CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[lawrencelyl]

I have ordered a gtx 950 and a gtx 980ti now. ROI in 1 year with the current prices

This meens that I can test and tweak my mod on almost all the available cards.

gtx 750
gtx 750ti
gtx 950
gtx 960
gtx 970
gtx 980
gtx 980ti

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL 

[sp_]

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

The titanx is too expensive. ROI in 2 years, and by then NVIDIA have probobly released new 16nm chips (pascal).

I ordered a 980ti gigabyte 3x oc card. It has 200Mz higher factory clock than the titanx on the gpu-core and should mine quark at around 30MHASH with my private miner.


BTC hash crashed, mining revenue has crashed..

30MHASH of quark will only give me $2.17 (0.030 *0.34 *212) a day, and less when I need to pay for the power  (250watt) The card costed $800 ROI without the powercost in 368 days.

[chrysophylax]

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

The titanx is too expensive. ROI in 2 years, and by then NVIDIA have probobly released new 16nm chips (pascal).

I ordered a 980ti gigabyte 3x oc card. It has 200Mz higher factory clock than the titanx on the gpu-core and should mine quark at around 30MHASH with my private miner.


BTC hash crashed, mining revenue has crashed..

30MHASH of quark will only give me $2.17 (0.030 *0.34 *212) a day, and less when I need to pay for the power  (250watt) The card costed $800 ROI without the powercost in 368 days.

time to get all the donations possible i think sp ...

when i get back into action - ill start the process on my end for more donations to you and the other devs ...

these days though - roi is impossible to calculate on any short or long term situation due to the horrid fluctuations in price ... so roi right now is not the same roi in 7 hours time ...

in any case - if the private miner can do those sorts of figures on those higher end cards - how does the private miner do on the 750ti cards? ...

#crysx

[bensam1231]

I have ordered a gtx 950 and a gtx 980ti now. ROI in 1 year with the current prices

This meens that I can test and tweak my mod on almost all the available cards.

gtx 750
gtx 750ti
gtx 950
gtx 960
gtx 970
gtx 980
gtx 980ti

No Titan X? What is this...


BTC will be back. It always comes back. If you know the right places to look you can see where the money is being shuffled around. I'd still suggest taking a look at Ethereum if you're bored... Maybe you can poke at Genoil.

[sp_]

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

The titanx is too expensive. ROI in 2 years, and by then NVIDIA have probobly released new 16nm chips (pascal).
I ordered a 980ti gigabyte 3x oc card. It has 200Mz higher factory clock than the titanx on the gpu-core and should mine quark at around 30MHASH with my private miner.
BTC hash crashed, mining revenue has crashed..
30MHASH of quark will only give me $2.17 (0.030 *0.34 *212) a day, and less when I need to pay for the power  (250watt) The card costed $800 ROI without the powercost in 368 days.

time to get all the donations possible i think sp ...
when i get back into action - ill start the process on my end for more donations to you and the other devs ...
these days though - roi is impossible to calculate on any short or long term situation due to the horrid fluctuations in price ... so roi right now is not the same roi in 7 hours time ...
in any case - if the private miner can do those sorts of figures on those higher end cards - how does the private miner do on the 750ti cards? ...
#crysx

7MHASH@quark on standard clocks 750ti windows x86.

I am selling off the rest of my AMD cards now and replacing with NVIDIA. 750ti/960/970. More money in building a big farm than selling kernals.

If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 1 card (if I have 100 cards)
If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 10 cards (if I have 1000 cards)

[Slava_K]

Commit 966 is slower on home rig by 300kh (960&2x980)
Pool side is slower 10-20% (spikes to 54MH, middle speed 30-35 MH)

[pokeytex]

Hiya SP - just checking in to see if there are going to be anymore new optimizations to the spreadcoin miner?  Is another donation needed?

I think I can squeze a few percent out of it. It's been a while since I looked at it. Donations are welcome, they motivate me.

Spreadcoin Miner Donation

Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 21 node(s)
Date: 8/25/2015 05:50
To: SP Donation - SPR Miner Vpir9UQWjDmajnC81eNS6nXVH2qAGos6Ma
Debit: -50.00 VTC
Net amount: -50.00 VTC
Transaction ID: 938e71c83bf43a9fe3e1bf11cb2c9507b14008298a0f3cbae8e3c7af0ca5b9fa

[sp_]

Commit 966 is slower on home rig by 300kh (960&2x980)

Can you test commit 965 is the performance lost here or in the 966?

[sp_]

Hiya SP - just checking in to see if there are going to be anymore new optimizations to the spreadcoin miner?  Is another donation needed?

I think I can squeze a few percent out of it. It's been a while since I looked at it. Donations are welcome, they motivate me.

Spreadcoin Miner Donation
Status: 0/unconfirmed, broadcast through 21 node(s)
Date: 8/25/2015 05:50
To: SP Donation - SPR Miner Vpir9UQWjDmajnC81eNS6nXVH2qAGos6Ma
Debit: -50.00 VTC
Net amount: -50.00 VTC
Transaction ID: 938e71c83bf43a9fe3e1bf11cb2c9507b14008298a0f3cbae8e3c7af0ca5b9fa

Thanks, I feel more motivated already

[Slava_K]

Commit 966 is slower on home rig by 300kh (960&2x980)

Can you test commit 965 is the performance lost here or in the 966?

