list tonight.

I also accept Zaih's endorsement of a site (re provably fair, helpful admins etc etc), Zaih seems to be a regular here now and is always actively engaging the new casinos.

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May 27, 2013, 06:18:22 AM
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Hi All, Im updating the spreadsheet as I go, will post an updated list tonight.

I also accept Zaih's endorsement of a site (re provably fair, helpful admins etc etc), Zaih seems to be a regular here now and is always actively engaging the new casinos.

Cheers mem  Grin
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May 27, 2013, 04:40:12 PM
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I do not follow how PrimeDice is provably fair if a random server hash is present in the sha512?

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May 27, 2013, 04:58:47 PM
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I do not follow how PrimeDice is provably fair if a random server hash is present in the sha512?

http://primedice.com/verification.php
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May 27, 2013, 05:23:43 PM
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I do not follow how PrimeDice is provably fair if a random server hash is present in the sha512?

http://primedice.com/verification.php

Well I have read it about 10 times and I still do not understand, enlighten me.

The client seed is generated randomly client-side and the server seed is generated randomly server side, the secret is static, generated once per day.

So if I generate the client seed 9363438 and submit a bet while the secret is 396d4ba70ffc05b28f636438cd7f02479d6aca22 the server seed can provide a source of entropy thus rendering the whole process useless, e.g. I can:
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do
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$server=randomHash();
}
while(round(hexdec(substr(hash('sha512',$seed.$server.$client), 0, 8))/42949672.95,2)>$bet)

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May 27, 2013, 05:49:09 PM
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Decided to test some pending sites to help out a bit, results :

Royal Bitcoin :
Got my payout extremely quickly, seems legit.

Bit777
Nice site, played blackjack a bit, won, withdrew, and got my payout.

Bet on Eurovision
Bet on this under the Eurovision obviously, multiple ones, bet on Denmark, payout was decently quick, and had good contact with owner.

Bitcoinslots
Played a bit, won, withdrew, got my withdrawal. Deposits were extremely quickly, however it isn't provably fair.

Peerbet
Not getting deposit as of currently, still waiting.
EDIT : Got deposit, will now test.
EDIT 2 : Tested, fairly smooth site, often the server would overload, got payout very quickly.
SatoshiMines
Deposited, deposit was quick, was able to cash out once my deposit got an confirmation, cashout was received <1 minute.
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May 28, 2013, 01:44:17 AM
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Mem how about you remove Primedice from provably fair? The client seed isn't being randomized client side, the whole "provably fairness" is flawed, here have a look

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May 28, 2013, 02:02:45 AM
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Mem how about you remove Primedice from provably fair? The client seed isn't being randomized client side, the whole "provably fairness" is flawed, here have a look

Hey, as we mentioned we will be correcting this issue today most likely. Also we currently aren't listed as provably fair on mem's list at this moment so hopefully we can be added afterwards. At the moment it is possible to change your client seed, just not as simple as it should be. Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention, am forwarding all your feedback to our developer. Would be happy to let you take a look afterwards.  Smiley

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May 28, 2013, 03:40:50 AM
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Mem how about you remove Primedice from provably fair? The client seed isn't being randomized client side, the whole "provably fairness" is flawed, here have a look

updated on the spreadsheet.

Mem how about you remove Primedice from provably fair? The client seed isn't being randomized client side, the whole "provably fairness" is flawed, here have a look

Hey, as we mentioned we will be correcting this issue today most likely. Also we currently aren't listed as provably fair on mem's list at this moment so hopefully we can be added afterwards. At the moment it is possible to change your client seed, just not as simple as it should be. Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention, am forwarding all your feedback to our developer. Would be happy to let you take a look afterwards.  Smiley

great Smiley

spreadsheet has just been updated, last night was crazy hectic but tonight I should get some time to upload the latest version.
PrimeDice, if you fix up your provably fair issue, let me know please Smiley

These faces, while quaint and easily accessible, are confusing considering that not everyone expresses the same emotion towards certain aspects.

Agreed.  I've never even tried to understand what the various faces mean on the list.  They all look pretty much the same to me.  A small 'scam' icon (maybe just a box with 'scam' written in it, say) is much more obvious than a face sticking its tongue out, or wearing shades, or whatever the scam icon currently is.

- LEGEND -

Good Legend:

  • Grin = considered mathmatically honest, showing you the hash used to generate each game. Ive played them all enough to be a believer.
       
  • Cool = PVP, Player v Player (Poker sunglasses)
  • Kiss = Responsive and or Helpful Admins (from my personal experience or several good referrals from forum members)

Bad Legend:

  • Huh = Questions raised regarding fairness/randomness thats waiting on admin response
  • Angry = SCAM
  • Cry = payout issue/s - removed if/when payout is resolved
  • Lips sealed = Non responsive admin

its not that hard to read a legend is it guys ?

Using image links will greatly increase my posts size, Im concerned that Im already approaching the post character limit, does anyone know what it is ?

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May 28, 2013, 03:56:18 AM
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its not that hard to read a legend is it guys ?

My problem with it is that they mostly look very similar.  I have to look carefully to see what kind of expression the face has, and then scroll to the legend to find out what it means.  That seems like too much effort to me.

I just tried posting a big message.  It was rejected with:

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The message exceeds the maximum allowed length (64000 characters).

Edit: you're currently at a little under 46000 characters.  A lot of those characters are spent changing colour:

Code:
[td][b][color=black]OFFLINE[/color][/b][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][s][color=green]฿?[/color][/s][/td]
[td][s][color=green]฿?[/color][/s][/td]
[td][s][b][color=blue]...[/color][/b][/s]
.[/td]
[td][s][color=green]฿?[/color][/s][/td]

(and note that 'color=black' makes text invisible for those of us using the dark forum theme unless you set the glow color as well).

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May 28, 2013, 10:42:52 AM
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Hi mem, our roulette btc jackpot is currently active if you/ others are looking for an easy win Smiley

Also I agree with dooglus, the smileys are very hard on my eyes. I have to squint at the screen to decipher them, with a dark background its are even to see.
If you do start using images, could you add an icon to indicate progressive jackpots ?  Grin

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May 28, 2013, 01:13:24 PM
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well the public has spoken, my icons suck  Cry Cry Cry

So yes, I shall look into alternative icon sets, I should be able to reduce the colour tags as dooglus pointed out which will increase room for the \[img tags.

I'll do a few test updates before doing the final one shortly.

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May 28, 2013, 01:15:18 PM
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I personally liked them.

Then again, a good image set which has a little bit better relevance could be a good idea.
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May 28, 2013, 01:54:25 PM
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http://coinchat.org/j:moobot

Run by 001sonkit. Social dice game.

Saw this earlier. Really good unique idea. Hopefully takes off.

I like that beggars/scammers are banned.  One of the more frustrating aspects of a lot of BTC sites is how much flat-out stealing, swindling and spamming are allowed despite the fact they are a hugely negative influence on player experience.
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