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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks  (Read 5351960 times)
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April 06, 2017, 10:48:02 PM
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... blah ...

Bullshit. Your acting just like core. Censoring the truth out. Kano pool has performed just as well as any other pool over the last year. Even with your conspiracy theories.
I'm not censoring out the truth, I've stated the facts of how you can find the blocks if they exist.
I've no idea if they exist, I've never looked - I'm not even siding with anyone.
I'm simply reporting facts.

Meanwhile we have a few people posting random opinions and links about it and some even ideas that wont even work.
You've had 2 pages of this off topic posting and that's enough.
If you want to continue it, start a thread about it somewhere else.

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April 06, 2017, 11:02:09 PM
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No that wont work (looking at pool block finding numbers), if you increase the hash rate, you'll find more blocks ... standard bitcoin.
... and I really should just delete both posts since I've already said I would.
Edit: ok 3 posts - all deleted.

My 3 facts tell you how to find the blocks, if they exist.
Read the document that shows which block version number bit/bits they are rolling, then look for blocks with that block version number bit/bits set.
If the bit/bits matches some bitcoin voting then you'll have to sort that out.
End of story.

Bullshit. Your acting just like core. Censoring the truth out. Kano pool has performed just as well as any other pool over the last year. Even with your conspiracy theories.
I'm not censoring out the truth, I've stated the facts of how you can find the blocks if they exist.
I've no idea if they exist, I've never looked - I'm not even siding with anyone.
I'm simply reporting facts.

Meanwhile we have a few people posting random opinions and links about it and some even ideas that wont even work.
You've had 2 pages of this off topic posting and that's enough.
If you want to continue it, start a thread about it somewhere else.

Then never mention the so called bad luck of the s9v1again. Your NUMBERS wrong. All pools are performing the same. The determining factor is the bitfury pool. I seriously doubt a company that received 90 million from investors is using bitmain miners. Yet they perform the same as Antpool,btcpool, or Kano pool. They perform the same. Even though bitfury doesn't have any S9v1 holding them back.

P.S. You have ignited the off topic with every comment on s9v1.
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April 06, 2017, 11:05:46 PM
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Then never mention the so called bad luck of the s9v1again. Your NUMBERS wrong. All pools are performing the same. The determining factor is the bitfury pool. I seriously doubt a company that received 90 million from investors is using bitmain miners. Yet they perform the same as Antpool,btcpool, or Kano pool. They perform the same. Even though bitfury doesn't have any S9v1 holding them back.
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The S9v1 stats are exactly that - stats - facts.
They're not "right" or "wrong" - they're what they are. Stats.

If you can't understand that they are bad, go read about poisson distribution statistics.

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P.S. You have ignited the off topic with every comment on s9v1.
Really? Hmm sounds like an exaggeration to make your post sound better than it's complete lack of understanding of statistics.

Here's the fun bit - you said before that coz I reduced the number of S9v1 mining on the pool that somehow makes the stats invalid.
How is that so? Seriously - provide any information at all that would make that statement anything but wrong.
There are still S9v1 mining on the pool, so there is still more data coming in each time I run a report, so the data simply gets more accurate, not less accurate.

Edit: PS you've changed the topic of the discussion I've banned, in case you've not realised it Tongue

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April 06, 2017, 11:14:19 PM
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Then never mention the so called bad luck of the s9v1again. Your NUMBERS wrong. All pools are performing the same. The determining factor is the bitfury pool. I seriously doubt a company that received 90 million from investors is using bitmain miners. Yet they perform the same as Antpool,btcpool, or Kano pool. They perform the same. Even though bitfury doesn't have any S9v1 holding them back.
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The S9v1 stats are exactly that - stats - facts.
They're not "right" or "wrong" - they're what they are. Stats.

If you can't understand that they are bad, go read about poisson distribution statistics.

