[ANN] SuperNET NXT asset 12071612744977229797, SUPERNET KMD assetchain in summer

[McDoxy1]

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day.

Could someone ELI5, please?

[BTCMILLIONAIRE]

so let me get this straight if i buy supernet unitys I get dividends from ALL assets on supernet or just certain ones ....im still confused 

you will get dividends of all assets released related to supernet, AND you will also get dividends from all the affiliates that supernet owns portions of.
so once they are all up and running JUST FOR OWNING SUPERNET you will get dividends from
Privatebet
InstantDEX
NXTprivacy
Atomic
NeoDICE
NXTcoinsco
cryptocard
Pangea
FreeMarket
Omnigames
etc...

plus you will get paid asset dividends and the assets that you got from dividends will then later PAY dividends

GOOD INFO....so to clear it up I should just buy unity and wait for dividends in my nxt wallet and don't need to buy other assets...assets within assets etc....

SuperNET is all you need. All the assets within assets... are built into SuperNET itself. Only if you want to concentrate investment into a specific area, do you need to delve into all the different assets/coins

James

just to be clear so I just buy supernet unitys and wait for dividends in my nxt wallet... how? when? will i get paid dividends lets say for example if i buy 100 unitys how would that work how much am i looking at for current market thanks in advance

[RichardT]

This thing should be worth at least 100$ 

Not until it is fully operational, or at least not until the market realizes that it is just a matter of time before it is fully operational.

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day. Realistically, to achieve this there would need to be 25,000+ users (~15 cents per day per user), which is a largish number, but certainly within reach.

I know it is just a matter of time, but I do have inside knowledge, so I just have to be patient for the rest of the world to find out.

James

I agree, I think that is very reachable probably even by 2016, if not sooner. But I also tend to think that one unity could be worth thousands in 5 years time. 

My reason is there are just so many different moving parts within this project and the people behind each part apear very intelligent and highly motivated. And this is just the beginning.

[RichardT]

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day.

Could someone ELI5, please?

Correct me if wrong:

50:1 ratio is in terms of total market cap to dividends per year.

There is a total of 816061 SuperNET assets.

816061 * $2 = $1,632,122 in dividends a year

$1,632,122 / 365 days = $4,471.57 in dividends per day

[Cassius]

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day.

Could someone ELI5, please?

Correct me if wrong:

50:1 ratio is in terms of total market cap to dividends per year.

There is a total of 816061 SuperNET assets.

816061 * $2 = $1,632,122 in dividends a year

$1,632,122 / 365 days = $4,471.57 in dividends per day

Is 50:1 p/e realistic? I know it would be in the real world, but crypto people have different expectations. I just have no idea for how to evaluate this in crypto terms.

[RichardT]

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day.

Could someone ELI5, please?

Correct me if wrong:

50:1 ratio is in terms of total market cap to dividends per year.

There is a total of 816061 SuperNET assets.

816061 * $2 = $1,632,122 in dividends a year

$1,632,122 / 365 days = $4,471.57 in dividends per day

Is 50:1 p/e realistic? I know it would be in the real world, but crypto people have different expectations. I just have no idea for how to evaluate this in crypto terms.

Are you saying that crypto people tend to have higher expectations in terms of profit so we would need a higher earning per share to reach a price of $100 per share?

I guess it makes sense and this could very well be the case. It's just crazy that pretty much everything going on with SuperNET has never been done before so it's all just a guess. Makes it pretty exciting.

[Cassius]

Yes, I mean that expectation of returns is an order of magnitude greater in crypto, so I doubt the same ratios apply here. Not sure what a reasonable estimate would be, though.

[TwinWinNerD]

Though $100 price would require around $2 in dividends per year at a 50:1 ratio, which is about $4700 of dividends per day.

Could someone ELI5, please?

Correct me if wrong:

50:1 ratio is in terms of total market cap to dividends per year.

There is a total of 816061 SuperNET assets.

