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[Newko]

My best bud Rev. Mike passed away 2,500 miles from home at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney, about 2300UTC last night. The aortic aneurysm just caused too much damage. His wife Gail was at his side, and their Aussie friends.

If it wasn't for Michael, I would not be mining. After I lost everything at Mt. Gox and in the crash, he believed in me and my biz plan. It was Mike who put up the relatively small amount for a used S2 back in that day, and we built the mine according to our little plan from there. It worked.

When Mike entered my life I was living on a partial VA disability and Social Security. It was a fight making it each month. I'm now accumulating as much in BTC each month as my pensions, and I don't have to worry about minor catastrophes like car problems, etc.

RIP, Mikey.  

Very sorry to hear. Sounds like he was a really good guy.

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[philipma1957]

My best bud Rev. Mike passed away 2,500 miles from home at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney, about 2300UTC last night. The aortic aneurysm just caused too much damage. His wife Gail was at his side, and their Aussie friends.

If it wasn't for Michael, I would not be mining. After I lost everything at Mt. Gox and in the crash, he believed in me and my biz plan. It was Mike who put up the relatively small amount for a used S2 back in that day, and we built the mine according to our little plan from there. It worked.

When Mike entered my life I was living on a partial VA disability and Social Security. It was a fight making it each month. I'm now accumulating as much in BTC each month as my pensions, and I don't have to worry about minor catastrophes like car problems, etc.

RIP, Mikey.  

   Sorry for your loss.  I had some losses this year they are always painful to me. I am sure you are in some pain. Please keep his memory close to your heart.

[mdude77]

he thinks  the bad luck reflects the price rise.  and that kano is skimming off the top.

I don't believe that.  I think larger pools have figured out how to boost their luck  and kano.is pool may not be on an even playing field.

If antpool  can do asic boost or some kind of variation of it.

and kano pool can not do that  the playing field is not even and 100% luck is not the norm .

It's an interesting theory.

I really doubt Kano would do anything dishonest.  However the idea that others are playing unfairly, now that could explain it all.

And your point about Kano putting 2 BTC in to try to break the unreal bad block is good as well.

At this hash rate, variance should less than half of what it was.  It sure doesn't feel like that.

M

[padrinogtr]

hash rate was doubled from last week but it does not seem to have any effect whatsoever compared to the pool history
cant help but think something weird is going on

[padrinogtr]

i know this one will be erased...
but slush pool gets one to two blocks per hour on average with 700 PH
something is off

[padrinogtr]

furthermore BC pool
gets multiple blocks per day with 300+PH

...delete if you must

im still here... i just dont know how much i can hold out

[smutboy420]

if  ant pool employs some type of booster  and make 105% luck their norm. it hurts kano.is a lot

From all I can tell about how antpool calculates their overall luck score is they pull it out of thin air. aka there asses and just claim whatever number they want.  With no real rhyme or reason to how they come up with there numbers showing overall pool luck.


esp when they already know that anyone mining there is a good indicator the person dont pay attention and don't and cant audit anything to see how bad they are getting jipped mining there.  which is how come lots of people think their fees are low when they don't factor in that antpoo skims the tx fees for themselves.  opps I mean there network engineers.

 

[mdude77]

I'm sure Kano is all over this like white on rice.

And if anyone can figure it out, he can!

M

[kano]

I'm sure Kano is all over this like white on rice.

And if anyone can figure it out, he can!

M

Well there's nothing I can figure out other than it's bad luck.
I've run quite a few extra luck reports trying to see if anything shows up, but the fact of the matter is that it's just a small sample of data over about a week so it not possible to draw any difinitive conclusions from it.

The numbers don't match anything like what is considered improbable.
You can see that by the CDF[Erl] numbers on the web site.

The majority of the hash rate jump is using Nicehash - i.e. about half the pool - but the other half of the pool is still the same half of the pool as before that.

