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[YabaDabaDoo]

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(Any NYC WXRX radio listeners in the 80/90s?  No?.. An I Dating myself?  )

I'm from Brooklyn and somewhat remember this, what frequency was the station on?

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[HawkmasterUK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0aB5HN77Wk

[rifleman74]

What he said.   You recognize the payout on the 101st block or when the reward/payment is generated on the website?  Either can work, just as long as you're consistent. 

I recognize it once Kano sends the payment - I believe that's always the 101st confirmation.

Makes sense...as long as you're consistent that's good enough for the IRS.

[kano]

140.75% of Diff, come on BLOCK!! Mine On!!

Can someone ELI5 this percentage? New to mining at Kano's and I was used to other interfaces and labels.

In general, the numbers of shares should be roughly the difficulty. So at today's difficulty, you'd be expected to find a block after 1,931,136,454,487 shares. However, it isn't a perfect calculation, since there is variance and luck. So when you see 140% diff, it means we've shared 40% over the amount that should give a block, statistically.

Thanks a lot!

... and there's a little table I post every so often about that
Coz, it's like rolling a dice, you of course expect to get a 6, on average, every 6 rolls, but of course you don't get exactly that.
Sometimes you might get two 6's, or no 6's, or three 6's - that's 'chaos' coming into it and giving you 'random' results - as long as the dice isn't weighted

So the table, in this case, is a table of CDF probabilities as follows:

Code:

 0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
 0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
 0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
 0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1

... and what this table says, e.g. for the 5th line, you expect, on average, over time, that 1 in 20.1 blocks we find will be over 300%

i.e. the most important part to understand in that, is that it's ok to get long blocks every so often, and that table even says, on average, how often to expect them, as long as the long term average is still close to 100%

Short term, the averages go up and down dramatically, but long term it should get closer and closer to 100% average.

... see the Pool->Blocks web page

[rifleman74]

140.75% of Diff, come on BLOCK!! Mine On!!

Can someone ELI5 this percentage? New to mining at Kano's and I was used to other interfaces and labels.

In general, the numbers of shares should be roughly the difficulty. So at today's difficulty, you'd be expected to find a block after 1,931,136,454,487 shares. However, it isn't a perfect calculation, since there is variance and luck. So when you see 140% diff, it means we've shared 40% over the amount that should give a block, statistically.

Thanks a lot!

... and there's a little table I post every so often about that
Coz, it's like rolling a dice, you of course expect to get a 6, on average, every 6 rolls, but of course you don't get exactly that.
Sometimes you might get two 6's, or no 6's or three 6's - that's 'chaos' coming into it and giving you 'random' results - as long as the dice isn't weighted

So the table, in this case, is a table of CDF probabilities as follows:

Code:

 0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
 0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
 0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
 0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1

... and what this table says, e.g. for the 5th line, you expect, on average, over time, that 1 in 20.1 blocks we find will be over 300%

i.e. the most important part to understand in that, is that it's ok to get long blocks every so often, and that table even says, on average, how often to expect them, as long as the long term average is still close to 100%

Short term, the averages go up and down dramatically, but long term it should get closer and closer to 100% average.

... see the Pool->Blocks web page

Let's just take a 145% block and then an under 15% block to even it out a bit.     MINE THE F ON!

[HawkmasterUK]

Well guys I have pointed my little aliens at the pool and hope to learn more and will learn to DANCE!!!

10x Antminer S9s (140TH)


Cheers Paul

[mdude77]

Well guys I have pointed my little aliens at the pool and hope to learn more and will learn to DANCE!!!

10x Antminer S9s (140TH)


Cheers Paul

Welcome!

M

[rifleman74]

Well guys I have pointed my little aliens at the pool and hope to learn more and will learn to DANCE!!!

10x Antminer S9s (140TH)


Cheers Paul

Welcome aboard, all it takes is one.   

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Well guys I have pointed my little aliens at the pool and hope to learn more and will learn to DANCE!!!

10x Antminer S9s (140TH)
Cheers Paul

Welcome aboard!

[bit2255]

Welcome to the party!

Mine on!

[Maus44]

Cheers Paul

Welcome! Now let us find a block 

[dkincaid]

Quick question for you Kano. On the rewards page the date format is strange (e.g. 31/Dec 04:29). It didn't used to be like that. The last time I copy and pasted, back in August I think, it was like 8/25/2017 8:22:00. The new format is difficult to get into a spreadsheet. Is it something on my end doing that or was it changed in the last few months in one of your updates? Would it be possible to go back to a more standard format?

Also, is the rewards data available through the API?