816061 * $2 = $1,632,122 in dividends a year

$1,632,122 / 365 days = $4,471.57 in dividends per day

Is 50:1 p/e realistic? I know it would be in the real world, but crypto people have different expectations. I just have no idea for how to evaluate this in crypto terms.

Are you saying that crypto people tend to have higher expectations in terms of profit so we would need a higher earning per share to reach a price of $100 per share?

I guess it makes sense and this could very well be the case. It's just crazy that pretty much everything going on with SuperNET has never been done before so it's all just a guess. Makes it pretty exciting.

People in crypto expect a higher return, but not neccessarily higher dividends. As long as the overall return (dividends+price growth) is enough, everyone is happy. That said, the return that the market imples by pricing assets in a certain way suggests that the needed return is much higher than normal stock environment (~8-12%).

[jl777]

Yes, I mean that expectation of returns is an order of magnitude greater in crypto, so I doubt the same ratios apply here. Not sure what a reasonable estimate would be, though.

There is a premium for high growth tech stocks due to the fact that growth is non-linear. We see PE in triple digits. Now Price Dividend ratios are used for companies that have dividends, typically not your high growth tech stocks, which might not even have earnings yet.

During high growth, Price Sales and the rate of revenue growth is estimated as to what sort of growth path it is on
Then earnings are generated and Price Earnings ratios are used, during the early high growth days triple digits, dropping to double digits, even single digits for low to negative growth industries.

Then there are the companies whose value is based on their dividends (remember earnings are accumulated inside the company and not 100% dividended out, especially due to taxes) and the Price Dividend ratio is typically double or more of the price Sales ratio

Money is money and an investment will be evaluated based on rational ROI projections. Granted during the early years a lower ratio will be in place due to the risk factor of crypto in general, but compensating that is the growth factor. In these scenarios of thousands of USD per day of dividends (not just earnings), the growth rate will have to be astronomical as we are starting from a baseline of 0.

If anything I would be surprised at a dividend ratio of 50 as that is more a floor, during the exponential growth years it could easily be 10x that as the revenues would be a small fraction of what it will be. That is what I meant when I said "when the market realizes", so if when we are doing $500 per day of dividends, but have 500 people in slack and 50 projects in the pipeline, it could get a 500:1 dividend ratio just based on people's expectations.

I think google during the early years had "crazy" high PE ratios and the people who didnt understand the coming growth of the internet thought they were overpaying.

James

[jl777]

so let me get this straight if i buy supernet unitys I get dividends from ALL assets on supernet or just certain ones ....im still confused  

you will get dividends of all assets released related to supernet, AND you will also get dividends from all the affiliates that supernet owns portions of.
so once they are all up and running JUST FOR OWNING SUPERNET you will get dividends from
Privatebet
InstantDEX
NXTprivacy
Atomic
NeoDICE
NXTcoinsco
cryptocard
Pangea
FreeMarket
Omnigames
etc...

plus you will get paid asset dividends and the assets that you got from dividends will then later PAY dividends

GOOD INFO....so to clear it up I should just buy unity and wait for dividends in my nxt wallet and don't need to buy other assets...assets within assets etc....

SuperNET is all you need. All the assets within assets... are built into SuperNET itself. Only if you want to concentrate investment into a specific area, do you need to delve into all the different assets/coins

James

just to be clear so I just buy supernet unitys and wait for dividends in my nxt wallet... how? when? will i get paid dividends lets say for example if i buy 100 unitys how would that work how much am i looking at for current market thanks in advance

+1 

Realistically the biggest dividends in the short term will be asset dividends. There are 75000 each of omnigames, Jay and SNN in the pipeline, so just a bit less than 1 asset per 11 UNITY assets. With an average market price of 30 NXT for these, 100 UNITY would get 11 * 30 * 3 = 990 NXT worth of dividends. Timeframe is totally unpredictable, but with the market price of about 180 NXT this is 1/18'th > 5% return just from the dividends.