The point of the (total 3) BTC I spent there was to simply help speed up the time to get to the next block.
Yeah I lost half of that - oh well, nothing I can do about it - bad luck is bad luck.
It's of course BTC I got running the pool, so putting it back into the pool with a low risk of losing it seemed like a good idea to me at the time, and I can't predict the future

Though ... I am feeling like doing another restart just for the heck of it before we hit 600%

OK, couldn't take it any more ... I did do that restart at 590%
All ok and hash rate is almost back up also.
C'mon luck where are you!
OK time for call on another anime goddess for luck ... Hestia

[padrinogtr]

Btw
On the iOS app the worker monitor is frozen since yesterday

[clgrissom3]

Btw
On the iOS app the worker monitor is frozen since yesterday

There is a forum thread for the IOS app support...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1344360

[mdude77]

Some more thoughts on the apparent unreal bad luck here.

- I don't know why Kano would do anything to sabotage the pool.  As someone pointed out not that long ago, do the math do see what a 0.9% fee means on a block when BTC is at current value.  One block a day works out to a _very_ nice day job.  (Imagine what the other pools are making!!!)

- A block withholding attack hurts the miner in question.  The only reason someone would do that is to tarnish the pool.  Only someone with deep pockets would (and could) do that.  That would point to other pools who are making ridiculous amounts in pool and transaction fees.

- It's unlikely there's a technical issue with the pool that's causing a problem.  Kano knows his stuff.

- While I don't know as much as Kano about mining, I know a good amount, and I don't see how it's technically feasible for other pools to "boost luck" in their favor.

M

[minergain.com]

So I am still trying to figure out the whole mining process.  So when the pool starts processing a block, is it the same block until we (all the Kano miners) finish it?  I saw another post that makes it seem like we start a new block anytime the network finds one.  I suspect servers and databases start getting taxed at some level - probably way higher than 200TH though.  Since you restarted the system, does that grab a new block for us all to process or do you do that to restart the Nonce that we process?

Also, as I understand it, the seconds are passed into the sha256 algorithm.  Does the Kano.is network send the time as part of the work or is that generated by the miner?  It seems that having the second constantly changing with this level of difficulty may make things more unlucky.  How frequently is Kano resetting the Nonce's that gets distributed to the miners?  I am assuming that the Kano pool servers are such that the Nonce ranges are different for every miner on the network.  Does anyone know what kind of leway is allowed by the bitcoin network for the time that is passed in for a found block?  Is it possible to have our 200TH work on the same timestamp for a minute or two so that everything is not being reset every second?  With the difficulty being so high, I suspect that there are some things like this that may improve luck.  Obviously if the miner is sending the time into the algorithm, then it would need the "firmware" changed which is not a good option.

Anyway, some other thoughts.  So summarizing my biggest questions if anyone has the answers: 1) Is a new block issued when someone on the network finds a block? 2) Does Kano send the timestamp as part of the work or is it the miner? 3) How frequently is Kano resetting the Nonces? 4) If Kano is sending timestamps, how frequently are those changed?

[rifleman74]

Some more thoughts on the apparent unreal bad luck here.

- I don't know why Kano would do anything to sabotage the pool.  As someone pointed out not that long ago, do the math do see what a 0.9% fee means on a block when BTC is at current value.  One block a day works out to a _very_ nice day job.  (Imagine what the other pools are making!!!)

- A block withholding attack hurts the miner in question.  The only reason someone would do that is to tarnish the pool.  Only someone with deep pockets would (and could) do that.  That would point to other pools who are making ridiculous amounts in pool and transaction fees.

- It's unlikely there's a technical issue with the pool that's causing a problem.  Kano knows his stuff.

- While I don't know as much as Kano about mining, I know a good amount, and I don't see how it's technically feasible for other pools to "boost luck" in their favor.

M

Well we know someone with deep pockets has joined the pool in the last few weeks with rented hashes.   For now I'm splitting 50/50 with slush and kano and may move more over to slush. 

[nicknolte]

I doubt you actually have been mining in the pool with an S7 since Feb, I think you saw that @padrinogtr's post about:

sell me a couple of S7 will you?