Perfomance lost in 955 100kh (compared with commit 933), but pool side is not bad. 966 300kh lost, pool side go down 20% stable.
PS. 40 minutes on nicehash speed stable 40-50MH (my 49200 now in miner), 200 kh lower then 955.

[fenomenhaa]

I have ordered a gtx 950 and a gtx 980ti now. ROI in 1 year with the current prices

This meens that I can test and tweak my mod on almost all the available cards.

gtx 750
gtx 750ti
gtx 950
gtx 960
gtx 970
gtx 980
gtx 980ti

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

I wonder how gtx 950 performs? Pls share the results when u have a time.Maybe i have possiblity to buy some new cards and i'm thinking to buy some 950's.. )

[sp_]

Commit 966 is slower on home rig by 300kh (960&2x980)

Can you test commit 965 is the performance lost here or in the 966?

Perfomance lost in 955 100kh (compared with commit 933), but pool side is not bad. 966 300kh lost, pool side go down 20% stable.
PS. 40 minutes on nicehash speed stable 40-50MH (my 49200 now in miner), 200 kh lower then 955.

Are you mixing 955 with 965?

I think I will revert the 966 commit.

[Slava_K]

Commit 966 is slower on home rig by 300kh (960&2x980)

Can you test commit 965 is the performance lost here or in the 966?

Perfomance lost in 955 100kh (compared with commit 933), but pool side is not bad. 966 300kh lost, pool side go down 20% stable.
PS. 40 minutes on nicehash speed stable 40-50MH (my 49200 now in miner), 200 kh lower then 955.

Are you mixing 955 with 965?

I think I will revert the 966 commit.

Sorry, yes - my mistake. 965!

[sp_]

Could you test x11. I got bether results with 965 on x11.

(Reducing the instruction count but adding const memory access)

Actually, I should split all the x11 kernals from the quark kernals and tune them seperatly, because the performance is not always bether for both of them.

[Slava_K]

Could you test x11. I got bether results with 965 on x11.

(Reducing the instruction count but adding const memory access)

Actually, I should split all the x11 kernals from the quark kernals and tune them seperatly, because the performance is not always bether for both of them.

966 show +250kh on x11 for me. now testing 965
PS. Now on 966 quark +100 kh (49500). It`s very strange...

[sp_]

When you test, you should let the gpu's rest for a while. 5 mins before you start the test, and then run for 5 minutes. But small optimalizations are hard to test, so I usually just look at the instruction count. Less instructions are normally bether.

[heslo]

You mentioned adding support for cryptonight mining some time in the future, is this still on the cards? (pardon the pun :p)

Thanks for all your hard work

[chrysophylax]

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

The titanx is too expensive. ROI in 2 years, and by then NVIDIA have probobly released new 16nm chips (pascal).
I ordered a 980ti gigabyte 3x oc card. It has 200Mz higher factory clock than the titanx on the gpu-core and should mine quark at around 30MHASH with my private miner.
BTC hash crashed, mining revenue has crashed..
30MHASH of quark will only give me $2.17 (0.030 *0.34 *212) a day, and less when I need to pay for the power  (250watt) The card costed $800 ROI without the powercost in 368 days.

time to get all the donations possible i think sp ...
when i get back into action - ill start the process on my end for more donations to you and the other devs ...
these days though - roi is impossible to calculate on any short or long term situation due to the horrid fluctuations in price ... so roi right now is not the same roi in 7 hours time ...
in any case - if the private miner can do those sorts of figures on those higher end cards - how does the private miner do on the 750ti cards? ...
#crysx

7MHASH@quark on standard clocks 750ti windows x86.

I am selling off the rest of my AMD cards now and replacing with NVIDIA. 750ti/960/970. More money in building a big farm than selling kernals.

If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 1 card (if I have 100 cards)
If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 10 cards (if I have 1000 cards)

i have to admit it too - that growing a farm ( along with the growing costs ) seems to be the better way to go when it comes to doing anything on a coin level ... and im not just talking about 'profitability' in fiat ...

you have the issue that kernel design and optimization doesnt bring you enough fiat currency as opposed to building a larger farm to make more coin to trade across ...

i have been in the same boat for a long while now - which is why i dont look at it as anything but a way of making 'coin' - rather than 'money' ... and its a delayed satisfaction in terms of trading at a good rate to btc then to fiat ...

choosing the right coin is another issue also - not just the farm - which is why my investment is concentrated on the farm which mines the spread of coins ...

the flipside is - that the short term is a costly sum in fiat ... the long term is anyones guess ... either way its a gamble ... and one i never get over my head in ... ive always got into this with the one 'system' if you will ... NEVER invest more than you are willing to lose ... NEVER ...

