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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350137 times)
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December 27, 2017, 02:51:44 AM
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Any hardware nerds in here???  Grin  I suppose I could post this question in a more-specific sub-forum but figured I would post it here first. Purchased a broken S9 because the price was stupid, $110. Question is, the boards are all bad or have some issue. Can I just buy different boards and switch them out? I know there was one guy on here attempting to figure out what was wrong with the boards and fix them. I am no genius with circuitry so not going down that path. Also, what makes a miner a 12.5, 13.0, 13.5, 14.0. Is it just the variance from manufacturing or was this due to upgraded chips etc...? Thanks.

Any interest in selling the unit as-is? I'd give you a 100%+ ROI on it...

I was born at night, not last night. At the current demand on the bay, I could probably fetch 2000+ easy. I looked at the sold listings yesterday. Couldn't believe my eyes.
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December 27, 2017, 01:34:52 PM
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Hi guys,

a n00b question sorry

I have bought my first miner (avalon 741) and started mining on kano pool on 22. December.

However - after 5 days of mining at constant 7.5 Th/s I only received 2 small awards:

23/Dec amount 0.00019134 BTC
25/Dec amount 0.00064641 BTC

according to profitability calculator my miner should generate around 19 USD/day and after 5 days I'm nowhere close to this amount?

what am I doing wrong? my reported hashing rate and internet connection are both stable

thanks for any help!
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December 27, 2017, 01:57:06 PM
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Look here: https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

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These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
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December 27, 2017, 02:26:41 PM
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I know I just got one of the biggest blocks we have had in awhile, but it's time again for a block so pulling out another Goddess of Wealth!


Donate BTC to: 1PXBBTLqXQnT9qAyWsc51XGj2GUt4WW57x
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December 27, 2017, 02:38:40 PM
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Hi guys,

a n00b question sorry

I have bought my first miner (avalon 741) and started mining on kano pool on 22. December.

However - after 5 days of mining at constant 7.5 Th/s I only received 2 small awards:

23/Dec amount 0.00019134 BTC
25/Dec amount 0.00064641 BTC

according to profitability calculator my miner should generate around 19 USD/day and after 5 days I'm nowhere close to this amount?

what am I doing wrong? my reported hashing rate and internet connection are both stable

thanks for any help!

A few different things:

Most importantly, you're not fully ramped up. In order to prevent pool hopping, Kano's payout mechanism takes some time before it'll pay out the full awards. In this case, its shares based on the network difficulty.

It takes some time for your miner to "ramp up" so that your shares are consistently counting for their full reward. This also works to your advantage if you lose power, internet, or leave the pool. If it takes 2 weeks, for example, for you to be fully ramped up, it'll also take 2 weeks for you to ramp down - do you get a reward even if your miners are offline, based on their past work.

Secondly, the profitability calculators use averages. Those are your expected earnings over a period of time at the current difficulty. If a pool doesn't find a block, you don't get anything. If a big pool is finding blocks all the time, you get less because there's more users.

Like all things that are probability based, it'll all equal out in the long run - but you gotta keep it up for that long run in order to see the expected rewards.
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December 27, 2017, 03:25:32 PM
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Hi Kano,

Can you help me with this one?

There is a substantial difference between the Hash rate shown in the top right corner below my username and the total hash rate shown in the table under the 'Workers' tab. I am trying to figure out which represents what and which one is my actual current hash rate...

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December 27, 2017, 04:01:48 PM
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Hello all, super noob here. Have 3 S9's ordered from ebay for the late Jan batch, praying this order doesn't get cancelled. Hopefully be online by the 2nd week of Feb. Looks like a great community and I can't wait to join in the fun.

Do your homework now. Ping and find out the fastest server to connect to. Read the threads and try and discern how to set them up and how the 5ND works, etc BEFORE they arrive. If you can get the 22/240 V circuits installed before they arrive, Power Distribution Units and Power supplies on hand. Many Noobs don't do this and end up finding themselves trying to put all the little pieces but needed pieces into place. Welcome to the Best Bitcoin Mining Pool on the Planet with the Best Subject Matter Expert running it. Mine On With Kano-San. Merry Christmas.