[kano]

Quick question for you Kano. On the rewards page the date format is strange (e.g. 31/Dec 04:29). It didn't used to be like that. The last time I copy and pasted, back in August I think, it was like 8/25/2017 8:22:00. The new format is difficult to get into a spreadsheet. Is it something on my end doing that or was it changed in the last few months in one of your updates? Would it be possible to go back to a more standard format?

Also, is the rewards data available through the API?

The web site never used the messed up american date format in any of the tables

The display format is based on space available, so often year isn't included.

There's no API for rewards (yet)

[fjtropepe]

What is the deal with the two hash rates separated by a forward slash on the top right of the worker's page? The first one seems like the actual and the second one is the one that is being used by the worker's graph. Or is this the share rate / hash rate.

[kano]

What is the deal with the two hash rates separated by a forward slash on the top right of the worker's page? The first one seems like the actual and the second one is the one that is being used by the worker's graph.

The first one in the 5 minute hash rate and the 2nd one is the one hour rash rate.
5 minute is a lot more dynamic and a lot less accurate than the 1 hour one.

[fjtropepe]

What is the deal with the two hash rates separated by a forward slash on the top right of the worker's page? The first one seems like the actual and the second one is the one that is being used by the worker's graph.

The first one in the 5 minute hash rate and the 2nd one is the one hour rash rate.

Thanks. One more question. Is there a reason why there is a significant difference between the hash rate reported on there and the one being reported on awesome miner or even the kano app? I have a 14TH model reporting in the 12s but on the app and on awesome miner it is in the 14s. All the other miners are dead on the numbers except that one.

[kano]

What is the deal with the two hash rates separated by a forward slash on the top right of the worker's page? The first one seems like the actual and the second one is the one that is being used by the worker's graph.

The first one in the 5 minute hash rate and the 2nd one is the one hour rash rate.

Thanks. One more question. Is there a reason why there is a significant difference between the hash rate reported on there and the one being reported on awesome miner or even the kano app? I have a 14TH model reporting in the 12s but on the app and on awesome miner it is in the 14s. All the other miners are dead on the numbers except that one.

Each way of measuring the hash rate is just an estimate based on shares found.
The less data used (less shares), the less accurate it will be.
Even an hour worth of submitted shares won't get you a finely accurate representation of what the miner thinks the hash rate is.
Another way to see that is to turn a miner off, then on again, and watch the hash rate go all over the place for an hour or so.

However, your hash rate number is also not really all that relevant either.
It's only representative of the expected number of shares you should find over a given time.

The actual number that matters is the total difficulty of shares submitted each shift, since that's what you are effectively rewarded (when we find a block)
The shift calculated hash rate number is, also, simply a calculation based on how long the shift was and the total difficulty of all the shares accepted in that shift.
That varies up and down a lot also.
Shares are just like blocks, they have an expected value but vary greatly from that expected value.

Paying close attention to your hash rate will not really help much.
What you want to look at is your average shift calculated hash rate over a day or two, since, again, the shift data decides what you will be rewarded.

[fjtropepe]

What is the deal with the two hash rates separated by a forward slash on the top right of the worker's page? The first one seems like the actual and the second one is the one that is being used by the worker's graph.

The first one in the 5 minute hash rate and the 2nd one is the one hour rash rate.

Thanks. One more question. Is there a reason why there is a significant difference between the hash rate reported on there and the one being reported on awesome miner or even the kano app? I have a 14TH model reporting in the 12s but on the app and on awesome miner it is in the 14s. All the other miners are dead on the numbers except that one.

Each way of measuring the hash rate is just an estimate based on shares found.
The less data used (less shares), the less accurate it will be.
Even an hour worth of submitted shares won't get you a finely accurate representation of what the miner thinks the hash rate is.
Another way to see that is to turn a miner off, then on again, and watch the hash rate go all over the place for an hour or so.

However, your hash rate number is also not really all that relevant either.
It's only representative of the expected number of shares you should find over a given time.

The actual number that matters is the total difficulty of shares submitted each shift, since that's what you are effectively rewarded (when we find a block)
The shift calculated hash rate number is, also, simply a calculation based on how long the shift was and the total difficulty of all the shares accepted in that shift.
That varies up and down a lot also.
Shares are just like blocks, they have an expected value but vary greatly from that expected value.

Paying close attention to your hash rate will not really help much.
What you want to look at is your average shift calculated hash rate over a day or two, since, again, the shift data decides what you will be rewarded.

Will do. Thanks.

[Waztim]

Well guys I have pointed my little aliens at the pool and hope to learn more and will learn to DANCE!!!

10x Antminer S9s (140TH)


Cheers Paul

Thanks for jumping in the Pool. The water is warm!! Mine On with KANO-SAN.

[2tights]

I'd be totally fine if I woke up tomorrow and we hit two blocks. Good times.