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Author Topic: ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 on Sale this week, shipping before Sept. Ends  (Read 32932 times)
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September 16, 2014, 04:04:28 PM
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unless it's drastically more efficient power wise

If it follows the same pattern as S1/S2, S4 will be significantly more efficient and significantly more expensive than S3.

Well the price will have to be better than S3 per GH by a significant amount, else MEH!!

SP-Jackson is 1300 shipped plus 200 (PSU) for 1.7 in October, so that is $0.88 and WE ALL know SPT is high and probably smoking something too.. These Manufacturers are ALL shoving their COCKS up OUR asses, I will pass on anything above $1200.00 USD DELIVERED B4 October.
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September 16, 2014, 04:05:27 PM
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no more than usd 1500 + shipping + on time delivery + coupons & i might consider 20 units minimum buy.
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September 16, 2014, 04:08:53 PM
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It will probably arrive half assembled and / or broken, like the S2's did...

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September 16, 2014, 04:09:15 PM
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I guess it will be around ~1.1kW psu, ~0.55W/GH (as this was avertised as maximum chip efficiency).

Price should be around 0.7$/GH, that would be very fair.

I hope it will be shipped / built in a manner that protects it against damage from moving parts during shipping.
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September 16, 2014, 04:16:34 PM
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unless it's drastically more efficient power wise

If it follows the same pattern as S1/S2, S4 will be significantly more efficient and significantly more expensive than S3.

Well the price will have to be better than S3 per GH by a significant amount, else MEH!!


That's not all that matters, unless you get free electricity. Watts per GH/s is quite important too.

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September 16, 2014, 05:00:25 PM
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If you start today, with $0.10 electricity/ 10% diff increase, 1000watts

2TH will mine 2.7 BTC before it operates at a loss. This means the price needs to be ~ $1000 or less to be interesting.


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September 16, 2014, 05:06:22 PM
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That's not all that matters, unless you get free electricity. Watts per GH/s is quite important too.

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September 16, 2014, 05:07:30 PM
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Will the firmware in these support p2pool?

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September 16, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
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If you start today, with $0.10 electricity/ 10% diff increase, 1000watts

2TH will mine 2.7 BTC before it operates at a loss. This means the price needs to be ~ $1000 or less to be interesting.


I agree. 2 BTC would be fine with me, at current pricing. If I can get 800 GH/s, Asicminer Tubes, for $400, then Bitmain should be able to do 2 TH/s for around $1,000.
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September 16, 2014, 05:11:03 PM
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With the S3 I fell into the trap thinking that 1btc starting price will be good and Bitmain trycked me selling it for 0.68
now will be the same I think everyone believes it will be available around 1000 $ so bitmain will beat this,and offer it about 1.7 BTC
this is my prediction.
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September 16, 2014, 05:19:46 PM
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You guys are dreaming if you think they will price these at 2BTC.

In the next 60 days they would likely mine 1.4BTC just running them themselves.

Shipping is a huge part of the cost. I would factor $200+ from China to US 2nd Day.

The units appear to include PSUs. They likely way 30+ lbs not including packing materials.

My guess is they will price these around 4-5BTC. But feel free to poke fun when I'm wrong, which I very well may be.

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September 16, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
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4 Btc would be hugely expensive for a 2 TH miner.
0.7-0.8$/GH seems like a fair price to me, so around 3.4Btc would be a fair price imo.
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September 16, 2014, 05:24:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong though, if they end up being 2BTC I'll buy a boat load.

On a side note:

We received 34 of our 44 ordered S3+ Units today. Lots of boxes to open this evening! Ready to fire them up!

Thank you Bitmain, delivered early many thanks! Smiley

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September 16, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
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If you start today, with $0.10 electricity/ 10% diff increase, 1000watts

2TH will mine 2.7 BTC before it operates at a loss. This means the price needs to be ~ $1000 or less to be interesting.


I agree. 2 BTC would be fine with me, at current pricing. If I can get 800 GH/s, Asicminer Tubes, for $400, then Bitmain should be able to do 2 TH/s for around $1,000.

Tubes are ~1W per GH/s, I expect the S4 to be a lot better than that and probably a lot more expensive.

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September 16, 2014, 05:35:24 PM
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Don't get me wrong though, if they end up being 2BTC I'll buy a boat load.

On a side note:

We received 34 of our 44 ordered S3+ Units today. Lots of boxes to open this evening! Ready to fire them up!

Thank you Bitmain, delivered early many thanks! Smiley

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September 16, 2014, 05:45:11 PM
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My partner's S3+'s showed up here last night too, working on them now, the one I got running has been solid at 500 Gh/s / 250 Mhz all night I am told. Here's to hoping the other 9 are as good.

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September 16, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
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Don't get me wrong though, if they end up being 2BTC I'll buy a boat load.

On a side note:

We received 34 of our 44 ordered S3+ Units today. Lots of boxes to open this evening! Ready to fire them up!

Thank you Bitmain, delivered early many thanks! Smiley

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September 16, 2014, 06:28:34 PM
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I really like the smaller form factor than the S2s, but I am sure these will be priced disappointingly high. A good offset would be ... Wait for it ... Coupons!
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September 16, 2014, 06:55:03 PM
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I agree. 2 BTC would be fine with me, at current pricing. If I can get 800 GH/s, Asicminer Tubes, for $400, then Bitmain should be able to do 2 TH/s for around $1,000.

You're comparing 40nm vs 28nm chips, one manufacturer getting rid of old stock to one manufacturer recently releasing new stock.  Not to mention, they will be just as the S2 -high density and underclocked for better W/GHs- and provide power supply.  There is zero chance they will come in under $1000, though they should to ROI even @ 10% diff.

I just hope the S2 upgrades are priced a little more reasonably than the S1 upgrades were (basically a joke, only fit for upgrading dead miners).  I would estimate ~BTC3-3.5 for the S4's, and BTC2.75 for the S2 upgrades if they can re-use the PSU's which is highly unlikely.

My S3's from B8 all arrived late last week.  Mining VERY consistently at ~450-455 GH/s stock clocking.  Much less variance than all the S1's I've received (second hand mind you).

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September 16, 2014, 07:27:25 PM
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A reasonable price please!!! Undecided Undecided

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