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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2438 blocks  (Read 5352023 times)
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June 26, 2018, 09:38:29 PM
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Yeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh, block!

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June 26, 2018, 09:39:00 PM
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Time for a good old fashioned BLOCK PARTY! Cheesy

More chicken, more dancing, and more GETTING UP OUT OF YOUR SEAT PEEPS!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

It's the dancing and the chicken!

Mine on!!!

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June 26, 2018, 10:10:40 PM
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Block?

Yes, Block by bluelagoon! Cheesy

It's a BLOCK PARTY! Cheesy
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June 26, 2018, 11:03:21 PM
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Who's ready for a quick block?   I AM!


Chicken will be consumed, the dancing will commence, and mining on with kano-san continues.


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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June 27, 2018, 01:43:04 AM
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Who's ready for a quick block?   I AM!
Count me in!

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June 27, 2018, 03:58:57 AM
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Let's bet next one be within 50% or at the max 70%...fingers crossed Kiss
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June 27, 2018, 04:42:22 AM
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Thanks Blue!!! Cool
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June 27, 2018, 08:09:22 AM
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No party like a BTClock party. Dancing shoes are on  Smiley Smiley
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June 27, 2018, 03:36:31 PM
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I have 4 x $100.00 bitmain coupons expiring June 30 that I would let go, for Kano miners only. if anyone needs them PM me your bitmain ID, they are yours for free.
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June 27, 2018, 06:03:05 PM
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I have 4 x $100.00 bitmain coupons expiring June 30 that I would let go, for Kano miners only. if anyone needs them PM me your bitmain ID, they are yours for free.
I have 1 x $100 bitmain coupon expiring July 1st that I would let go, for anyone. Interested users can PM me your Bitmain ID, I'll send it along as gift. All you can do is leave a good trust rating/ merit as a return favor.
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June 27, 2018, 06:25:09 PM
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Enough about the coupons....it's time to crack this block!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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June 27, 2018, 07:00:03 PM
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Enough about the coupons....it's time to crack this block!


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

Here blocky blocky blocky here blocky blocky blocky
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June 27, 2018, 07:28:33 PM
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Finally got a replacement fan in from Canaan for an A741 that was down for 1 week so farm is now back to full 310+THs Smiley
Here block, here block!

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June 27, 2018, 09:02:47 PM
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Finally got a replacement fan in from Canaan for an A741 that was down for 1 week so farm is now back to full 310+THs Smiley
Here block, here block!
Welcome back to full hash!
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June 28, 2018, 03:29:35 AM
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Finally got a replacement fan in from Canaan for an A741 that was down for 1 week so farm is now back to full 310+THs Smiley
Here block, here block!
Welcome back to full hash!
Here's to you getting the next block! Hurry, please. Wink

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June 28, 2018, 09:57:53 AM
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Hi there,

I run about 50 S9's with profit switching using awesome miner. I am trying to wrap my head around PPLNS though. Is every share you commit to the pool paid out or are you only paid out if you are currently mining towards the pool when a block is found?

Also with regards to shifts. Does it matter what time length the miners spend on the pool? I.e. if they switch between 30 minutes or 1.5 hours?

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June 28, 2018, 11:14:00 AM
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I run about 50 S9's with profit switching using awesome miner. I am trying to wrap my head around PPLNS though. Is every share you commit to the pool paid out or are you only paid out if you are currently mining towards the pool when a block is found?

Also with regards to shifts. Does it matter what time length the miners spend on the pool? I.e. if they switch between 30 minutes or 1.5 hours?
Welcome! All work is paid--even if you stop mining, and we find more blocks within 500% of the network difficulty after you stop.

Edit: See here for a detailed explanation of the payout process: https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Edit 2: Due to the ramp up/down behavior of PPLNS, you'll hit full payouts within approximately 6 days at the current pool hashrate. However, as mentioned, you'll also continue to receive ramp down payouts for approximately 6 days after you stop mining.

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Last edit: June 28, 2018, 12:47:45 PM by kano
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Hi there,

I run about 50 S9's with profit switching using awesome miner. I am trying to wrap my head around PPLNS though. Is every share you commit to the pool paid out or are you only paid out if you are currently mining towards the pool when a block is found?

Also with regards to shifts. Does it matter what time length the miners spend on the pool? I.e. if they switch between 30 minutes or 1.5 hours?

Thanks
Any share submitted in the last 5Nd when we find a block, gets a reward.
You don't have to be mining at the time the block is found, only you have to have shares in the range before the block was found:
What this means is that (as stated on the page linked in the previous post) when we find a block, KDB counts back all shares submitted until it has counted the equivalent value of 5 'expected' blocks worth of shares.

So as diff is currently about 5 bazillion, when we find the next block, all the previous 25 bazillion worth of shares will be included in the reward.
This also means that each share gets about 1/5 of it's PPS value.
But since we include 25 bazillion each time a block is found, then on average each share gets rewarded 5 times so is expected to average to get 5/5 of it's PPS.

Of course if you want it more accurate, you should replace '5 Bazillion' with 5,077,499,034,879.0 and '25 Bazillion' with 25,387,495,174,395.0 Smiley
Of course there's no point saying  5 Trillion, since Trillion is not an SI unit, and it differs in some countries.
T in TH does NOT stand for 'Trillion' it stands for the SI unit 'Terra' meaning 10^12
So you could say something like: 5 and 25 TerraDiff worth of shares Smiley

Now if you are mining 50% of the time, what you will end up expecting to get is a reward for 50% of your hash rate, of course.
Also, like on any non-PPS pool, if you don't mine all the time, you will get higher variance than the normal pool variance.

Now one more thing to add - price switching is a fallacy.
You don't get the price at the time you switch, you get the price some time a day or more later when you finally get and convert the mined 'other' coin ... less the extra fees to convert that 'other' coin vs the price and fees to convert BTC

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June 28, 2018, 02:28:05 PM
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I run about 50 S9's with profit switching using awesome miner. I am trying to wrap my head around PPLNS though. Is every share you commit to the pool paid out or are you only paid out if you are currently mining towards the pool when a block is found?

Also with regards to shifts. Does it matter what time length the miners spend on the pool? I.e. if they switch between 30 minutes or 1.5 hours?
Welcome! All work is paid--even if you stop mining, and we find more blocks within 500% of the network difficulty after you stop.

Edit: See here for a detailed explanation of the payout process: https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Edit 2: Due to the ramp up/down behavior of PPLNS, you'll hit full payouts within approximately 6 days at the current pool hashrate. However, as mentioned, you'll also continue to receive ramp down payouts for approximately 6 days after you stop mining.


PPLNS = "After a block is found, payment is configured based on a maximum set number of shares instead of just distributing rewards based on the total number of shares during that round. If a user does not have any shares in the window of shares that are being rewarded, there will be no payment to the user. This window of accepted shares can pay out miners from past rounds even if they did not participate in the current round. The number of shares contained in a PPLS reward system vary based on the level of difficulty set to each block."

Thanks for the reply. So based on yours and the above definition is the window, the level of difficulty or the shift (of aprrox 50 mins)? And because of the current '5Nd' each share gets paid out roughly over 6 days currently. Could you post the calc for this?  "204.15PHs which means the 5Nd 'ramp' is roughly 6days 4hrs."
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June 28, 2018, 02:59:39 PM
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The window is 5 X difficulty.

I have not been active on the Bitcointalk in over a year and I see the conversation about PPLNS is still going strong.  Cheesy
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