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May 24, 2013, 01:51:59 AM
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.

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May 24, 2013, 02:05:58 AM
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Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back.  In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Hi dooglus,

Those were the rules for Number 1. It's now Number 2. Maybe I should stick to one thread in the future. I'm locking the first one. Sorry about the confusion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855 is the new thread.

Yes. I should just stick to one thread and update OP to make readers read the latest version. I'm guessing a few more rule changes will happen in the next couple of games, due to either player requests or "fixes" to make it as provably fair as possible.

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May 24, 2013, 03:10:19 AM
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

No but it does "ever so slightly" increase the effort required to pull a con. A forum post is 2 minutes of effort at the best made at no cost to the operator.
Those that couldnt see Pirate coming despite me and everyone warning them were greedy fools thatw were bound to loose their bitcoin to one con artist or another.

Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back.  In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Jesus titty fucking christ, nice catch Dooglus.

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.



Thats it Zaih, its "Proof of Work", while the difficulty is set low its better than nothing Smiley

Thanks, very nice analogy as well Cheesy
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May 24, 2013, 03:13:22 AM
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

No but it does "ever so slightly" increase the effort required to pull a con. A forum post is 2 minutes of effort at the best made at no cost to the operator.
Those that couldnt see Pirate coming despite me and everyone warning them were greedy fools thatw were bound to loose their bitcoin to one con artist or another.

Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back.  In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Jesus titty fucking christ, nice catch Dooglus.

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.



Thats it Zaih, its "Proof of Work", while the difficulty is set low its better than nothing Smiley

Thanks, very nice analogy as well Cheesy

Our website definitely is "Proof of Work" Tongue, its sucks i I know but there is no question plenty of effort is spent on it Smiley

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May 24, 2013, 03:14:46 AM
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I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

No but it does "ever so slightly" increase the effort required to pull a con. A forum post is 2 minutes of effort at the best made at no cost to the operator.
Those that couldnt see Pirate coming despite me and everyone warning them were greedy fools thatw were bound to loose their bitcoin to one con artist or another.

Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.

Where's the fine print?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063 doesn't mention anything about 20% being held back.  In fact it explicitly says this, which implies no more than 5% is held back:

About Dabs' Raffle:

[...] 95% of tickets sales go to the winner.

Jesus titty fucking christ, nice catch Dooglus.

I personally dislike forum run lotteries due to the inherent risk, but Im happy to list it as Pending and monitor it while its run (which I try to do with all lottery sites and event betting sites).

Is there really any extra risk when a game doesn't have a website?

SatoshiDice could easily operate without a website.  All they need is the blockchain and somewhere to publish their addresses.  A forum thread could work for that.  I don't think a web presence really reduces risk at all.  Pirate had a website.  So did BitcoinMax.

If the operator decides to run off with people's bets, having a website isn't going to stop him.

It's an interesting point and I guess you could say it simply reduces exposure, nothing more, nothing less.

It also inherently shows that the owner has dedicated more time to the project. If a gambling operation has a nice website which has obviously taken a lot of time to set up, they will be less likely to disregard that effort/time by 'running off' with money.

Time to post a thread on here: 20 mins? Sometimes more if you went into deeper detail like Dab did.
Time to make a nicely designed website: Hours

Obviously some websites can take small amounts of time/effort, but it's pretty obvious when it's not that case.



Thats it Zaih, its "Proof of Work", while the difficulty is set low its better than nothing Smiley

Thanks, very nice analogy as well Cheesy

Our website definitely is "Proof of Work" Tongue, its sucks i I know but there is no question plenty of effort is spent on it Smiley

Yeh design definitely isn't everything. Content is important as well - Something Satoshi Roulette covers very well!
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May 24, 2013, 03:19:42 AM
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Yeh design definitely isn't everything. Content is important as well - Something Satoshi Roulette covers very well!

Awww Shucks Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Its little compliments like this (and the profits) that make it all worth while for codemonkey and I Cheesy

mem I see you have already set our new house edge for rdice and jdice Smiley
We reduced the house edge so that jackpots would build quicker, seems ot be working great.

Love the new list, It could be a bit neater but glad to see it active again.

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May 24, 2013, 03:43:50 AM
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Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2
URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes
Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes
Games:
Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.
Admin Email:
Admin Profile: Dabs
Min Cash In: 0.01
Min Cash Out: 0.01
Min Bet: 0.01
Max Bet: 1000.00
Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead

People are getting confused, and it's my fault.
Dabs Lotto Number 1 was indeed 95% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063
Dabs Lotto Number 2 is up to 100% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855

The URL and Thread information in the above specifically states topic 212855 which is Number 2. You can check the quote of my post by mem.

In fact, due to only having 1 player in Number 1, I gave out 100%, effectively refunding him in full for being a good sport.

I am hoping more people play this second round.