Keep in mind that 90%+ of UNITY value is backed by the BTC, NXT and other crypto it holds and it uses this to put up buywalls to allow for liquidity. Currently there is 2 million NXT worth of buywalls at 160 NXT, one in NXT AE and one in BTER

I target a risk profile of 20% on the downside and X% on the upside. If you hold onto the asset dividends and they grow, then the yields are better of course. I didnt charge anything for the revenue side of SuperNET as it was sold at NAV, eg. liquidation value and this is why it has held its value throughout the bear market.

James

[patmast3r]

Does this sound too good to be true only to me ?
It's like we bought a little money making machine that sits on a blockchain  and spits out money every month without the holders doing anything
I'm waiting for the FEDs to kick down doors any moment now

[youngmike]

[Cassius]

Hello patmast3r, nice to see you here. Seems we have an increasingly broad cross section of crypto.
No one from Monero though?
@jl777 thanks for the analysis

[pigheadbig]

jl777,
any plan to chancecoin after the supernet accept it,
it is so quiet about that.

[fartbags]

Does this sound too good to be true only to me ?
It's like we bought a little money making machine that sits on a blockchain  and spits out money every month without the holders doing anything
I'm waiting for the FEDs to kick down doors any moment now

I don't get it. That would be impossible. The money has to come from somewhere.

It sounds like they're taking your money and investing in coins/stuff, which is a good idea. The can research coin devs, buy undervalued coins, and sell to pay out dividends later once price rises. There's lots of money to be made. They may also be looking to make popular apps/websites that require coins to use. As long as they keep making money there will be tons of dividends to pay out.

I'm into this idea that they have going on. The superNET is a nice bit of technology to hide behind and make it all work. They can then start getting coin devs together and build a team of 20+ devs.

This is all a pretty exciting idea.

[buy4crypto]

if you guys are looking for applications for the supernet, should check out GAIA coin. Maybe the app store that was released yesterday would be a good fit. Gaia platform has some disruptive tech that would work well in the SuperNet IMHO.

[Este Nuno]

Does this sound too good to be true only to me ?
It's like we bought a little money making machine that sits on a blockchain  and spits out money every month without the holders doing anything
I'm waiting for the FEDs to kick down doors any moment now

I don't get it. That would be impossible. The money has to come from somewhere.

It sounds like they're taking your money and investing in coins/stuff, which is a good idea. The can research coin devs, buy undervalued coins, and sell to pay out dividends later once price rises. There's lots of money to be made. They may also be looking to make popular apps/websites that require coins to use. As long as they keep making money there will be tons of dividends to pay out.

I'm into this idea that they have going on. The superNET is a nice bit of technology to hide behind and make it all work. They can then start getting coin devs together and build a team of 20+ devs.

This is all a pretty exciting idea.

I expect the initial revenue generated to come mainly from the SuperNET related services that are being worked on right now like all the assets under the Privatebet banner: NeoDICE, Pangea Poker, Omnigames ect. In these cases the money certainly won't be coming from nowhere, as each asset has it's own clear path to profitability once things get on track.

[Este Nuno]

Hello patmast3r, nice to see you here. Seems we have an increasingly broad cross section of crypto.
No one from Monero though?
@jl777 thanks for the analysis

Superresistant is a big SuperNET supporter as well as a big Monero supporter. I believe he runs his own Monero mining pool as well.

[youngmike]

Monero is dead, it was a last season thing. Why talking about monero? 

[McDoxy1]

Monero is dead, it was a last season thing. Why talking about monero? 

No offense, but what you just wrote is exactly what is wrong with the altcoin scene...

This constant "*** coin is dead!" because you don't like it or the price is really low right now compared to a few months ago is a sign for this omnipresent pump and dump mentality, which I find rather disgusting.

As long as a coin has developers that constantly try to work and improve its technology then it is by definition not dead. The price of a coin doesn't matter.

And that's why I like SuperNET so much, trying to unite everyones technology in one big network.