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September 12, 2015, 12:05:12 AM |
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why on earth should a solo-miner pay someone any fee, what he can get for free @127.0.0.1 ?
And even, if he got it for 0%, why should a solo-miner risk his reward, if the "solo-pool" is beeing attacked?
The benefits of mining here over true solo mining are explained clearly in the top post and the website. If you don't wish to take advantage of those benefits for a measly 0.5% fee and risk mining one solo block in your life that ends up being orphaned, then that's your choice. Hmm, ok: "Advantages over regular solo mining: Mining at solo.ckpool.org avoids the overheads of running a full bitcoin node that requires both great storage and bandwidth for optimal performance. Solo.ckpool.org is extensively connected to high speed low latency bitcoin nodes for rapid block change notification and propagation." I think, a full bitcoin node is a MUST HAVE for every serious miner, obviously we disagree in that ...
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tokona44
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September 12, 2015, 12:15:06 AM |
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...Dont you need to set up a solo pool in your home if you are going to mine from 400ghs and up?
Of course not, it is a basic feature of your bitcoin program, used since Bitcoin No. 1 ;-) Ok, then i have got the wrong info.
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Belligerent Fool
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September 12, 2015, 12:40:45 AM |
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If you use Bitcoin then you must have a fully synced up Bitcoin Client for security reasons... if not then wholly cow.
Mining on ck's solo Bitcoin pool avoids all the energy and system CPU usage required to run the wallet & mine + the most important part the Latency, ck pool would be superior to what the standard joe's ISP offer in comparison.
Like being said before you run a very high risk for Orhpans if you do it by yourself & yes we are talking about the general everyday people with ASIC hardware.
Also note that ck pool acts as a pool so you can rent rigs and hash there just like every other coin, pretty difficulty to do that when your solo mining yourself unless you have the "know how" to set up your own mini pool to direct all your own hardware to.
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-ck (OP)
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September 12, 2015, 01:46:16 AM |
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I think, a full bitcoin node is a MUST HAVE for every serious miner, obviously we disagree in that ...
Don't argue against something I never said. Every miner should be running their own node(s). If you think you can set up a solo mining node for yourself locally that performs as well as that from the one I set up and avoid the 0.5% fee then by all means do. I provide a service and many many people have found it invaluable. Since I wrote the software that you are mining with and the pool software you are mining to and modify the bitcoind software of this pool it's fair to say I speak with some authority when I say it is NOT not comparable to mining solo at home. But as I said, it's your prerogative if you wish to try and recreate the performance of this pool at home - but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
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ttrrtt
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September 12, 2015, 01:55:26 AM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ...
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September 12, 2015, 03:27:11 AM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... shit in pants like a man who just saw a ghost
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September 12, 2015, 08:59:11 AM |
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...& yes we are talking about the general everyday people with ASIC hardware. ...
For sure we do NOT! Usual Asic-Owner are looking for a pool with minimum fees, like Eligius for example with 0% Those Asic-Owner with less than a GHs are maybe looking for some kind of luck, by mining solo, and YOU DARE, taking from this poor souls another 0.5% stupidity-fee? Hey if you are looking for free lunch just get your place in line for homeless people. They will serve you some shit there for sure. A good reading on topic if do care about fees is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1166135.msg12337887#msg12337887Folow the links in the post. Anyway good luck with que Pool fee is the LAST THING EVREYONE SHOULD LOOK!
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September 12, 2015, 09:33:38 AM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... Well, it takes a lot of courage to admit a misstep like that. And it honorable behaviour imho.
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September 12, 2015, 11:25:23 AM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... Come on man. You are trying to argue with the best software developers in Bitcoin history, ck and kano. When you will be legendary on this forum maybe they will listen to you.
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Nothing is impossible :-)
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September 12, 2015, 01:11:23 PM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... Come on man. You are trying to argue with the best software developers in Bitcoin history, ck and kano. When you will be legendary on this forum maybe they will listen to you. Kano files for antminer S3 errors in /etc/init.d/cgminer: so I said nothing about a great programmer. Pool solo.ckpool.org occasionally falls - this is the reality that I saw. Within two days you are spamming operation underway is nothing to be found even if the hash brute force.
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September 12, 2015, 02:08:33 PM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... Come on man. You are trying to argue with the best software developers in Bitcoin history, ck and kano. When you will be legendary on this forum maybe they will listen to you. Kano files for antminer S3 errors in /etc/init.d/cgminer: so I said nothing about a great programmer. ... lulz - it's a shell script that starts cgminer If you don't follow the steps in the README ... yep that will happen.
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September 12, 2015, 03:19:37 PM |
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...- but it is also not your "responsibility" to try and steer people away from this service if they wish to use it.
You're right! And I was wrong. I just realizied who you are. I'm so sorry ... I'm a Newb by all means, and I did all wrong, what I was able to do wrong! Sorry, please give me another chance some weeks upfront ... Come on man. You are trying to argue with the best software developers in Bitcoin history, ck and kano. When you will be legendary on this forum maybe they will listen to you. Kano files for antminer S3 errors in /etc/init.d/cgminer: so I said nothing about a great programmer. ... lulz - it's a shell script that starts cgminer If you don't follow the steps in the README ... yep that will happen. Do you have this configuration file bug! Read the readme for cgminer 4.9.2 and perhaps for that matter!
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September 12, 2015, 04:20:24 PM |
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from the creator of CGMiner http://solo.ckpool.org for Solominers paused: passthrough for solo.ckpool.org => stratum+tcp://rfpool.org:3334
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September 12, 2015, 05:11:49 PM |
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Here's a dumb question. Why is there a decimal point in the reported bestshare stats for a given worker?
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September 12, 2015, 05:41:23 PM |
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Here's a dumb question. Why is there a decimal point in the reported bestshare stats for a given worker?
Because that's part of the number. Why guess when you can be precise?
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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September 12, 2015, 06:04:11 PM |
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Here's a dumb question. Why is there a decimal point in the reported bestshare stats for a given worker?
Because that's part of the number. Why guess when you can be precise? Given that only the whole number counts, it seems like a high noise to signal ratio. Do we really need 12 digits of precision? Also it's a bit depressing when there's twice as many digits in the fractional value as the whole number. My Compac sticks have got a long way to go
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os2sam
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September 12, 2015, 06:16:24 PM |
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Here's a dumb question. Why is there a decimal point in the reported bestshare stats for a given worker?
Because that's part of the number. Why guess when you can be precise? Given that only the whole number counts, it seems like a high noise to signal ratio. Do we really need 12 digits of precision? Also it's a bit depressing when there's twice as many digits in the fractional value as the whole number. My Compac sticks have got a long way to go I think it's just the number that Bitcoind dishes out so they display it directly.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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September 12, 2015, 09:52:02 PM |
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Here's a dumb question. Why is there a decimal point in the reported bestshare stats for a given worker?
Because that's the precision used internally when calculating the value in the ckpool code and the stats you're reading are just the exposed data stored in ckpool; it wasn't really designed with users reading it in mind. I just happened to make that data visible to users on this pool since it makes them get an idea of how close (or far) they got from solving a block.
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September 13, 2015, 02:48:56 PM |
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why on earth should a solo-miner pay someone any fee, what he can get for free @127.0.0.1 ?
And even, if he got it for 0%, why should a solo-miner risk his reward, if the "solo-pool" is beeing attacked?
I have been mining here for a while - and found a block here after having loads of problems running my own solo mining farm... all i have to do is point my miners here and not worry about having to run a full fat bitcoin node and the the software and the checking. In one fell swoop i had over 100% ROI and electricity costs covered for a couple of years. How big is your farm of miners?
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