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P.S. You have ignited the off topic with every comment on s9v1.
Really? Hmm sounds like an exaggeration to make your post sound better than it's complete lack of understanding of statistics.

Here's the fun bit - you said before that coz I reduced the number of S9v1 mining on the pool that somehow makes the stats invalid.
How is that so? Seriously - provide any information at all that would make that statement anything but wrong.
There are still S9v1 mining on the pool, so there is still more data coming in each time I run a report, so the data simply gets more accurate, not less accurate.

Variance. Just like your total pool hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the less variance. Same with the s9v1. Had the majority of the S9v1 people not left. The less variance which means more blocks.
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April 06, 2017, 11:16:07 PM
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Variance. Just like your total pool hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the less variance. Same with the s9v1. Had the majority of the S9v1 people not left. The less variance which means more blocks.
That's false.
Again learn about statistics.

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April 06, 2017, 11:17:33 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.
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April 06, 2017, 11:19:42 PM
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Variance. Just like your total pool hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the less variance. Same with the s9v1. Had the majority of the S9v1 people not left. The less variance which means more blocks.
That's false.
Again learn about statistics.

And yet you claim a higher pool hash rate will lower the variance.  So I guess you have been lying to everyone.
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April 06, 2017, 11:21:02 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.

I don't have the statistics on any other pool.
I'd hazard a guess that no other pool that doesn't use CKDB has those statistics available and those that do use CKDB probably have no idea about how to analyse it (I know one specific case of that being a fact)

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April 06, 2017, 11:25:03 PM
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Variance. Just like your total pool hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the less variance. Same with the s9v1. Had the majority of the S9v1 people not left. The less variance which means more blocks.
That's false.
Again learn about statistics.

And yet you claim a higher pool hash rate will lower the variance.  So I guess you have been lying to everyone.
Logic fail.

A implies B
does not guarantee
B implies A

That car is green.
Everything green is a car ...............

Variance goes both ways: more and less. That's why it's called variance.

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April 06, 2017, 11:25:53 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.

I don't have the statistics on any other pool.
I'd hazard a guess that no other pool that doesn't use CKDB has those statistics available and those that do use CKDB probably have no idea about how to analyse it (I know one specific case of that being a fact)
Simple. Hash rate to blocks found over the past year.
Everyone is claiming that the s9's are performing better on bitmain pools. Which is bullshit. Your pool has performed as well (or as shitty) as every other pool out there. So either the s9v1 is shitty on everyone's pool. Or just as good.
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April 06, 2017, 11:27:38 PM
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Variance. Just like your total pool hash rate. The higher the hash rate, the less variance. Same with the s9v1. Had the majority of the S9v1 people not left. The less variance which means more blocks.
That's false.
Again learn about statistics.

And yet you claim a higher pool hash rate will lower the variance.  So I guess you have been lying to everyone.
Logic fail.

A implies B
does not guarantee
B implies A

That car is green.
Everything green is a car ...............

Variance goes both ways: more and less. That's why it's called variance.

Logic fail.

More hash equals more blocks.  Equals Less variance
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April 06, 2017, 11:30:40 PM
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I'm  done.
 I really doubt you will compare pools. Even though it would bring more people to the pool. Your ego can't stand being wrong.

Mine on.
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April 06, 2017, 11:34:03 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.

I don't have the statistics on any other pool.
I'd hazard a guess that no other pool that doesn't use CKDB has those statistics available and those that do use CKDB probably have no idea about how to analyse it (I know one specific case of that being a fact)
Simple. Hash rate to blocks found over the past year.
Everyone is claiming that the s9's are performing better on bitmain pools. Which is bullshit. Your pool has performed as well (or as shitty) as every other pool out there. So either the s9v1 is shitty on everyone's pool. Or just as good.
Again - incorrect.
Firstly, you are assuming that every pool is only mining with S9v1 - which is obviously false.
If you mix statistics you then have a result about the mixed statistics, not about one part of those statistics.