the most precious of all this is the miner itself ... the software that drives all this ...

i want to be able to help with 'incentive' to continue development and financial gain to grow - as would most of us here that use the fruits of your ( and other devs ) labor ...

help us help you by giving us more ideas to bring this about ... i need ideas not just from my self - but also from the community and from the devs themselves that can benefit greatly from successful ideas to incentivize the development of opensource to the level that it can not be outperformed very easily ...

what would your ideal way be to incentivize the devs to continue? ... what would be the practical way? ... what can the community and i do to help the devs? ...

just donate? ... buy you equipment? ... or is there more that we as a community can do to help? ...

im back in the office on thursday - im just too damn sick to move around too much at the moment ... so home and bed it is for me ... but this down time has given me thought time - and there must be something more than just a few donations to help you devs produce better optimizations - that in turn help us miners ...

call me sympathetic - call me imaginative - call me sick with delirium ... this 'free' time on my hands has got me thinking a great deal about how little or how much we can all work together ... for the benefit of one another and not a select few ...

ill probably read this back tomorrow and shirk at what ive written but - im all ears with your ideas sp and djm34 and pallas and every other dev that has put a great deal of work into this community ...

im all ears - and also off to bed ...

#crysx

[lawrencelyl]

I have been thinking why is that 64-bit binary hashing slower than 32-bit binary.
Tried to tweak around the CUDA C/C++ configuration properties but still having hard time to catch up with 32-bit binary - trailing 200kH/s.

[bensam1231]

You almost have the whole Maxwell family!! What about Titan X? LoL  

The titanx is too expensive. ROI in 2 years, and by then NVIDIA have probobly released new 16nm chips (pascal).
I ordered a 980ti gigabyte 3x oc card. It has 200Mz higher factory clock than the titanx on the gpu-core and should mine quark at around 30MHASH with my private miner.
BTC hash crashed, mining revenue has crashed..
30MHASH of quark will only give me $2.17 (0.030 *0.34 *212) a day, and less when I need to pay for the power  (250watt) The card costed $800 ROI without the powercost in 368 days.

time to get all the donations possible i think sp ...
when i get back into action - ill start the process on my end for more donations to you and the other devs ...
these days though - roi is impossible to calculate on any short or long term situation due to the horrid fluctuations in price ... so roi right now is not the same roi in 7 hours time ...
in any case - if the private miner can do those sorts of figures on those higher end cards - how does the private miner do on the 750ti cards? ...
#crysx

7MHASH@quark on standard clocks 750ti windows x86.

I am selling off the rest of my AMD cards now and replacing with NVIDIA. 750ti/960/970. More money in building a big farm than selling kernals.

If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 1 card (if I have 100 cards)
If I optimize 1% and keep it private I gain 10 cards (if I have 1000 cards)

i have to admit it too - that growing a farm ( along with the growing costs ) seems to be the better way to go when it comes to doing anything on a coin level ... and im not just talking about 'profitability' in fiat ...

you have the issue that kernel design and optimization doesnt bring you enough fiat currency as opposed to building a larger farm to make more coin to trade across ...

i have been in the same boat for a long while now - which is why i dont look at it as anything but a way of making 'coin' - rather than 'money' ... and its a delayed satisfaction in terms of trading at a good rate to btc then to fiat ...

choosing the right coin is another issue also - not just the farm - which is why my investment is concentrated on the farm which mines the spread of coins ...

the flipside is - that the short term is a costly sum in fiat ... the long term is anyones guess ... either way its a gamble ... and one i never get over my head in ... ive always got into this with the one 'system' if you will ... NEVER invest more than you are willing to lose ... NEVER ...

I disagree, there is no ROI on developing software unless you consider your time. Ideal solution would be designing your own private kernel and then mine with it, that's assuming no one else can come along and top your rates, which effectively nullifies your time you spent developing your kernels. There is also investment in hardware. Putting aside ROI, you need to raise capital for it.

Big companies do everything in house, but we aren't big companies so things get split off because it's not lucrative to try and do everything (poorly) at once.

That aside, I believe the most money is in the exchanges. If you can design a good and well designed exchange and/or pool, it'll net you a decent amount of profit when people start to use you. I haven't actually seen a pool that's a exchange for instance. I think there is definitely still room for innovation here. Pool, exchange, and hashrate rental service all in one. People like when everything is all in one spot... it's very convenient.

As long as you keep things private though, it doesn't change that much for the average user. I don't think trying to get people in your BCT thread to donate is the equivalent of selling software either. As I explained months ago, displaying a product is probably a good place to start and a company could be still formed around this.

Axiom came along and the GPU miner was short lived, there is plenty of room for improvement in XMR. Ethereum looks like it's going to be around awhile and the miner definitely could be improved. Neoscrypt could also be improved and X11 you guys talked about it not having been touched in quite a long time. There is plenty of room for improvement. That's just in the algos, there is also interface and features...


Also, don't sell your AMD cards. Mine Ethereum with them. They're much better at mining then Nvidia cards. I'd highly suggest looking at them before booting them to the curb.