How would one ping the servers? Currently have all my miners pointed to port 3333 but would love to know how to see if another port is better. Thanks
The port doesn't make any difference for performance.
The Node does, the others are: nl.kano.is de.kano.is jp.kano.is sg.kano.is and nya.kano.is

Thanks for the clarification. Turns out that nya.kano.is is faster for me than kano.is (35ms vs 91ms). Will changing the node over affect my shares and ramping up? I've been online with kano.is and if it won't make a substantial difference should i stay put?

Thanks in advance everyone.
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December 27, 2017, 04:17:07 PM
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Hello Kano Gurus,

I recently just switched from Slushpool to kano.is since I heard really good things about this pool. I have read about the ramp up period but also read that some people would see block rewards even before the ramp up period is completed. I also installed the Android app and got a "block found" notification once.

But it's been over 12 hours since I switched my S9 to kano.is and still don't see any information on the rewards page. How do I track activities related to how my miner is doing as it relates to rewards. Slushpool has an indication bar and rewards page which is very helpful.

Am I being too hasty for results? Just a bit worried though.
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December 27, 2017, 04:19:59 PM
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Hello Kano Gurus,

I recently just switched from Slushpool to kano.is since I heard really good things about this pool. I have read about the ramp up period but also read that some people would see block rewards even before the ramp up period is completed. I also installed the Android app and got a "block found" notification once.

But it's been over 12 hours since I switched my S9 to kano.is and still don't see any information on the rewards page. How do I track activities related to how my miner is doing as it relates to rewards. Slushpool has an indication bar and rewards page which is very helpful.

Am I being too hasty for results? Just a bit worried though.


When did you move your miner over? The last block we hit was on the 24th - so unless it was before then, you wouldn't have any rewards. Are you mining with your username, or just your BTC address? If you are using just your BTC address, you don't see any stats - you have to mine with your username for that.
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December 27, 2017, 05:13:07 PM
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Thanks for the prompt response wavelengthsf. I moved the miner yesterday over 12 hours ago. I guess I need some guidance as to how to track my contribution to the pool. Need to know that I am getting compensated for the contributions to the pool. Slushpool shows my hashrate on a particular block. Not sure how to find such info on kano since the rewards page is still blank.

Do you know how soon block information would show up on my rewards page?
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December 27, 2017, 05:16:02 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. Turns out that nya.kano.is is faster for me than kano.is (35ms vs 91ms). Will changing the node over affect my shares and ramping up? I've been online with kano.is and if it won't make a substantial difference should i stay put?

Thanks in advance everyone.
yes you should switch to lower latency
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December 27, 2017, 05:29:32 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. Turns out that nya.kano.is is faster for me than kano.is (35ms vs 91ms). Will changing the node over affect my shares and ramping up? I've been online with kano.is and if it won't make a substantial difference should i stay put?

Thanks in advance everyone
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The faster the node, the faster you can get the work to your miners, do the math and return the result back. They say in life, timing is everything, the same applies in Bitcoin Mining. Changing over is not going to affect anything regarding your ramp up that you need to worry about, if anything it might help you since you theoretically can process more shares per shift since you can get the work and return the result faster. I hope that helps.
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December 27, 2017, 05:38:57 PM
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Thanks for the prompt response wavelengthsf. I moved the miner yesterday over 12 hours ago. I guess I need some guidance as to how to track my contribution to the pool. Need to know that I am getting compensated for the contributions to the pool. Slushpool shows my hashrate on a particular block. Not sure how to find such info on kano since the rewards page is still blank.

Do you know how soon block information would show up on my rewards page?

Until we find a block, you won't get any reward. You only get paid when that happens.

You can look at your Workers Shift Graph to see what your average hash rate is (the red line.) That average increases as you ramp up to speed.