Secondly, if you separated out the S9v1 from everything else, you'd also have to ensure that every pool mining with S9v1 is doing so in the same manner - that may be true, but it's not something you can know for sure without knowing in 100% detail pretty much everything about what's inside an S9v1.
This is where the S9v1 statistics come into play ... ... ... ... ...

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April 06, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.

I don't have the statistics on any other pool.
I'd hazard a guess that no other pool that doesn't use CKDB has those statistics available and those that do use CKDB probably have no idea about how to analyse it (I know one specific case of that being a fact)
Simple. Hash rate to blocks found over the past year.
Everyone is claiming that the s9's are performing better on bitmain pools. Which is bullshit. Your pool has performed as well (or as shitty) as every other pool out there. So either the s9v1 is shitty on everyone's pool. Or just as good.
Again - incorrect.
Firstly, you are assuming that every pool is only mining with S9v1 - which is obviously false.
If you mix statistics you then have a result about the mixed statistics, not about one part of those statistics.

Secondly, if you separated out the S9v1 from everything else, you'd also have to ensure that every pool mining with S9v1 is doing so in the same manner - that may be true, but it's not something you can know for sure without knowing in 100% detail pretty much everything about what's inside an S9v1.
This is where the S9v1 statistics come into play ... ... ... ... ...
Again incorrect. I am assuming that bitfury is not using any s9 at all. Yet they are performing as well as antpool. And Kano pool is performing as well as both. So that means s9's are not performing better on antpool. And it also means that the s9's are not performing worse on Kano pool.
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April 06, 2017, 11:45:10 PM
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Please. With the power of mathmatics.  Compare your pool with antpool and bitfury. It will prove your bad luck S9v1 bullshit.

I don't have the statistics on any other pool.
I'd hazard a guess that no other pool that doesn't use CKDB has those statistics available and those that do use CKDB probably have no idea about how to analyse it (I know one specific case of that being a fact)
Simple. Hash rate to blocks found over the past year.
Everyone is claiming that the s9's are performing better on bitmain pools. Which is bullshit. Your pool has performed as well (or as shitty) as every other pool out there. So either the s9v1 is shitty on everyone's pool. Or just as good.
Again - incorrect.
Firstly, you are assuming that every pool is only mining with S9v1 - which is obviously false.
If you mix statistics you then have a result about the mixed statistics, not about one part of those statistics.

Secondly, if you separated out the S9v1 from everything else, you'd also have to ensure that every pool mining with S9v1 is doing so in the same manner - that may be true, but it's not something you can know for sure without knowing in 100% detail pretty much everything about what's inside an S9v1.
This is where the S9v1 statistics come into play ... ... ... ... ...
Again incorrect. I am assuming that bitfury is not using any s9 at all. Yet they are performing as well as antpool. And Kano pool is performing as well as both. So that means s9's are not performing better on antpool. And it also means that the s9's are not performing worse on Kano pool.
Um ... the numbers clearly say the S9v1 are performing badly ... ... ...

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April 06, 2017, 11:48:25 PM
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I get it now. I now see why CK left. Kiss
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April 06, 2017, 11:50:04 PM
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I get it now. I now see why CK left. Kiss
If you think I falsify my statistics then you shouldn't be mining here.
Seriously, don't mine on a pool you don't trust, even if that's me.

Edit: and he didn't leave, he kicked me out Smiley

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April 06, 2017, 11:56:45 PM
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I get it now. I now see why CK left. Kiss
If you think I falsify my statistics then you shouldn't be mining here.
Seriously, don't mine on a pool you don't trust, even if that's me.

Edit: and he didn't leave, he kicked me out Smiley

Just a FYI. If your wife kicks you out. She's leaving you. Wink
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April 06, 2017, 11:58:27 PM
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Anyway I'm done. Have a wonderful night. May it bring the pool many blocks.
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Block by Tech-Display!  This is your 7th Kano block and our 1st of the new day! Cheesy
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