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Author Topic: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker  (Read 1651675 times)
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February 05, 2013, 05:47:32 PM
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They could also be trying to intimidate the price down so that they can increase their position at a better price. Dumping into this market has been risky lately and may result in a net loss for them. The question is, are they walls of benevolence or walls of intimidation?

If the intent was to induce selling panic, no reason to pull the walls once the price started to fall below 20.00. The panic was just starting to form at this point, the best action to boost it was to move walls closer. Instead, the walls were pulled. So I stand by my analysis.
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February 05, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
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They could also be trying to intimidate the price down so that they can increase their position at a better price. Dumping into this market has been risky lately and may result in a net loss for them. The question is, are they walls of benevolence or walls of intimidation?

If the intent was to induce selling panic, no reason to pull the walls once the price started to fall below 20.00. The panic was just starting to form at this point, the best action to boost it was to move walls closer. Instead, the walls were pulled. So I stand by my analysis.

Interesting, I didn't see that happen, I thought the walls disappeared from buying pressure.
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February 05, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
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I'm with you.

I thought they disappeared on the spike to $20.70ish
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February 05, 2013, 06:02:20 PM
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I'm with you.

I thought they disappeared on the spike to $20.70ish

The wall disappeared yesterday on the spike down to 19.xx.
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February 05, 2013, 06:10:22 PM
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Why the manipulation theories?

Occam's razor says it is someone who has acquired a lot of BTC and wants to to sell, for whatever reason, at $21.00
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February 05, 2013, 06:13:23 PM
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Why the manipulation theories?

Occam's razor says it is someone who has acquired a lot of BTC and wants to to sell, for whatever reason, at $21.00


Either way, when we get past $21 we go to $30  Cheesy
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February 05, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
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the number of pages on this thread is obnoxious! OP, why don't you create a new "2013" thread?

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February 05, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
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Why the manipulation theories?

Occam's razor says it is someone who has acquired a lot of BTC and wants to to sell, for whatever reason, at $21.00


Either way, when we get past $21 we go to $30  Cheesy

Agreed. And it's amazing to see how the market is less and less impressed by scare tactics (for now at least) Cheesy
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February 05, 2013, 06:21:13 PM
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Why the manipulation theories?

Occam's razor says it is someone who has acquired a lot of BTC and wants to to sell, for whatever reason, at $21.00


The reason is that no one is stupid enough to think they will sell that much at a single price. They know a wall that size stops the market rising, or falling, near instantly, just like everyone else knows it. In all the time BTC has been around with these super 40k+ BTC walls, they are never eaten into in a significant way. If they really wanted to sell they would spread it out over a range, or dump in smaller chunks that don't crash the market.
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February 05, 2013, 06:29:21 PM
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Why the manipulation theories?

Occam's razor says it is someone who has acquired a lot of BTC and wants to to sell, for whatever reason, at $21.00


The reason is that no one is stupid enough to think they will sell that much at a single price. They know a wall that size stops the market rising, or falling, near instantly, just like everyone else knows it. In all the time BTC has been around with these super 40k+ BTC walls, they are never eaten into in a significant way. If they really wanted to sell they would spread it out over a range, or dump in smaller chunks that don't crash the market.

Not everyone knows that "fact". At least I have to admit I didn't, so I guess I am stupid by your definition.

What if it is the Avalon guys? They have better things to do than study the BTC market. From what I have read they believe in Bitcoin and have time to wait until BTC passes through $21.00
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February 05, 2013, 06:31:04 PM
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What the fuck is that wall guy trying to do?

I don't know, but someone should buy it all up.

Is Loaded still around?


not my wall.

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February 05, 2013, 06:34:17 PM
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What the fuck is that wall guy trying to do?

I don't know, but someone should buy it all up.

Is Loaded still around?


not my wall.

No we know that, your stash is still where it should be  Wink

I was just wondering if you had another 1M USD under your pillow so you could buy up this annoying wall at $21.00 for us.

Thanks a lot  Smiley


Edit: actually you only need about 800K so you have 200K left you could spend on Litecoin
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February 05, 2013, 06:38:19 PM
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What the fuck is that wall guy trying to do?

I don't know, but someone should buy it all up.

Is Loaded still around?


not my wall.

No we know that, your stash is still where it should be  Wink

I was just wondering if you had another 1M USD under your pillow so you could buy up this annoying wall at $21.00 for us.

Thanks a lot  Smiley

what are you thinking 
"clearly if you buy this wall their will be NO MORE bitcoins to be bought on the market, price is sure to rocket to 100$"
Huh

lol, you bulls are delusional!

Last chance to sell above 20$  Cool

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February 05, 2013, 06:43:09 PM
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This could lead to stability instead of a panic. Manipulators should be proud.

if bitcoin stabilizes at 20 for months, like it did at 5, i might reconsider my position ...


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February 05, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
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Last chance to sell above 20$  Cool

Game is over. People have figured you out.

Right now everyone knows that you are calling for the exact opposite of what you're preaching...  Smiley

You're gonna have to change your tactics (hint: get bullish and I will start selling)
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February 05, 2013, 06:54:10 PM
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What the fuck is that wall guy trying to do?

I don't know, but someone should buy it all up.

Is Loaded still around?


not my wall.

No we know that, your stash is still where it should be  Wink

I was just wondering if you had another 1M USD under your pillow so you could buy up this annoying wall at $21.00 for us.

Thanks a lot  Smiley


Edit: actually you only need about 800K so you have 200K left you could spend on Litecoin


You greatly underestimate my stash.

I only trade when there is a clear profit opportunity.

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February 05, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
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Last chance to sell above 20$  Cool

Game is over. People have figured you out.

Right now everyone knows that you are calling for the exact opposite of what you're preaching...  Smiley

You're gonna have to change your tactics (hint: get bullish and I will start selling)


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After careful consideration, i have concluded that bitcoins potential is HUGE, and it has become clear with resent developments that we are in fact headed toward mainstream adoption, it is no longer a matter of if but when!
this is why i have recently bought back my bitcoins at a loss, and am now sending my life savings to the exchange.
at this point it is clear that their is no risk at all, bitcoins value is sure to rise to new highs very soon.

 Cool

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February 05, 2013, 06:57:31 PM
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I only trade when there is a clear profit opportunity.
1. Buy for us on 21
2. Price increase to 30
3. Profit!
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February 05, 2013, 07:01:31 PM
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What the fuck is that wall guy trying to do?

I don't know, but someone should buy it all up.

Is Loaded still around?


not my wall.

No we know that, your stash is still where it should be  Wink

I was just wondering if you had another 1M USD under your pillow so you could buy up this annoying wall at $21.00 for us.

Thanks a lot  Smiley


Edit: actually you only need about 800K so you have 200K left you could spend on Litecoin


You greatly underestimate my stash.

I only trade when there is a clear profit opportunity.

No more single digits? tehh


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February 05, 2013, 07:03:29 PM
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Last chance to sell above 20$  Cool

Game is over. People have figured you out.

Right now everyone knows that you are calling for the exact opposite of what you're preaching...  Smiley

You're gonna have to change your tactics (hint: get bullish and I will start selling)


 Roll Eyes

After careful consideration, i have concluded that bitcoins potential is HUGE, and it has become clear with resent developments that we are in fact headed toward mainstream adoption, it is no longer a matter of if but when!
this is why i have recently bought back my bitcoins at a loss, and am now sending my life savings to the exchange.
at this point it is clear that their is no risk at all, bitcoins value is sure to rise to new highs very soon.

 Cool

Wow expect the next dump to be huge. This will be me selling all my BTC   Cheesy
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