For example, I just put some new S9s online a couple days ago. My pool hashrate is ~85 th/s, but my average is only 61. Yesterday it was 59. It'll continue to rise until it hits 85 or so. If we found a block right now, i'd get paid for that average (61) vs. my actual (85.) In around a week and a half, my average will be up to 85 and i'll get a full reward for every block. But only when we find them - so that's why you see people in this thread doing block dances, praying to anime goddesses, and sacrificing things.
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December 27, 2017, 05:52:50 PM
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Thanks for the prompt response wavelengthsf. I moved the miner yesterday over 12 hours ago. I guess I need some guidance as to how to track my contribution to the pool. Need to know that I am getting compensated for the contributions to the pool. Slushpool shows my hashrate on a particular block. Not sure how to find such info on kano since the rewards page is still blank.

Do you know how soon block information would show up on my rewards page?

Until we find a block, you won't get any reward. You only get paid when that happens.

You can look at your Workers Shift Graph to see what your average hash rate is (the red line.) That average increases as you ramp up to speed.

For example, I just put some new S9s online a couple days ago. My pool hashrate is ~85 th/s, but my average is only 61. Yesterday it was 59. It'll continue to rise until it hits 85 or so. If we found a block right now, i'd get paid for that average (61) vs. my actual (85.) In around a week and a half, my average will be up to 85 and i'll get a full reward for every block. But only when we find them - so that's why you see people in this thread doing block dances, praying to anime goddesses, and sacrificing things.


In your experience, does the reward make up for the long wait before a block is found? I currently average 0.002918071 per day with Slushpool with only one S9.
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December 27, 2017, 05:57:14 PM
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What is the minimum to have a payout with dust ?
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December 27, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
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In your experience, does the reward make up for the long wait before a block is found? I currently average 0.002918071 per day with Slushpool with only one S9.

Yes, absolutely. I switched from Slush to Kano and I definitely see the difference. Slush is a fine pool, nothing wrong with it, but the fee is higher than Kano (2% vs .9% when he has it). The pool is much smaller, so the variance is higher, but the payouts are great when they come.
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December 27, 2017, 06:32:15 PM
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In your experience, does the reward make up for the long wait before a block is found? I currently average 0.002918071 per day with Slushpool with only one S9.

Yes, absolutely. I switched from Slush to Kano and I definitely see the difference. Slush is a fine pool, nothing wrong with it, but the fee is higher than Kano (2% vs .9% when he has it). The pool is much smaller, so the variance is higher, but the payouts are great when they come.

Thanks a bunch wavelengthsf. I'll give it a try for about a week or two and see how it goes. Hopefully great!! Smiley
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December 27, 2017, 06:34:37 PM
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Thanks for the clarification. Turns out that nya.kano.is is faster for me than kano.is (35ms vs 91ms). Will changing the node over affect my shares and ramping up? I've been online with kano.is and if it won't make a substantial difference should i stay put?

Thanks in advance everyone
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The faster the node, the faster you can get the work to your miners, do the math and return the result back. They say in life, timing is everything, the same applies in Bitcoin Mining. Changing over is not going to affect anything regarding your ramp up that you need to worry about, if anything it might help you since you theoretically can process more shares per shift since you can get the work and return the result faster. I hope that helps.
Thank you for the clarification. I have my 3 pools set to to stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333, stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:80, and stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333. My share rate is great but for some reason my hash rates all fell into 12.xTH/s from 13.xTH/s. It'll probably settle back to what it was in a few minutes. Ill keep yall posted.
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December 27, 2017, 06:56:32 PM
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Kano, any thoughts about switching the payout to be from a segwit address?  Theoretically this would reduce the size of the payout by 3/4 leaving room for another ~28KB of transactions in each block right?
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December 27, 2017, 07:25:02 PM
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Thanks a bunch wavelengthsf. I'll give it a try for about a week or two and see how it goes. Hopefully great!! Smiley

Sure - my advice is to give it 2 months. You need some time for the ramp up and the longer you mine, the less variance.
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