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May 24, 2013, 03:51:04 AM
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Site Name: Dabs Lotto Number 2
URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855
Player vs Player (yes/no): Yes
Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes
Games:
Edge%: Winner Receives up to 100%. Please read the fine print. 20% goes to next game.
Admin Email:
Admin Profile: Dabs
Min Cash In: 0.01
Min Cash Out: 0.01
Min Bet: 0.01
Max Bet: 1000.00
Notes: Afterlife Payment Guaranteed = Get the Prize Even if I'm Dead

People are getting confused, and it's my fault.
Dabs Lotto Number 1 was indeed 95% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063
Dabs Lotto Number 2 is up to 100% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855

The URL and Thread information in the above specifically states topic 212855 which is Number 2. You can check the quote of my post by mem.

In fact, due to only having 1 player in Number 1, I gave out 100%, effectively refunding him in full for being a good sport.

I am hoping more people play this second round.

Hi Dabs Cheesy

I might enter my casino in round #2 for fun. Headed over to your thread now.

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May 24, 2013, 05:58:36 AM
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Bitspin.co was recently launched. Would appreciate your consideration for the list!

Site Name: Bitspin
URL: https://bitspin.co
Player vs Player (yes/no): No
Provably Fair (yes/no): Yes
Games: Roulette
Edge%: 2.7%
Admin Email: admin@bitspin.co
Admin Profile: mises
Min Cash In: 0.002
Min Cash Out: no min
Min Bet: 0.002
Max Bet: 0.512

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May 24, 2013, 06:53:00 AM
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People are getting confused, and it's my fault.
Dabs Lotto Number 1 was indeed 95% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063
Dabs Lotto Number 2 is up to 100% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855

Probably better to use a single thread.  People subscribe to threads and get notified of new posts.  I'd want to be able to subscribe to the 'Dabs lotto' thread, and not have to keep searching for new ones to subscribe to.

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May 24, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
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People are getting confused, and it's my fault.
Dabs Lotto Number 1 was indeed 95% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202063
Dabs Lotto Number 2 is up to 100% https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212855

Probably better to use a single thread.  People subscribe to threads and get notified of new posts.  I'd want to be able to subscribe to the 'Dabs lotto' thread, and not have to keep searching for new ones to subscribe to.

Okie dokie. My bad. Will continue using #2 and just update OP to 3 next week. #1 can just fade away since I've locked it already and pointed it to #2.

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May 24, 2013, 07:56:07 AM
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Site Name: BlockEnd
URL: http://blockend.net
Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=184300.0
Player vs Player (yes/no): yes
Provably Fair (yes/no): yes
Games: Lottery style
Edge%: not sure what the percentage is but it is small... there must be 50+ entries, and they must all lose while there are only 16 options, meaning there would have to be at least 3 entries to all except the winning digit
Admin Email: admin@blockend.net
Admin Profile: bitspill <- this account I'm on now
Min Cash In: N/A
Min Cash Out: N/A
Min Bet: N/A
Max Bet: N/A
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I think you got legend mixed up slightly on that one, mem. PrimeDice isn't PvP and is provably fair, so I think it was meant to be the Grin face lol

Also I can confirm that BitBattle.me is provably fair & legit. They're currently pending, but sometimes you ask for extra sources, so thought I'd point out that they're definitely worthy of the list.
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May 25, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
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These faces, while quaint and easily accessible, are confusing considering that not everyone expresses the same emotion towards certain aspects. (How would I know that a kissy face means anything other than the admin is a prostitute?)

I suggest having icons and using the site logos if possible to make reading the list a bit less...involved.

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May 25, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
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Satoshi RouletteApprovedGrin Kiss N/AN/ADice
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Email: support@satoshiroulette.com
Min and Max bet appear to be dynamic

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These faces, while quaint and easily accessible, are confusing considering that not everyone expresses the same emotion towards certain aspects. (How would I know that a kissy face means anything other than the admin is a prostitute?)



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May 25, 2013, 02:00:35 PM
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mem, I noticed you have listed us only as a roulette game. We actually have more than 50 games.
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May 25, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
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Wouldn't it be fair to list the website in the order they were created? There are new n00bs writing up dice scripts every day now and it would guarantee a safe gambling environment.

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May 25, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
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Wouldn't it be fair to list the website in the order they were created? There are new n00bs writing up dice scripts every day now and it would guarantee a safe gambling environment.

CasinoBit would be more or less only above 5 or 6 different sites out of a lot of them.

Not sure how you can talk Tongue But still, a good idea.
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May 25, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
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I'm missing satoshi-karoshi in that list  Tongue

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May 25, 2013, 02:56:44 PM
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Wouldn't it be fair to list the website in the order they were created? There are new n00bs writing up dice scripts every day now and it would guarantee a safe gambling environment.

CasinoBit would be more or less only above 5 or 6 different sites out of a lot of them.

Not sure how you can talk Tongue But still, a good idea.

Well actually we would be at the very top, even above such veterans as S.Dice, Seals with Clubs, bitzino, most likely the very first (citation needed). Of course I can also settle for 5 or 6 above the bottom since this would be only counting the time since we've remodeled and reopened, I'm not too greedy.

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