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[fjtropepe]

Uh oh... I've hit 5Nd... crack the block!

We need to get something going. Let's crack this. Almost two weeks on this bad boy.

[1715598200]

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[A.Delaney]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

[smartass111]

after few minutes it will be most difficult block in pool history (

[minergain.com]

after few minutes it will be most difficult block in pool history (

maybe half of the worst one we have seen...  long way to go for the worst.

[kano]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

[minergain.com]

You keep harping on future speculation and you want to change the Kano website to show speculation data.  The charts and data tables on the Kano web site are about displaying actual historical data; not speculation into the future about things that have not happened.  There's a huge difference.  Like I said, you can use any of the many calculators out there to do all the speculations and all the what-if scenarios you want.

I actually got it how kano displays things, but it is more amenable for many blocks situation and not very good for a small number of blocks per period.

Example:
imagine that in the first two days of, say, March , we cracked four blocks (instead of expected 0.5-1), then the web site would promptly display a very large luck number (multiple 100 of %), then, hypothetically, we did not hit any until mid April. All this time we would see this abnormally high number of luck through the rest of March and until that April date for the next block, at which point, the luck for April (but not March!) would change to a very low number (only in the example, of course).

Intuitively, it wouldn't be right for comprehension, but from the perspective of calculation, it would be correct:

As I said, it shows the stats for blocks found in January - not the hashing done in January.
The code works as: any block with a date of the month of interest, then it's numbers are included in the calculation for a given month.

[emphsis mine]

I agree with Grog and Biodom that the monthly stats are confusing when the number of blocks that we find take weeks.  With the very clear mathematical talent that Kano demonstrates, I expect it has been checked and rechecked tons of times over the years.  Obviously setting up background daily calculations is probably not an easy thing to implement without a lot of testing and may make the data really inaccurate during the transition.  Of course we are all hoping the pool will grow so it will be a non-issue anyway.  

So I wonder if an asterisk (*) could be added to the monthly stats (January in this case) when the month has rolled over without a block.  then under the monthly table, add the asterisk again with some sort of description below it?  At least that would give an indication that it will be updated at the next block.

Beyond trying to offer another thought on this, I would like to remind everyone here that we all are perceived as representatives of the Kano site even though we really are not.  I am an old fart that has always told my kids that texting and email communication is much easier to misconstrue versus face to face or phone where reactions are instant.  This forum is the same in my book.  As tempting it may be to do a quick pop off on a heated topic, please consider a re-read and edit before clicking the post button.

Now lets crack this block so we can get back to the cheering and Mine On!

[Newko]

Some very sensitive fellas here these days. I'm just a little piss ant hobby miner, but I've been here two years so I know who the good guys & gals are...and Carl is one of the good guys - very knowledgeable and very helpful. And Kano really knows his stuff, is totally transparent and brutally honest (sometimes a bit kurt, but we like him that way - no BS). Soooo...I really appreciate all the new miners helping out this pool, but for goodness sake, if you can't take some corrective criticism, well yes...exit signs are clearly marked. No offense intended.

Mine on!

[DPoS2]

You sound like those guys walking around the Atlantic City boardwalk

Ouch - that hurts!  I don't gamble and if I did AC would be the last place I'd want to go!  

- the problem is that at least the casino odds & payouts stay the same..  but with mining, luck doesn't even out from one diff change to the next.   It only evens out correctly within that diff change and with this pool you only have a few rolls of the dice between diffs to even it out..
that is what kills small pools..  the need to get more spins on the wheel before a bad 'day' at the track puts you on the street.  
a bad day at a big pool is like two bad months here.  You can recover if it really is one day during a diff cycle... but here that same amount of hashing would span 2-4 diff cycles

You make a good point - with the difficulty changing a bad run may never really even out.  Nevertheless, I'll stick with Kano since his pool is fair and transparent.  
Bitcoin will go back up eventually and make it all worthwhile and if it doesn't then life goes on - its not like my life savings is tied up in this.  

Hey I wish this pool would get some life in it .. I mined here for a good 3 months but then I said a few things to try to get a spark and pretty much got the usual scorn

This pool should try all kinds of gimmicks to keep miners here..  like charge 3% fee but give 2% to whoever gets the block.  Make the gambling worth it.. could even increase the fee payout a little more each day like a jackpot and then reset after the block...  put a little graphic jackpot meter on the website that grows just like the casinos..  yeah maybe I'm that guy on the boardwalk I am talking about 

[rifleman74]

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You keep harping on future speculation and you want to change the Kano website to show speculation data.  The charts and data tables on the Kano web site is about displaying actual historical data; not speculation into the future about things that have not happened.  There's a huge difference.  Like I said, you can use any of the many calculators out there to do all the speculations and all the what-if scenarios you want.

You are wrong. I am not speculating. I am predicting!

But well...  The person I would like to read my comment and to reply with his opinion is Kano

predicting does = speculating with PPLNS, since you cannot predict what will happen.