And you thought it could be a quick scam.  Then again this could be me just being paranoid, [...]

You are not right about my intentions, I meant what I wrote above. Then that's just me being a newbie.

[...] too many scams like the one we just saw about someone PM'ing Kano pool members.

I guess that's right, shouldn't have discussed anything in this forum that could be seen as scam.

[minergain.com]

Oh, and I was with slush before I came to kano and I have been logging activity on both for several months (when I started mining).  The competition is almost 800TH now which is insane.  It was around 250 a few months ago when I left to join Kano at around 80.  I needed around 5 blocks on the other to equal one on Kano.  That is around 4 to one now.  There have been times where other pool has had terrible times where they would get a block a day for a streak.  There are times where they will pull in  15 or more in a day, but Kano has done 5 at the 80TH range which is like 25 of the other.  So it seems that everything comes out in the wash if you look at the long term.  That is why I like the payout system that Kano offers since it rewards long term miners.

[joel coin]

I guess that's right, shouldn't have discussed anything in this forum that could be seen as scam.

Okay then, my bad.  

In other news..

I wondered earlier last week when I started really engaging in this forum why all of the lasting members always seemed so jaded or sarcastic when posting replies to ppl. Now I know: everyone here is constantly bombarded with newbie accounts that either could be legit or could be fake... Most often turning out to be the latter.

[mdude77]

I guess that's right, shouldn't have discussed anything in this forum that could be seen as scam.

Okay then, my bad.  

In other news..

I wondered earlier last week when I started really engaging in this forum why all of the lasting members always seemed so jaded or sarcastic when posting replies to ppl. Now I know: everyone here is constantly bombarded with newbie accounts that either could be legit or could be fake... Most often turning out to be the latter.

Scammers are ALL OVER THE PLACE here.  Most of us, myself included, have been scammed somewhere along the way.  Even accounts that look "old" can be suspicious as they can be sold for a price, or possibly even compromised.

We have to be suspicious.

M

[joel coin]

- A block withholding attack hurts the miner in question.  The only reason someone would do that is to tarnish the pool.  Only someone with deep pockets would (and could) do that.  That would point to other pools who are making ridiculous amounts in pool and transaction fees.

I was looking at all the top pools, >50% of the btc network is either owned/invested in by Bitmain or physically located in China  (and/or both): I won't name them but just look at the top 5-6.

Theoretically speaking, couldn't they either benefit from broadcasting to each other what the next blocks are (either on purpose or just the sheer fact of being *physically located* in China) before those communications are received and processed by the other members of the network?
I am constantly seeing triples or quadruples of blocks found by the same pool or the same related 2-3 pools that it just seems to me this could be happening.

I don't know whether it's possible but with how money hungry Bitmain is I have no doubt that they'd do it in a heartbeat if they figured out *how*

[mdude77]

- A block withholding attack hurts the miner in question.  The only reason someone would do that is to tarnish the pool.  Only someone with deep pockets would (and could) do that.  That would point to other pools who are making ridiculous amounts in pool and transaction fees.

I was looking at all the top pools, >50% of the btc network is either owned/invested in by Bitmain or physically located in China  (and/or both): I won't name them but just look at the top 5-6.

Theoretically speaking, couldn't they either benefit from broadcasting to each other what the next blocks are (either on purpose or just the sheer fact of being *physically located* in China) before those communications are received and processed by the other members of the network?
I am constantly seeing triples or quadruples of blocks found by the same pool or the same related 2-3 pools that it just seems to me this could be happening.

I don't know whether it's possible but with how money hungry Bitmain is I have no doubt that they'd do it in a heartbeat if they figured out *how*

There is no doubt that far too much hashpower resides in China and with Bitmain.  I believe there is a documented "51% attack" that could be used to take over the network by someone with too much power.  Diversity of pools is very important.

However that doesn't seem to be going on here.  Somehow this pool just isn't getting blocks as often as one might expect.  It's not like blocks are being found and then orphaned; they just aren't being found.

M