Carl is saying what I have said before, so yes what he said is correct = my opinion.

Meanwhile
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

Unbelievable... Ok... I didn't expect any idea of mine to be accepted, but humiliation is not a nice answer. I know where the exit door is, don't bother...

Cuckoo bananas, you're missing.

[rifleman74]

You sound like those guys walking around the Atlantic City boardwalk

Ouch - that hurts!  I don't gamble and if I did AC would be the last place I'd want to go!  

- the problem is that at least the casino odds & payouts stay the same..  but with mining, luck doesn't even out from one diff change to the next.   It only evens out correctly within that diff change and with this pool you only have a few rolls of the dice between diffs to even it out..
that is what kills small pools..  the need to get more spins on the wheel before a bad 'day' at the track puts you on the street.  
a bad day at a big pool is like two bad months here.  You can recover if it really is one day during a diff cycle... but here that same amount of hashing would span 2-4 diff cycles

You make a good point - with the difficulty changing a bad run may never really even out.  Nevertheless, I'll stick with Kano since his pool is fair and transparent.  
Bitcoin will go back up eventually and make it all worthwhile and if it doesn't then life goes on - its not like my life savings is tied up in this.  

Hey I wish this pool would get some life in it .. I mined here for a good 3 months but then I said a few things to try to get a spark and pretty much got the usual scorn

This pool should try all kinds of gimmicks to keep miners here..  like charge 3% fee but give 2% to whoever gets the block.  Make the gambling worth it.. could even increase the fee payout a little more each day like a jackpot and then reset after the block...  put a little graphic jackpot meter on the website that grows just like the casinos..  yeah maybe I'm that guy on the boardwalk I am talking about 

Bye bye!

[jeecom]

Gotcha. Well, when you are ready let me know. I am setting up a hosting site for myself and a few other people as we will be able to get power at 0.05 cents per kw if we band together and pull our resources together. I would be interested in picking up a few more units.

What country would this be in? If it were US, I'd be interested.

Sunshine state   

I am interested as well.  I tried to PM you but you have messages from newbies disabled.

[kano]

...
Hey I wish this pool would get some life in it .. I mined here for a good 3 months but then I said a few things to try to get a spark and pretty much got the usual scorn

This pool should try all kinds of gimmicks to keep miners here..  like charge 3% fee but give 2% to whoever gets the block.  Make the gambling worth it.. could even increase the fee payout a little more each day like a jackpot and then reset after the block...  put a little graphic jackpot meter on the website that grows just like the casinos..  yeah maybe I'm that guy on the boardwalk I am talking about  

Gambling is for other pools and casinos.

There's already a pool out there to attract small miners - with a stupid payout system that gives small miners the possibility to take from the large miners, and the large miners lose their block reward on the first block coz he can't code it properly
Oddly enough there's only one large miner on that pool - the guy who found the block that -ck threw away - yeah I've no idea what wetsuit is thinking

... attract small miners by skimming from the large miners ... i.e. try to send away the large miners ... and people who don't realise you're losing out.

Yeah not really my aim for this pool

[AerialGopher]

430%


Time to prepare the BTClock laxative!

Or shall we call it the BTCloxative ?

[A.Delaney]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

[Yrth]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

Awesome miner has a proxy function built in.

[clgrissom3]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

Awesome miner has a proxy function built in.

I was thinking the same thing; I thought I remembered that from a while back.

[Thrash]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

Awesome miner has a proxy function built in.

I was thinking the same thing; I thought I remembered that from a while back.

I use awesome miner even though I do not have that many miners. It is very handy. Allows you to manage pools and miners fairly easily.

[rifleman74]

Enough bitching, enough moaning, MORE DANCING AND CHICKEN!!!

MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

[A.Delaney]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

Awesome miner has a proxy function built in.

I was thinking the same thing; I thought I remembered that from a while back.

I use awesome miner even though I do not have that many miners. It is very handy. Allows you to manage pools and miners fairly easily.

Dang $1800. I’ll need a few more miners before I get that. 

[nazzer]

So whoever this cryptostarusa is must have like 1000 S9’s. How do you even put that many on the pool? Certainly you don’t have to switch each one individually to a different pool. You’d have Worker.001 all the way to Worker.1000. It would be pages long and take days. So how would you manage that many to direct them all at the pool?

There's apparently some pretty crappy tool available from Bitmain to update the settings of a bunch of miners.

He has a lot more than 10PHs of miners, but as makes a lot of sense, only a % are pointing here to reduce risk.

Sounds like that could be handy even if a guy had 20 miners.

Awesome miner has a proxy function built in.

I was thinking the same thing; I thought I remembered that from a while back.

I use awesome miner even though I do not have that many miners. It is very handy. Allows you to manage pools and miners fairly easily.

Dang $1800. I’ll need a few more miners before I get that. 

Pro is $85 and Premium is $170 ... a couple day's worth of mining for 10 Or 20 rigs ... if you're unlucky